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[QUOTE]Originally posted by LEDAMA: [QB] @ clyde winters- [QUOTE]4 Icon 1 posted 15 September, 2014 06:35 AM Profile for Clyde Winters Author's Homepage Send New Private Message Edit/Delete Post Reply With Quote quote:Originally posted by LEDAMA: @ clyde winters - quote:It is possible that after the Mande and Dravidians entered Central Asia and India they may have took Zebu cattle back to Africa. ARE YOU SERIOUS [Big Grin] [Big Grin] ,let me laugh hahahahaha...this is the most ignorant thing i have ever heard,no offence brother clyde. Let me get this straight,the mande together with dravidians,migrated out of africa,went to mesopotamia,started sumerian civilisation,then came back to africa with zebu cattle,left them at the hands of nilotes,then dravidians returned to mesopotamia,apparently leaving the mande in africa,who willingly entrusted all the zebu cattle at the hands of nilotes and bantu fulani.makes sense(sarcasm). DEBUNKED; 1)DRAVIDIANS HAVE NEVER BEEN TO AFRICA.NO DNA EVIDENCE. 2)IN AFRICA ONLY THE NILOTES AND BANTU FULANI TRADITIONALLY OWNED ZEBU CATTLE,THE MANDE NEVER OWNED ZEBUS TRADITIONALLY,THE DRAVIDIANS OWNED ZEBUS BECAUSE THEY REPRESENT THE NILOTES THAT NEVER MADE IT TO AFRICA. LEDAMA you don't know what you're talking about. The Dravidians are of African origin. They belonged to the Maa civilization. Archaeological and genetic evidence illustrate that the Dravidians came from Africa. The Dravidians and Mande began to migrate out of Africa by 2800BC. They were part of the C-Group. They first settled in Iran and from here expanded into Central Asia and the Indus Valley. B.B. Lal ("The Only Asian expedition in threatened Nubia:Work by an Indian Mission at Afyeh and Tumas", The Illustrated London Times , 20 April 1963) and Indian Egyptologist has shown conclusively that the Dravidians originated in the Saharan area 5000 years ago. He claims they came from Kush, in the Fertile African Crescent and were related to the C-Group people who founded the Kerma dynasty in the 3rd millennium B.C. (Lal 1963) The Dravidians used a common black-and-red pottery, which spread from Nubia, through modern Ethiopia, Arabia, Iran into India as a result of the Proto-Saharan dispersal. B.B. Lal (1963) a leading Indian archaeologist in India has observed that the black and red ware (BRW) dating to the Kerma dynasty of Nubia, is related to the Dravidian megalithic pottery. Singh (1982) believes that this pottery radiated from Nubia to India. This pottery along with wavy-line pottery is associated with the Saharo-Sudanese pottery tradition of ancient Africa . I call these people the Proto Saharans. I discuss their history here: http://olmec98.net/Fertile1.pdf Aravaanan (1980) has written extensively on the African and Dravidian relations. He has illustrated that the Africans and Dravidian share many physical similarities including the dolichocephalic indexes (Aravaanan 1980,pp.62-263; Raceand History.com,2006), platyrrhine nasal index (Aravaanan 1980,pp.25-27), stature (31-32) and blood type (Aravaanan 1980,34-35; RaceandHistory.com,2006). Aravaanan (1980,p.40) also presented much evidence for analogous African and Dravidian cultural features including the chipping of incisor teeth and the use of the lost wax process to make bronze works of arts (Aravaanan 1980,p.41). There are also similarities between the Dravidian and African religions. For example, both groups held a common interest in the cult of the Serpent and believed in a Supreme God, who lived in a place of peace and tranquility ( Thundy, p.87; J.T. Cornelius,"Are Dravidians Dynastic Egyptians", Trans. of the Archaeological Society of South India 1951-1957, pp.90-117; and U.P. Upadhyaya, "Dravidian and Negro-African", International Journal of Dravidian Linguistics 5, no.1) . There are also affinities between the names of many gods including Amun/Amma and Murugan . Murugan the Dravidian god of the mountains parallels a common god in East Africa worshipped by 25 ethnic groups is called Murungu, the god who resides in the mountains . Up until the South Indian megalithic period the Dravidians continued to use black-and-red ware and Libyco-Berber/Indus Valley writing. Under the influence of the Axumite writing the script changed into what it is today. The architecture of the Dravidians is an ornamented pyramid with statues and other featured added within the construction of the pyramid. [/QUOTE]The dravidians are nilotic branch,that is why they were very tall and very black,except the west asian straight hair phenotype.but their culture is basically NILOTIC.BRW(black and red earthen ware is nilotic pottery esp western and eastern nilotes,but BRW with the wavy dotted line known as NDERIT WARE belongs to southern nilotes kalenjin,datooga and omotik).Maa-speakers or speakers of maa language are maasai,samburu,lotuko,njemps(illchamus),rendille(formerly a somali clan assimilated into masai,REER-NDILLE in somali means 'house of ndille).Are you saying dravidians are related to maasai maa-speakers? chipping of incisor teeth is a nilotic trait not bantu. There are no affinities between the names of dravidian deities and african.MURUGAN does not equal MURUNGU,the word murungu is a kikuyu and Ameru corruption of the bantu supreme god MULUNGU. [QUOTE]The Dravidians were Kushites. The Kushites were predominately Niger-Congo speakers. The hundreds of words associated with this finding support a genetic relationship between Niger-Congo and Dravidian languages. [/QUOTE]yes,THE DRAVIDIANS WERE KUSHITES(NILOTES). NO:The kushites were and are predomintally NILO-SAHARAN SPEAKERS.There is also a genetic relationship between nilotic and bantu,have you ever made that comparison?oh i forgot the only african language you know is MANDE. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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