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[QUOTE]Originally posted by the lioness,: [QB] ^^ The voice of reason What Troll Patrol does which is stupid he acts like I'm saying that there were no blacks in the Roman empire and this after I have have even posted some. But the most stupid thing he does is when Ironlion takes the fact that there was an African presence and then exaggerates extremely, puts numerous other pictures of swarthy Mediterranean European people, an example, the Emperor Constantine who he says was Ethiopian, others he says are Congolese, Troll Patrol won't say anything. He cant correct the child like brother because he's too worried about what I'm saying in the thread. He turns his back on a lot of faulty scholarship and bizarre theories on Egyptsearch so the quality goes down. Legitimate scholarship gets mixed with silliness and snow bunny fixation. What if I were to ask "what Africans contributed to the civilization of ancient Rome?" others than some being there? Can Troll Patrol produce any names mentioned in Roman texts of African who contributed to Roman civilization? Severus (sons Caracalla) was half Phoenician and half Italian. His contribution was to invaded all over the place including taking over the capital of the Garments. I already mentioned Tiro, an African writer, former slave. Africans were subjects of Rome. Romans have thousands of text records and sometimes they mention Africans. Troll Patrol can you gives us a re-cap, please give us a list of 5 names of Africans who made contributions to Roman civilization. Ironlion says having sex with white women is a contribution but I don't know if we can consider that culture. Let's stop playing games with pictures with no names or biographies. Troll Patrol give us a list of 5 or ten indigenous Africans who made significant contributions to African civilization. There was also Marcus Cornelius Fronto (c. 100–170), Roman grammarian, rhetorician and advocate, was born in the Berber city Cirta in Numidia. Fronto was born a Roman citizen c. 95 in the Numidian capital Cirta. He described himself as "a Libyan of the Libyan Nomades."Educated at Rome, he soon gained such renown as an advocate and orator as to be reckoned inferior only to Cicero. He amassed a large fortune, erected magnificent buildings and purchased the famous gardens of Maecenas. Antoninus Pius, hearing of his fame, appointed him tutor to his adopted sons Marcus Aurelius and Lucius Verus. [IMG]http://historyofinformation.com/images/fronto.jpg[/IMG] ^^^ He said he was "a Libyan of the Libyan Nomades." Does this mean we should regard him as a black man? I don't know. It seems to me that if he was the Romans would have used some word like Aethiops or Niger. The Romans often, not always used the term Aethiop negatively. And the Romans were big slave masters (slavery is good if they don't discriminate racially-yeah right) http://scholar.lib.vt.edu/ejournals/ElAnt/V1N4/thompson.html Roman Perception of Blacks Lloyd Thompson, Department of Classics, University of Ibadan Ibadan, Nigeria. [i]The texts which reveal a distaste for the black phenotype in no way permit us to operate on the assumption that black-white social relations in the Roman world (or in any other predominantly 'white' social space) were (or are) necessarily governed by familiar Western ideological constraints, or that blacks in Roman society (who were evidently slaves for the most part (37) ) 'naturally' constituted a community. The notion of a 'black community' will easily intrude itself upon minds unreleased from the tyranny of modern Western preconceptions (especially when one has been socialized into seeing as 'natural' a partition of society into 'communities' of 'Blacks, Asians, Hispanics, and Whites of every kind'(38) ). The notion of a 'black community' in Roman social space is part and parcel of the same mind-set that prompts misguided questions about the group-status of the black 'race' in Roman society. It is otherwise quite impossible to envisage a small black population constituting a community in social conditions such as those of ancient Rome. In the first place, blacks in Roman society were at all times largely slave-immigrants or progeny of such immigrants; secondly, their numbers were always small; thirdly, black newcomers had a variety of cultural and ethnic backgrounds and (being largely slaves) were dispersed in widely separate localities; fourthly, every Roman slave had to live as part of a predominantly white familia of widely different individual national origins; finally, the descendants of blacks in the Roman world were much more often than not 'swarthy' or 'white' people in the Roman perceptual context.[/i] Troll Patrol, give us a recap, it should be easy. I'm just asking for 5-10 names of Africans, not just people who were born in Africa but people who wee certain indigenous Africans who made major contributions to Roman civilization. With all the Roman text out there type should be able find some clear indigenous Africans being mentioned. And by contribution I mean not swarthy Southern Italians fuvking light skinned chicks in Pompeii whore houses. Something more intellectual. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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