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[QUOTE]Originally posted by melchior7: [QB] [b] Hey moron! Apparently you haven't heard that there is no such thing as "caucasian" phenotype. Though if by "caucasian" you mean European judging by those pics, apparently you don't know much about the pedigree of the Saudi royal families who are widely known to have saqaliba (Slavic slave) concubine ancestry.[/b] Caucasian pehenotype isn't limited to Europeans you numbskull. What about Kurds, Iranians, Northern Indians? [IMG]http://legacy.lakeforest.edu/images/userImages/beller/Page_6593/khatami_375.jpg[/IMG] Iranian Woman. [IMG]http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_E0Td50mfKP0/SRmvfLWODqI/AAAAAAAAAQg/q9y8cUtKwyM/s400/Maral,+a+young+Iranian+female+singer+during+a+studio+recoding+on+April+19,+2006+in+Tehran.+In+Iran,+women+are+not+allowed+to+sing+publicly.JPG[/IMG] [IMG]http://b.imagehost.org/0483/iranian_women_1.jpg[/IMG] Caucasisn features are all over Western Asia. All you can do is lie and make believe. [b] The argument that single family dwellings represent patriarchal systems but ‘long house’ or large clan dwellings represent matriarchal or matrix ones is not fully valid and outdated. For example, there is historical evidence that early Semitic nomads who were matrilineal still lived in single family tents such as early Canaanites, Aramaeans, and even some early Arab tribes[/b] That is not the only basis for their conclusions ignoramus. [b]Now it all makes sense!! You speak of a “politically correct trend to ignore Asiatic influence”, yet the trend is actually the opposite—to ignore African influence and emphasize an Asiatic one, and nowhere is this clearer than in your very source which is just one of various academic factions by some Jews to claim a Jewish origin for early civilizations in the so-called ‘Near East’ including Egypt![/b] Oh really?? Read it again. "The tools, the pottery, and the method of burial of the earlier Omari periods all resembled those of southwestern Asia and those of the other Asiatic villages to the north. Archaeologists took note of this distinct culture by referring to it as the "Deltic Tradition." [b]Again NO evidence that the Delta people themselves were from Asia, and I noticed you ignored the source I cited showing skeletal that they are a continuation of Africans NOT Asians.[/b] Sigh..please tell me what great barrier sperated Egyptians from palestine and the Levant? You don't even seem to understand that the term Asian and Afrcan is only relative here. Did not many folks in Palestine etc descend from the E carrying African Natufians?? Would palestinian skeletons be so vastly different then? Your sour says...[i]the very small sample populations available from northern Egypt[/i] ..then goes on to say this. ..[i]The limb-length proportions of males from the Egyptian sites group them with Africans rather than with Europeans[/i] Suddlenly the author jumps from Palestinians to Europeans. So who is he really comparing the Egyptians to? What is his real aganda. Most sudies will show differences in between Lower and Upper Egyptians with the the Latter being more tropically adapted closer to Nubians and the former much less so. Thats a fact. [b]Lower Egypt is right next to Upper Egypt with NOTHING separating them. In fact, Thebes is about as close to the Sudanese border as it is to the Delta. So what exactly makes the Lower Egyptians non-black when the Upper Egyptians are??[/b] Damn you are dumb. To you have any idea how large Egypt is. Only a serious simpleton would say that Lower Egypt is right next to Upper Egypt. Lol! :rolleyes: [b]Pray tell what source of ancient Lower or Delta Egyptian autosomal DNA supports your claims?? I have heard of non extracted thus far, though we have evidence of their very skeletons [/b] I'll do you one better. How about aDNA from further South in Egypt?? "Attempts to extract ancient DNA or aDNA from Ancient Egyptian remains have yielded mainly Eurasian DNA types from the Dakleh Oasis cemetery site (from Southern Egypt), and they show a considerable increase in the amount of sub Saharan mitchondrial DNA over the past 2,000 years, suggesting that within this timeframe there was more migration from Sub-Saharan Africa to the Nile Valley than from Eurasia to the latter. One successful study was performed on ancient mummies of the 12th Dynasty, by Paabo and Di Rienzo, which identified multiple lines of descent, a minority of which originated in sub-Saharan Africa." Paabo, S., and A. Di Rienzo, A molecular approach to the study of Egyptian history. In Biological Anthropology and the Study of Ancient Egypt. V. Davies and R. Walker, eds. pp. 86-90. London: British Museum Press. 1993 How many more nails would you like for your coffin? :D Oh and I love your Black Egyptian with the Afro. How typical he must have been when we know from mummies that most Egyptians had staright to wavy hair with aquiline noses. ;) [b]Actually this picture shows a Persian, specifically Elamite, warrior. The Elamites were the indigenous people of Iran and founders of civilization there prior to Indo-European speaking Persians. This comes to show that even Eurasians come in black looks, which again throws a monkey wrench in the Malcontent's protests of "Eurasian" as if the label is a proxy for non-black.[/b] Yeah right a Persian with a straight nose and [b]Blues eyes[/b]. Brilliant! :rolleyes: [/QB][/QUOTE]
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