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[QUOTE]Originally posted by the lioness: [QB] [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by malcontent7: [qb] Again they were initially called Moros in Spain because of where they came from ( Mauretania) not because of what they looked like. Most the Berbers who crossed over into Spain were light skinned. Tarik himself was described as having red hair and an early depiction shows him to be simply a tawny Berber. [IMG]http://www.science-et-vie.net/img/illustrations/T/tariq-ibn-ziyad.jpg[/IMG] [/qb][/QUOTE] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Djehuti: Didn't you post this picture before last year or so only to have it refuted as NOT a Medieval portrait but a picture made in MODERN times by someone out of pure imagination?? [/qb][/QUOTE]no such refutation was made There are three different accounts of Tariq ibn Ziyad origins given by Arabic histories. 1) He was a Persian from Hamadan. 2) He was an Arab of the Sadf tribe. 3) He was a Berber from North Africa. The 13th-century historian Ibn Idhari states he was from the Ulhasa (French: Oulhaça) tribe. the Ulhasa originate from a branch of the Nefzaouas people and part of the Zeneta . According to Ibn Khaldun, the Ulhasa could be found at that time on both sides of the Tafna river in Tlemcen, Algeria. Most historians, Arab and Spanish, seem to agree that he was a slave of the emir of Ifriqiya (North Africa), Musa bin Nusayr, who gave him his freedom and appointed him a general in his army. But his descendants centuries later denied he had ever been Musa's slave. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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