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Genomic Ancestry of North Africans Supports Back-to-Africa Migrations Brenna M. Henn
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Son of Ra: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by the lioness,: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Son of Ra: What about this part? "The indigenous North African ancestry may have been more common in Berber populations and appears most closely related to populations outside of Africa, but divergence between Maghrebi peoples and Near Eastern/Europeans likely precedes the Holocene (>12,000 ya)." ^^^What they are saying is since before the Holocene Period, the general overall population of North Africa has remained basically unchanged. Yet we know that before the Holocene that North Africans did not look like modern day North Africans...Especially 30k years ago, with proof with Nazlet Khater Man. [/QUOTE]the gap between 30K and 12k is 18K [QUOTE]Originally posted by Son of Ra: What do they mean with recent Sub Saharan ancestry? The term Sub Saharan itself is a flawed term, since Africans were traveling back and forth. They seem to be trying to separate North Africa from Africa. I know that the suppose Sub Saharan Africans were enslaved in North Africa, but the most ancient MtDNA Hg in Tunisia is 'sub Saharan' African L3. Also in the study they seem to only focus on the coastal parts of North Africa. [/qb][/QUOTE]The region they were studying is the Maghreb region including the Atlas Mountains and the coastal plains of Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, and Libya, over 90% of the population of these countries lives near the coast. Their DNA is different from the Sahelains who are much more West African in ancestry. Look at the two photos of groups of protesters in Tunia a few posts back. many of the average Tunisans look mulatto. From another article Amun-Ra posted you've seen before. Note each haplogroup and the percentages [QUOTE]Originally posted by Amun-Ra The Ultimate[ [IMG]http://i1079.photobucket.com/albums/w513/Amunratheultimate/Misc/FrequenciesoftheYchromosomehaplogroupsinfiveBerberpopulationsDugoujon2009.jpg[/IMG] [URL=http://www.ephotobay.com/share/picture-33-18.html] [IMG]http://www.ephotobay.com/image/picture-33-18.png[/IMG][/URL] [/QUOTE]E-M81 is the most common Y-chromosome haplogroup in the Maghreb, dominated by its subclade E-M183. It is thought to have originated in the area of North Africa 5,600 years ago. This haplogroup reaches a mean frequency of 42% in North Africa, decreasing in frequency from approximately 80% or more in some Moroccan Berber populations, including Saharawis, to approximately 10% to the east of this range in Egypt. Because of its prevalence among these groups and also others such as Mozabite, Middle Atlas, Kabyle and other Berber groups, it is sometimes referred to as a genetic "Berber marker". [/QB][/QUOTE]But still the coastal region is not all of North Africa. And back then I doubt that was the region of North Africa that was mostly populated. There wasn't always a Sahara desert. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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