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[QUOTE]Originally posted by the lioness,: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by xyyman: [QB] That is why you mess with you Lioness. Maybe I missed it ...are you stating that this chrat represents only Tunisians from Djerba Island? That the researchers chose to sample ONLY the people from Djerba Island? [/QUOTE]There are many more berbers in Morocco, Algeria and Libya. In Tunisia they are mainly on Djerba island along with some Jews Arabs and Catholics., total pop 140,000. There are also berbers in small villages in Chenini-Douret, Guellala and Tozeur. Poulation of Tunisia is 10.6 mill The total berber population is 90-500,000 Tunisians in general have a mixture of Arab and berber ancestry. Do you know anything about the history of Tunisia? The Arabs were not the first foreigners At it's height Carthage had 500,000 people. The Phoenicians marched into Tunisia around 1100 BC, establishing their capital, Carthage (just north of today’s Tunis), as the main power in the western Mediterranean by the 6th century. The emerging Roman Empire was not happy with these events, and 128 years of Punic Wars ensued. The legendary general of Carthage, Hannibal, nearly conquered the Romans after his invasion of Italy in 216 BC, but the Romans finally won, razed Carthage, sold its population for slaves and then re-created it as a Roman city in 44 BC. Roman Tunisia boomed, creating the temple-decked city of Dougga and the extravagant El Jem colosseum. The Roman decline and fall in the 5th century was followed by the rampaging Vandals, who saw their opportunity and captured Carthage in 439. Unhappy with the nihilistic rule of the Vandals, the local Berber population formed small kingdoms and rebelled, but both groups were conquered, and the Vandals ousted by the approaching Byzantines in 533. In the 7th century the Arabs arrived from the east, bringing Islam with them. Despite continuous Berber belligerence, the Arabs ruled Tunisia until the 16th century, leaving behind the strongest ongoing cultural impact of all of Tunisia’s invaders. Stuck between the Spanish Reconquistas and the powerful Ottoman empire, Tunisia became an outpost of the Ottomans until France began to gain ground in the region during the 19th century. Establishing their rule in 1881, the French proceeded to spend the next 50 years attempting to transform Tunisia into a European-style nation. __________________________________________ The amount of berber the average Tuniaian has is debatable. This thread is about the Maghreb in general. Therfore you should find articles on Tunisian genetics that aren't specific to berbers This discussion on Mozabites relates to a classis lioness thread entitled Mozabite Berbers are 80% African, doc says (doc = Doctoris Scientia, doc had saod how Tishkoff's article: The Genetic Structure and History of Africans and African Americans > show Mozabites are 80% African. note: I wrote the first post but the pictures in it came from Doctoris Scientia who had also discussed the topic on anthroscape) http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=006835 and in this thread a similar dispute as to what blue means in the pie charts and xyyman proposes modern Maghrebians are more African than modern Egyptians [QUOTE]Originally posted by beyoku ozabite are somewhat inbred BUT when right along with other North African groups they are not inbred to the first cousin level to create their own artificial cluster. THe Mozabite were usually on par with Maghreb ancestry as southern Moroccans and Saharawi - This is data that has been proven PRIOR to the introduction of the Tunisian data set. [/QUOTE]this concept about "inbredness" thus producing an " artificial cluster" would need to be explained. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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