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Genomic Ancestry of North Africans Supports Back-to-Africa Migrations Brenna M. Henn
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by beyoku: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by xyyman: [qb] You haven't read enough and displayed the type of intelectual prowess for me spending so much time. You have a knack for stating the obvious and ...missing the obvious. Of course each group represent a collection of individuals within the said population. The line represent an average/mode/median of the group ie some values are above some below for each K. Here is R-V88 in the Levant. And find another hobby. This is not working for you. More on ESR [QUOTE]Originally posted by beyoku: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by xyyman: [qb] Great post Dr. Winters. Nice leads to followup on. @Beyoku.. Give it up man. Take your lumps and call it a day. [/qb][/QUOTE] [QUOTE] You are ignoring nearly 40-50% of the Bedouin sample by drawing that line. [b]The individual Bedouin men OVER that line EXCEED the % of Blue component found in North Africans. that is Strike one.[/b] [/QUOTE]Do you NOT have eyes to see that the Bolded portion of my statement is factually correct at K=5-8? :eek: [/qb][/QUOTE][/qb][/QUOTE]Again you display MORE Stupidity. I actually LINKED the Y-dna of the Bedouin in question. The SAME EXACT Bedouin whose Autosomal results we are looking at. I also stated all Bedouin are not the same. What do you go and do?...............you go and link the Y-dna results of a totally different Group, in JORDAN, who are in fact NOT EVEN BEDOUIN! :rolleyes: [URL=https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=5&ved=0CEYQFjAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.researchgate.net%2Fpublication%2F7617924_Isolates_in_a_corridor_of_migrations_a_high-resolution_analysis_of_Y-chromosome_variation_in_Jordan%2Ffile%2F9fcfd50c0d2cb8ccb7.pdf&ei=t2rfUcGDLtPE4AOj3YDACw&usg=AFQjCNGJ0aOgs450L7GVrt7XLLNMOA63xg&sig2=mZyMxiGrRFzz4ooXpnSU1w&bvm=bv.48705608,d.dmg]From your own source:[/URL] [QUOTE][b]As Bedouin tribes[/b] had an important role in the colonization of southeast Jordan, it could be that the haplogroup composition of the [b]Dead Sea reflected genetic affinities to them, but that is not the case.[/b] The most striking characteristic of the Dead Sea sample is the high prevalence of R1*-M173 lineages (40%), [b] contrasting with the lack of them and of its derivates R1b3-M269 in Bedouin from Nebel et al.[/b] (2001) and its low frequencies in Amman. [/QUOTE] [QUOTE] Another singularity of the Dead Sea is its high frequency (31%) of E3b3a-M34, a derivate clade of E3b3-M123 [b]that is only found in 7% in Bedouins[/b] (Cruciani et al. 2004). Until now, the highest frequencies for this marker (23.5%) had been found in Ethiopians from Amhara (Cruciani et al. 2004). On the contrary, [b]most Bedouin chromosomes (63%) belong to haplogroup J1-M267[/b] (Semino et al. 2004) compared with 9% in the Dead Sea[/QUOTE]Notice the differentiation of Dead Sea Jordanians and "Bedouin". Nowhere in that article are Dead Sea Jordanians called "Bedouin". One good thing about this study is that you can see the Autosomal results AND The Y-dna/mtdna results of the individual samples. Not sure why you ignored this and link data on Jordanians....stupidity perhaps? :confused: Moving on to this idiotic statement: [QUOTE] The line represent an average/mode/median of the group ie some values are above some below for each K. [/QUOTE]Well duh, dont try and act like you knew that the entire time. You dont even know what a "K" is. [b]Looking at the study there are 45 Bedouin and 27 Mozibite.[/b] (Page 34 of the supplemental you failed to click.) The Mozabite carry that blue component at 60-70% give or take. Half of the Bediouin match that at 60-70% as well. BUT [b]There about about 20 or so Bedouin that exceed that 60-70%....and instead they carry the Blue Cluster at 80-90%.[/b] Since NONE of the Mozibite carry the Blue component at 80-90% - this component cannot be characteristic of the Mozibite at the specific K=5,6,7,and 8. [b]Got it dummy?[/b] Its like 2 basket ball teams: TEAM ONE has 20 African American's that are all 6 foot 5. TEAM TWO has 20 African Americans that are 6 foot 5 also...[b] but they also have 10 Sudanese Dinka Bench-warmers that are all 7 foot 6 inches.[/b] Mean while your dumbass (attending your first B-Ball game I should add) is sitting on the sidelines, arguing with a season pass holder that Team One is the "best representation of Height". :eek: :rolleyes: :cool: [IMG]http://i2.cdn.turner.com/si/2011/writers/the_bonus/07/07/bol.excerpt/manute.bol.jpg[/IMG] [/QB][/QUOTE]
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