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Genomic Ancestry of North Africans Supports Back-to-Africa Migrations Brenna M. Henn
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by The Explorer: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Swenet: Silly lying ass pig is now on record lying again that none of my arguments included nucleotide specifics.[/QUOTE]If I'm "lying" stupid monkey, why then the hold up on your elusive nucleotide-specific premise? [QUOTE] Not that I needed those; the fairy tale nature of the prospect of these mtDNAs spawning in Northern Africa is self-evident given the absence of any indigenous mtDNA that could have served as a matrix.[/QUOTE]How would you know what said "matrix" looks like, when you base your thoughtlessness on thin air rather than nucleotide specifics? A fairy tale is making thoughtless wild guesses about ancestry out of anything but a genetic basis. [QUOTE]Lying ass pig, since you know so much about the population expansions this would require, and since you're so sure that something out of the ordinary is going on here, prove that the dynamics implicated here are any different in similar cases where a divergence in the last 10kya is established, like say, certain European L types.[/QUOTE]That's just it, chump: I can't think of any case in an mtDNA parent-offspring scenario where this much discordance, as that inferred between Maghrebi and Iberian sub-clades and haplogroups, is attained in that time span, while on the other hand, something like this was allegedly happening: [i]In contrast, the [b]two 16145 – 16222 haplotypes sporadically detected in the Iberian Peninsula[/b] [[44] and unpublished results] [b]belonged to the North African subgroup as they shared the coding 10257[/b] mutation, in addition to the H1 diagnostic transition 3010, with the totally sequenced Mauritanian sample (Figure 2). It seems that the 10257 transition [b]defines a new subgroup within H1[/b]. This fact [b]points to a possible, although not recent, North African demic influence on the Iberian genetic pool[/b].[/i] Can you think of African-sourced European L clades that fit the bill? While at it, get your numbnut to take a crack at filling me on why some 10kya "ancient migration" from Europe, of the magnitude that would supposedly bring H,V,U5 et al (essentially anything that is "Eurasian" to you) clades, lacks a male correspondence? [QUOTE] You're saying that as if you have any optional other groups to assign this fictional narrative. Post these imaginary non H1, H3, V and U5 lineages that are simultaneously non-Near Eastern, along with your sources.[/QUOTE]You are right, these "non H1, H3, V and U5" would be imaginary, born out of your imagination. Many clades of Europe (as Y-DNA also shows) rarely originate in Europe, including these very clades you name here, but of course that would surprise any slave-minded basket case like you. [QUOTE]]Lying pig, you asked me how I figured it was the case, and I answered your stupid question.[/QUOTE]By showing me that you have figured it out of a lack of thinking, since you merely repeated what was questioned only moments ago? [QUOTE]Lol, flip flopping slippery snake. How are they merely ''assumptions'' when they don't gel with your case, but ''point to Upper Paleolithic origins of the European L1b'' when they agree with you?[/QUOTE]Get a new line; incomplete quotation directed at refuting your bungled understanding of Casas et al is old and tired, and cannot demonstrate inconsistency in my stance on the subjective component of age simulations any more than when it was first used. By contrast, like the fuckheaded sucker you are, you actually believed/believe in the idea that solid dates could accurately be attained from these simulations. [QUOTE]Never said you did, however, the fact that you're now dancing around the issue like the snake that you are is indicative of the fact that you know you phucked up when you marginalized the independently established old age of the H1 and H3 clades as merely based on ''assumptions''.[/QUOTE]Dancing around "the issue" that only makes about as much sense (per your thinking-retardant skull) as your "extra-TMRCA"? LOL [QUOTE]Lying again, aren't you, filthy pig? How does saying there is continuity between modern Berber speakers and Taforalt remains equal confounding the two?[/QUOTE]There cannot be "continuity" between illusionary DNA and real DNA, you stupid chump. [QUOTE]You are such a phuckin' cretin. Taking about ''describe the accuracies about them''. That has to be the most retarded nondescript question I've ever read.[/QUOTE]Then you must not have compared this imagined "retardation" against your silly usage of a discredited material as supporting evidence. That's because you are that retarded (you are too retarded to know what is actually retarded). [QUOTE] What are Berber shared Eurasian mtDNA haplotypes to the tune of >75%, supposedly obtained from European female oriented slave trade, doing in pre-colonial Canary Island aDNA?[/QUOTE]Had you said that this is the "most retarded nondescript question I've ever read" instead of its irrelevant application above, then you would have been on firm grounding, and established that you are capable of a glimmer of critical thinking. Be a good little puppy, and dig up what I noted about H clades for instance, only moments ago. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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