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[QUOTE]Originally posted by the lioness,: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by the lioness,: [QB] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y-DNA_haplogroups_by_populations_of_North_Africa#cite_note-3 Y-DNA haplogroups by populations of North Africa [b] highest E-M81 frequencies[/b] Chenini–Douiret (Tunisia) Berbers, 100% Tunisia/Jradou Berbers- 100% Tunisia/Bou Saa- 92.5% Tunisia/Bou Omrane 87.5 Algeria/Mozabites- 86.6% ___________________________ [/QUOTE]try investigating what these people look like Keep in mind the above are Berber communities. The top four are all in Tunisia. You can't say those frequencies are average for Tunisia or the Maghreb in general. There is a large Arab component to the Tunisians. The frequency for M81 in Tunisia is 62.73, quite high yes but not in the 80% plus field of some Tunisian berber groups. And in Tunisia there are also some berber groups with high but similar lower frequencies than 80%, for example the Sened and Jerbian. And while Algerian Mozabites average at 86.6% Algerian average at 44.23% I point this out because people on ES often speak in such a way as if these berber villages represent the larger North Africa. They don't, the cities do. I've posted links to the mtDNA and Y Dna of berbers. Tukuler still hasn't consolidated the numbers and tried to make a case with the raw genetic data. Further, it must be placed in context of the whole population of the Maghreb with additional information as to the berber population context, the population number of particular berber groups. One berber group may be much larger than another berber group. Therefore that is a second factor. That is if you want to do things properly [/QB][/QUOTE]
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