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[QUOTE]Originally posted by the lioness,: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Trollkillah # Ish Gebor: So my question is again, where is your evidence of physical remains of these supposed Eurasians in Paleolithic, Mesolithic and Neolithic Africa? And robust doesn't mean one can't be tropical adapted in body portions and limb ratio, [/QUOTE]Your mentality is of an either/or situation, you think either they were African or they were European As with berbers of today, the DNA which you choose to ignore, indicates the western Maghreb Iberomaurusians were part African and part European. The morphology is reflective of this and racial estimation of skeletal remains is limited and further obscured by cases of people with mixed ancestry. Think if people in the future found the skeleton of Barak Obama but didn't know who he was. Some might conclude it's an African person, yet genteically Barack Obama is largely European on his mother side. This is where DNA comes in. Taforalt skeletons were analyzed. They have several haplogroups which are believed to have originated outside of Africa. So as this sheds some light on the matter, you who often use genetic information to tryt to prove arguments all of the sudden completely disregard it when you don't personally like the results. that's bias. The contemprary berbers have similar DNA profiles. If you look the Taforalts the have several Eurasian haplogroups. Somebody might try to argue over one. But there are more than just one and these are found in the specimens dating 12,000 Bp. This indcates at this time there were Eurasians in North Africa mixing with the locals. the Iberomaurusian period is 10,000 years and there are also likely changes within sub divisions of that time period. Instead of dealing with the DNA you go looking for morphological information, simply because you personally like the result better. And looking at the information, opinion of particular researhers, it is not even that firm words like "influenced by" or "suggests" are used [/QB][/QUOTE]
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