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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Trollkillah # Ish Gebor: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by the lioness,: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by KING: Maybe I am wrong Lioness but Trollpatrol is trying to show you to read that the skeleton you keep posting has its teeth removed like some cultures in the Sudan etc. [/qb][/QUOTE]He ripped it off from Tukuler. So the assumption is that Iberomaurusians were of the same stock as Sudanese? What about the fact that Sudanese are very tropically adapted and Iberomaurusians have limb rations like Alaskans as shown by Trenton Holliday one of the most prominent paleoanthropologists in the world. You cannot determine ancestry by a cultural tradition alone, and use it as a cause for exteme denial. Could that be political And it was also practiced in ancient Israel The Iberomaurusians were settled in Africa for 10,000 years. Do you think this tooth removal tradition therefore had to be a black African thing only? And once a foreign population is in a new region they are called "indigenous" or "natve" at that point, example, "Native Americans" - Asians who came form Siberia across the bearing strait Consider the mentality, people who post tons of DNA and physiocal anthropolgy data, then when they don't like the results throw it away [/QB][/QUOTE]You are now literally making up shyt. [QUOTE][i] ... most of the older hypotheses about North African population settlement used to suppose an Iberian or an eastern origin. The dates for subhaplogroups H1 and H3 (13,000 and 10,000 years, respectively) in Iberian and North African populations allow for this possibility. Kefi et al.’s (2005) data on ancient DNA could be viewed as being in agreement with such a presence in North Africa in ancient times (about 15,000–6,000 years ago) and with the fact that the North African populations are considered by most scholars as having their closest relations with European and Asian populations (Cherni et al. 2008; Ennafaa et al. 2009; Kefi et al. 2005; Rando et al. 1998). However, considering the general understanding nowadays that human settlement of the rest of the world emerged from eastern northern Africa less than 50,000 years ago, [URL=http://underscore]a better explanation of these haplogroups might be that their frequencies reflect the [b]original modern human population of these parts of Africa[/b][/URL] as much as or more than intrusions from outside the continent. [/i][/QUOTE]--Frigi et al., 2010 [QUOTE] Our project examined the early human occupation of Morocco in the Upper Pleistocene, with the broad aims of identifying changes in the archaeological and environ-mental records and assessing whether these may be correlated with global climatic events. [...] However the exact status of Heinrich Events and Dansgaard-Oeschger cycles in relation to climatic change still needs to be fully clarified and it may be too simplistic to interpret all of these episodes in the same way and purely in terms of major cooling and drying. [...] Thus although it seems reasonable to acknowledge a correlation between Heinrich Events and occupation episodes at Taforalt, the case for climate change as a dominant factor in this process cannot be fully tested until further work on reconstructing the palaeoenvironmental sequence has been completed. [/QUOTE][URL=http://www.nerc.ac.uk/research/programmes/efched/results]www.nerc.ac.uk/research/programmes/efched/results[/URL] [QUOTE] Regular Middle Paleolithic inventories as well as Middle Paleolithic inventories of Aterian type have a long chronology in Morocco going back to MIS 6 and are interstratified in some sites. Their potential for detecting chrono-cultural patterns is low. The transition from the Middle to Upper Paleolithic, here termed Early Upper Paleolithic—at between 30 to 20 ka—remains a most enigmatic era. Scarce data from this period requires careful and fundamental reconsidering of human presence. [b]By integrating environmental data in the reconstruction of population dynamics, clear correlations become obvious. High resolution data are lacking before 20 ka, and at some sites this period is characterized by the occurrence of sterile layers between Middle Paleolithic deposits, possibly indicative of a very low presence of humans in Morocco. [/b]After Heinrich Event 1, there is an enormous increase of data due to the prominent Late Iberomaurusian deposits that contrast strongly with the foregoing accumulations in terms of sedimentological features, fauna, and artifact composition. The Younger Dryas again shows a remarkable decline of data marking the end of the Paleolithic. Environmental improvements in the Holocene are associated with an extensive Epipaleolithic occupation. Therefore, the late glacial cultural sequence of Morocco is a good test case for analyzing the interrelationship of culture and climate change. [/QUOTE]--Late Pleistocene Human Occupation of Northwest Africa: A Crosscheck of Chronology and Climate Change in Morocco Jörg Linstädter, Prehistoric Archaeology, Cologne University, GERMANY Josef Eiwanger, KAAK, German Archaeological Institute, GERMANY Abdessalam Mikdad, INSAP, MOROCCO Gerd-Christian Weniger, Neanderthal Museum, GERMANY [QUOTE] North Africa is quickly emerging as one of the more important regions yielding information on the origins of modern Homo sapiens. Associated with significant fossil hominin remains are two stone tool industries, the Aterian and Mousterian, which have been differentiated, respectively, primarily on the basis of the presence and absence of tanged, or stemmed, stone tools. Largely because of historical reasons, these two industries have been attributed to the western Eurasian Middle Paleolithic rather than the African Middle Stone Age. In this paper, drawing on our recent excavation of Contrebandiers Cave and other published data, we show that, aside from the presence or absence of tanged pieces, there are no other distinctions between these two industries in terms of either lithic attributes or chronology. Together, these results demonstrate that these two ‘industries’ are instead variants of the same entity. [i]Moreover, several additional characteristics of these assemblages, such as distinctive stone implements and the manufacture and use of [b]bone tools and possible shell ornaments, suggest a closer affinity to other Late Pleistocene African Middle Stone Age industries rather than to the Middle Paleolithic of western Eurasia.[/b][/i] [/QUOTE]--On the industrial attributions of the Aterian and Mousterian of the Maghreb, Harold L. Dibble et al. Journal of Human Evolution, 2013 Elsevier. [QUOTE] Given the well-documented fact that human body proportions covary with climate (presumably due to the action of selection), [b]one would expect that the Ipiutak and Tigara Inuit samples from Point Hope, Alaska, would be characterized by an extremely cold-adapted body shape. [/b]Comparison of the Point Hope Inuit samples to a large (n > 900) sample of European and European-derived, African and African-derived, and Native American skeletons (including Koniag Inuit from Kodiak Island, Alaska) confirms that the Point Hope Inuit evince a cold-adapted body form,[b] but analyses also reveal some unexpected results. [/b]For example, one might suspect that the Point Hope samples would show a more cold-adapted body form than the Koniag, given their more extreme environment, [b]but this is not the case. Additionally, univariate analyses seldom show the Inuit samples to be more cold-adapted in body shape than Europeans,[/b] and multivariate cluster analyses that include a myriad of body shape variables such as femoral head diameter, bi-iliac breadth, and limb segment lengths fail to effectively separate the Inuit samples from Europeans. In fact, in terms of body shape, the European and the Inuit samples tend to be cold-adapted and tend to be separated in multivariate space from the more tropically adapted Africans, especially those groups from south of the Sahara.[/QUOTE]--Holliday TW, Hilton CE. Am J Phys Anthropol. 2010 Jun;142(2):287-302. doi: 10.1002/ajpa.21226. Body proportions of circumpolar peoples as evidenced from skeletal data: Ipiutak and Tigara (Point Hope) versus Kodiak Island Inuit. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19927367 [/QB][/QUOTE]
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