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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Amun-Ra The Ultimate: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Tukuler: [qb] Yeah sure I have a 10 year history on ES as a surreptitious bullshit agent. Ad hominem is one heluva substitute for research. Raw DNA data on Berbers is slapping the **** out of you. :D :D :D Playing my hand before its time but AUTOSOMES showing local African predominance in NA [IMG]http://picturestack.com/422/87/w1kPicture4j1D.png[/IMG] [/qb][/QUOTE]Your autosomal picture don't shows Berbers to be especially affiliated with other black Africans. It just shows that Berber are in North Africa since a long time ago (pale blue part, dark blue part at K=8), then it shows West Asian (Green and purple) admixture. Even Tunisians grew up to form their own cluster with their dark blue part (according to your graph). As any populations eventually would in those analysis. It doesn't mean they were always isolated from every other populations in North Africa and the rest of the world. [b]I'm not sure you have enough genetic knowledge to understand that.[/b] You're don't realize what you posted is completely in line with what I said above. That [b]Berbers are mix of European, West Asian and African ancestry (ancient and recent).[/b] When geneticist say North African ancestry they don't mean they are related to other Sub-Saharan Africans, they mean that those ancestry are in North Africa since a very long time ago. Every geneticists would agree that HUV haplogroups ancestral parents originate outside Africa. Either in Europe or Western Asia. In other words, Berbers are in North Africa since a long time and are not especially related to other black Africans beside through admixture. They are mixed. There's nothing wrong with having a nice admixture. Berbers don't deny it and nobody else deny it beside ES Tukuler obsessed with Berbers and North African populations. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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