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[QUOTE]Originally posted by KING: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by typeZeiss: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Tukuler: [qb] Do you consider Africans of partial Euro descent to be European? I mean yeah many many coastal Maghrebis in fact have Euro mommies. Does that discount the fact that native Maghrebi foundational roots are Paleolithic African? Admitting that doesn't mean native Maghrebis have no Euro or Arab admixture. It's quite obvious they are heavily mixed. A people P1 - in Africa P2 - of a foundational African root and P3 - (originally) speaking an African language are, in my opinion, C - an African people. Their religion and (current) language orientation to the Mid-East and neglect of issues and matters not of North Africa cannot and does not change the facts of their biology. Overall Maghrebis are Africans. [/qb][/QUOTE]I am assuming this is addressed to me? My Great Grandmother was Hausa, but I am not Hausa, that just is what it is. Can I say I have a blood relation to them? Well yeah, sure. At the end of the day though, I am not Hausa, nor do I expect they would welcome me as such. Same for those half castes in the north. They belong to where ever their slave mothers or fathers came from, or if they are Arabs, then well they belong to Arabia, not to Africa. I know these people to well, they do not consider themselves Africans, so to speak. Its the "I am African BUT" syndrome with these people. They should be rounded up and shown the door. Its like those half caste Egyptians who want to put a claim on Kemet. You can't have it both ways. Either you fully admit your foundation is black African and you are admixed or you don't. You can't embrace the glory days and deny the bad times. I guess that is the difference. I am black like the oil, so my skin doesn't wash off. I can't play the white role with Europeans and modern day Arabs, and then put on my black robe with my African brothers. But I do get your point in terms of Genetics, I mean the DNA make up is the DNA make up. We can't deny that. But there is a historical and cultural component to all this. Don't get me wrong, i don't hate half castes. Some of my best friends are half castes from North Africa (Im lying, just wanted to say that, it sounds funny lol). But no seriously, I don't hate anyone and I have a deep love for Brother Ghadaffi. But, I don't agree that these guys are "African" so to speak. A African is a black man, and a half caste is a half caste. I don't adhere to the Keita rubbish that there were always Africans looking like half castes and Europeans, complete rubbish. Those blacks in the north like our Tawargha Brothers, Libyan Songhai, Black Tamashaq, Siwani, Beja, Nuba, Tebu, Dongali and others, those are true Africans, they are true northerners. The other ones, well not so much. Look, can we say Obama is a European? No way. He has European blood yes, but his culture, physical appearance and a host of other things show he is a black man, and he counts himself as such. It is no different. We can't force people into a category that they don't belong. [/qb][/QUOTE]What you written is nothing but True Zeiss. You see it around you with certain self hating Indians claiming anything other then there blackness. "No I am brown" I laugh at this because if it was the USA they would of went through the same things that happened to the Blacks and Latinos during the civil rights. Brainwashing is rife with Indians probably the most brainwashed people on this earth next to the white berbers. The good thing about Indians though is there are many who are trying to break the cycle of selfhate and you gotta commend them for trying because TRUTH IS that Indians shockingly ARE BLACK. Yeah lioness and her retarded Tut looks Indian was the dumbest thing I have read but it shows the Mentality of these people I have a Friend thats light skinned and claims I stereotype people when I was telling her TRUTH not stereotypes, but because I did not say it political correct, she got upset. Blacks like her are quick to defend other races and not her own. I told her chinese people make chinatowns in every country they live in and are closed off from the larger communities they live in. There areas some cant even speak the lingua franca of the Country they live in and onluy speak mandarin and cantonese. She goes to me oh I have many asian friends and there parents speak english good. Then I said to her if chinese arent closed off, then why is there things CALLED CHINATOWN in the 1st place and why are the signs on the shop majority in Chinese in an English country. Then she said oh there is little portagoal and Italy blah blah blah. I asked her in these places are there signs on these places strictly in Italian and Porotguese. I asked her a Yes and No question that she had no choice but to say YES TO BOTH QUESTIONS. So its still there colonial minds is everywhere. Colonial mind is why these berber people can't unite with there fellow brothers in there communities and open doors for each other instead of just for themselves. Yet when they reach there "MOTHERLAND" (France :rolleyes: ) they are actually shocked to see how they are treated. hate begets hate. It does not work, there are better ways, but to see it through the haze is difficult for many. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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