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[QUOTE]Originally posted by the lioness,: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by xyyman: [qb] You are sneaky little punk aren't you? That is not the study I am referring to. "Pillars of Hercules" is my source. On one hand Ottoni, Achilli etc uses coalescance age estimation and NOT genomic haplotypes. To come up with their conclusion. Diversity/Haplotypes trumps frequency and the erratic method of coalescence age estimation. And it was cited in this thread' We discussed this already. [/qb][/QUOTE]So your source that the greatest diversity in the world of Haplogoup H is in North Africa is the Pillars of Herculus ? Somebody wrote it on the pillar? [b] Mitochondrial DNA haplogroup H structure in North Africa Hajer Ennafaa1[/b] The haplogroup H represents 44% of the mtDNA variation in the Iberian Peninsula, but only 22% in the Near East. Likewise, this distribution still reaches 25% in North Africa, but drops to only 9% in the Arabian Peninsula. That Palaeolithic expansion would explain the notorious presence of H1 and H3 detected mainly in the most North-western populations of North Africa and the decrease in their frequency eastwards. However, if this hypothesis held, the comparatively high diversity of H1 and H3 in North Africa would point to an important Palaeolithic gene flow from the Iberian Peninsula to North Africa across the Strait of Gibraltar. On the contrary, a consensus exists regarding the Near East origin of the bulk of the Y-chromosome and mtDNA North African lineages. However, discrepancies still exists with respect to the time in which these settlements most probably occurred. In the first Y-chromosome pioneering studies of the region, a Palaeolithic settlement for the autochthonous E-M81 clade was hypothesized in accordance with the age proposed based on classical markers [30]. However, later studies have assigned this, and other subclades derived from E-M78, that are particularly abundant in North Africa, a Neolithic or even historic settlement age and a Near East or Northeast African source [63,31-34]. On the other hand, for those mtDNA haplogroups pre-eminent in North Africa, that have been analyzed at deep genomic and phylogeographic levels, such as U6 and M1, a Palaeolithic settlement and Middle East roots have been proposed [11,13,14]. From our data, it can be also deduced that the presence of the H1 and H3 subgroups in North Africa could have similar expansion times as in Europe and, therefore, a late Palaeolithic settlement in the region. Finally, it should be noted that the different levels of gene flow detected throughout the Strait of Gibraltar [/QB][/QUOTE]
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