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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Trollkillah # Ish Gebor: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Amun-Ra The Ultimate: [qb] Another way to kick the ball on the sideline. Avoiding all the argumentation above, preferring to talk about fluff like my name or ridiculous stuff like that. [QUOTE]Originally posted by Tukuler: [qb] Hey dumbass the idea was to start this page with direct geneticist raw data relevant to the thread's header [/qb][/QUOTE]Since I disagree with him and kicked his ass with argumentation now he resorts to insults. Typical. [b]ES Tukuler[/b]: North Africans are mostly genetically related to other Sub-Saharan Africans. [b]Actual North African people and Genetics[/b]: No we aren't. [b]Diop and other historians[/b] : No, they aren't. [/qb][/QUOTE]That's odd, because the Moroccan Berbers I know claim indigenous situ to Northwest Africa. This includes the light skinned as well. [QUOTE]The results show that the most ancient haplogroup is L3*, which would have been introduced to North Africa from eastern sub-Saharan populations around 20,000 years ago [/QUOTE]--Frigi et al. [QUOTE]No southwest Asian specific clades for M1 or U6 were discovered. U6 and M1 frequencies in North Africa, the Middle East and Europe do not follow similar patterns, and their sub- clade divisions do not appear to be compatible with their shared history reaching back to the Early Upper Palaeolithic." [...] Some M1 and U6 sub-clades could be linked with certain events. For example, U6a1 and M1b, with their coalescent ages of ~20,000-22,000 years ago and earliest inferred expansion in northwest Africa, could coincide with the flourishing of the Iberomaurusian industry, whilst U6b and M1b1 appeared at the time of the Capsian culture. [/QUOTE]--Erwan Pennarun, Toomas Kivisild et al. Divorcing the Late Upper Palaeolithic demographic histories of mtDNA haplogroups M1 and U6 in Africa [QUOTE]Although Haplogroup M differentiated soon after the out of Africa exit and it is widely distributed in Asia (east Asia and India) and Oceania, there is an interesting exception for one of its more than 40 sub-clades: M1.. Indeed this lineage is mainly limited to the African continent with peaks in the Horn of Africa." [/QUOTE]--Paola Spinozzi, Alessandro Zironi . (2010). Origins as a Paradigm in the Sciences and in the Humanities. Vandenhoeck & Ruprecht. pp. 48-50 [QUOTE] “..the M1 presence in the Arabian peninsula signals a predominant East African influence since the Neolithic onwards.“ [/QUOTE]-- Petraglia, M and Rose, J (2010). The Evolution of Human Populations in Arabia: [/QB][/QUOTE]
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