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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Tukuler: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by [b]Doug M[/b]: [QUOTE]Originally posted by Tukuler: [QUOTE]Originally posted by [b]Doug M[/b]: the ancient African nomadic tradition of North Africa from which Berber Language and culture originates. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Pq0oOL4xD4 [/QUOTE]. And here I thought Berber language and culture originated with sedentary cultivators like those of the oases and the Atlas? [/QUOTE]Berber languages as far as I can recall originated in East Africa and traveled towards the Wast via movements of people from in and the Sudanese/Upper Egyptian Nile to North Africa from the ancestors of the modern Beja Nomads. And the Tuareg are indigenous Nomadic Saharan Africans speaking and writing the oldest variant of Berber languages known: Tamashek. Hardly a case for origins among "settled" populations, given this language moved from East to West across the vast Sahara. Their written language, Tifinagh is descended directly from Libyco Berber. The closest related scripts to Libyco Berber and tifinagh are Ge'ez and South Arabian. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSZGeANGgVU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prrPC27KsWQ [/QUOTE]I have it there were no Twareg until way after Neolithic time. Twareg are not monolithic in origin. Some who became Twareg moved south from Tripolitania and/or Tunisia. The aristocrat Twareg claim Tafilalet Morocco as point of origin. Certain peoples of Tassili were already there when subdued by incoming proto-Twareg adopting their culture when they became vassal clans. Then there's the sedentary banu Tanamak the apparent founders of Essuq Tademekkat. They too are one component of the Kel Tamasheq people. I only saw a weak reference for a Beja connection made by Cavilli-Sforza. If name origins mean anything and [i]Targui[/i] is indeed the name Twareg were first known by then they were [i]gardeners[/i] before the camel and then the Arab and their adopting predatory ways. Of course there's no doubt of their E Afr E-M81 or "Berber" language affiliation though Tifinagh is not Libyco-Berber as you noted. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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