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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Doug M: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Clyde Winters: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Doug M: [qb]Unfortunately lamin makes no sense as I have never heard of any one claiming the Tuareg to have "originally being lighter skinned" anything, except the Euroclowns. Tuareg are nomadic African people speaking Berber languages and descending from East Africans in Southern Egypt and Sudan. [/qb][/QUOTE]Berbers came from NorthWest Africa. Tuareg and Berbers were not Northeast African people The Tuareg did not come from the Fezzan, they originated in the West. According to Tuareg tradition they originated in the Tafilalt or Tafilet (Arabic: تافيلالت‎) a important oasis of the Moroccan Sahara, and migrated from there to the Fezzan. The contemporary Berbers or Amazigh are all in the West. The Berbers in Siwa are not native to the area. These Berbers are Amazigh and came to Siwa to settle the region due to a drought. Once they found the Siwa Oasis they returned to Algeria and Morocco to invite other Amazigh to settle the area. (See: http://www.siwaoasis.com/siwa_his.html ) The Taureg have traditionally been associated with the Western Sudan and Sahel. Not North Africa. The Libyans can not be homogenous because beginning with the invasion of the Peoples of the Sea numerous ethnic groups were deposited in the Delta and other parts of North Africa. Let’s discuss this issue that Berbers and Tuareg practice an African culture. This is evident when we look at the dress of Berber and Tuareg women [IMG]http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-36dbAvt2-Nw/UOt04L3_j9I/AAAAAAAAFZE/NSHZ7lalpeA/s1600/Tuareg_0229_Girl_Portrait.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2771/4291561276_9e316164b6.jpg[/IMG] http://www.flickr.com/photos/simylie/4291561276/ [b]Tuareg[/b] [IMG]http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4020/4430460208_1c7ac35e8f_o.jpg[/IMG] http://www.flickr.com/photos/54996985@N00/4430460208/in/pool-algeria/ [b]Berbers[/b] The culture of the Berbers and Tuareg does not correspond [IMG]http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3060/3081287437_ffcbdb1c9e_b.jpg[/IMG] [b]Berbers[/b] [IMG]http://frontporchnewstexas.com/images/timmermansisters9_000.jpg[/IMG] [b]Germans[/b] . . [/qb][/QUOTE]TIfinagh and Ge'ez are not that close. I stand corrected. For some reason I had recalled a closer connection but obviously that is faulty now that I look. As for the origins of the script, many associate it with the Tuaregs and the inscriptions are often found all over the Sahara, especially the Libyan Sahara. And I am talking only about Tifinagh, not Libyco Berber which as you said, may not be related to Tifinagh at all. In my mind, the Tuareg represent the descendants of a nomadic population of Africans who were in and around the Sahara and moved across a wide area, with one main branch, the one that introduced Berber languages, coming from the East, which is the reason for the genetic ties to the Beja. This lines up well with the theories of many linguists that Berber languages originate in the East around Sudan, Egypt and possibly Ethiopia. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbUiUUG8chg The Tuareg themselves are nomadic and therefore their distribution today does not necessarily match that of 3000 years ago and as previously mentioned their genetics are tied to those of North Sudan and Southern Egypt. And it is noted in places like the book by Fentress that there were ancient Berber populations in Egypt called the Temehu who stretched between Libya and Southern Egypt and are often associated with the ancestors of the modern Beja in Southern Egypt and Northern Sudan. That said, modern Berber languages are strongly associated with the Libyan Tuareg and the central Sahara and points to the West. However, the history of this language is not fixed as fits a people who were ultimately nomadic pastoralists. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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