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[QUOTE]Originally posted by the lioness,: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by xyyman: [qb] To move things along. To those who haven't connected the dots as yet. WHG/ANE are black skinned as attested to by recent aDNA reports. eg La Brana, Loschbour, ancient Siberian populations. Stuttgart introduced the light pigmentation gene. She was brown and carried the same diversity for skin pigmentation as YRI. WHG/ANE and Melanese has the same skin profile showing the initially wave was blsck skin. they remain black when they enetred Europe up to 6000BC. Now I see why East asian has a different pigmentation profile for light skin cf to Europeans. Why? East Asians git there profile from the first wave. Europeans got the profile from the 2nd wave..and it was recent. Remember Lazadaris did NOT specify the origin of EEF. They used YRI as a proxy. they concluded that San were NOT a good proxy. Again it makes sense. The San light skin profile is unlike YRI. So, Shriver was correct that AMH left with ability for light skin. And eye color and skin pigmentation is unrelated. he was off with the timing. It is all falling in place.. [/qb][/QUOTE]what is falling into place is near to conventional theory but on a shorter time frame but has been discussed for the past seven years namely that darker skinned people, in prehistoric times before civilization, began to depigment and over several thousands years went from brown skinned and blue eyed to the paler skin of today. La Brana for instance, is 7000 years old. (not 4000, the figure you keep putting out) [IMG]http://cdn.phys.org/newman/gfx/news/2014/gbhjnik.jpg[/IMG] La Brana skull This falls into the time frame of the below article, already much discussed, from seven years ago by Ann Gibbons http://galsatia.files.wordpress.com/2007/04/blanche_paleur.pdf Science 20 April 2007: Vol. 316 no. 5823 p. 364 DOI: 10.1126/science.316.5823.364a NEWS FOCUS AMERICAN ASSOCIATION OF PHYSICAL ANTHROPOLOGISTS MEETING [b]European Skin Turned Pale Only Recently, Gene Suggests[/b] Ann Gibbons PHILADELPHIA, PENNSYLVANIA-- At the American Association of Physical Anthropologists meeting, held here from 28 to 31 March, a new report on the evolution of a gene for skin color suggested that Europeans acquired pale skin quite recently, perhaps only 6000 to 12,000 years ago. _______________________________________ this means Eurasians stole everything they know form black people right? All the knowledge No, it means they ARE formerly black people (FB) This is why modern Europeans should be more respectful of black people because they were them not long ago, the ancestors _________________________________________________________ The mitochondria of both individuals are assigned to U5b2c1, a haplotype common among the small number of other previously studied Mesolithic individuals from Northern and Central Europe. This suggests a remarkable genetic uniformity and little phylogeographic structure over a large geographic area of the pre-Neolithic populations. [...] The generated data covered 41,320,020 nucleotide positions for La Braña 1 and 16,876,146 for La Braña 2; thus, about 1.34% and 0.53% of the La Braña 1 and 2 genomes were retrieved, respectively [...] A worldwide genomic principal component analysis (PCA) with data from the 1000 Genomes Project places La Braña 1 and 2 near, but not within the variation of current European populations (Figure S2). However, when compared exclusively to European populations, [b]La Braña 1 and 2 fall closer to Northern European populations such as CEU and Great Britons than Southern European groups such as Iberians or Tuscans (Sánchez-Quinto et al., 2012)[/b] ________________________________________ ^^^ xyyman, Sardinians out the window It doesn't matter though. This is the irrational idea that's going through your head subconsciously> >> Black people coming directly from Africa settled Europe 4000 years ago carrying all the hapologroups found there today It can still fit into the biblical timeline [/QB][/QUOTE]
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