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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Tukuler: [QB] See, just as predicted. Give you what you asked for a gov doc equating white with n afr and you don't care you go into flim flam mode believe me and my line of **** not the lying current gov doc. At least Clyde didn't deny there is a word ta[b]M[/b]a[b]SH[/b]e[b]Q[/b] though he blind eyedly denies its the dialectical equivalent of ta[b]M[/b]a[b]Z[/b]i[b]GH[/b]t, no matter he often presents wordlists with less obvious ties. Is this it now? Is this where ES is at? Personal preference regardless of valid documentation. Is it worth the time and effort to research and post the findings just for lurkers who never reply or future surfers GOOGLing around? [QUOTE]Originally posted by the lioness,: [qb] [IMG]http://www.prb.org/images09/question6.gif[/IMG] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Tukuler: [qb] Like Swenet you really won't care what the source say vs your own personal opinion but here http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/meta/long_RHI125212.htm [list] [*][b]White[/b]. A person having origins in any of the original peoples of Europe, the Middle East, or [URL=http://underscore]North Africa[/URL]. It includes people who indicate their race as "White" or report entries such as Irish, German, Italian, Lebanese, Arab, [URL=http://underscore]Moroccan[/URL], or [b]Caucasian[/b]. [/list] [QUOTE]Originally posted by the lioness,: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Tukuler: According to the USA census all peoples of N Afr and the "Mid-East" are supposed to check white Caucasian no matter their colour or phenotype. [/QUOTE]I have never heard that before. Do you have a source applicable to recent US census (not from 20 years ago) that says the US census says that North Africans are supposed to check White ?? I find it hard to believe, also the Cencus uses the term "White" currently not "White Caucasian" [/qb][/QUOTE][/qb][/QUOTE]I don't know if I recall the Census including this fact sheet in the packet. The quote says " It includes people who indicate their race as "White" They indicate that by choice and people that indicate that for themselves might be North African quote: Black or African American. A person having origins in any of the Black racial groups of Africa. It includes people who indicate their race as "Black, African Am., or Negro"; or report entries such as African American, Kenyan, Nigerian, or Haitian. ^^^ this doesn't say excluding North Africans I don;t think this fact sheet is in the packet or that it necessarily says North Africans are supposed to check White The Census is self identified currently A Black Moroccan is not likely to check "White" They will check Black and there will not be a problem However a 'mulatto' person hesitate with the above census section. There is no "pardo" category aka brwon in Spanish as there is on the Brazil census One could argue that the categories "White" and "Black" be eliminated from the census ---Although at the bottom of the section "Some Other Race" you can skip all the categories and write in whatever you want Notice they have "Black" and "White" but don't have "Asian" as a race. They could have said "African", " European" , Asian" or "Black" "Yellow""White" The whole thing is confused and inconsistent then why did you bring it up lioness? --for rhetorical purposes or also to suggest maybe do away with that whole section Lp [/qb][/QUOTE] [/QB][/QUOTE]
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