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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Ish Gebor: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by the lioness,: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by sudaniya: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by the lioness,: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by sudaniya: [qb] As I understand it the dark skin Berbers [like the Tuaregs] share a common origin with the Beja of my country, and it is from here that the Berber language and people originate from -- meaning that the black Berbers are the original Berbers. The paternal DNA of the non- black Berbers is apparently predominately African but their maternal DNA is Eurasian, so the non-black Berbers are just derivatives of the original black Berber males and Eurasian females. [/qb][/QUOTE]the language of the Tuareg is Tamachek, with their own script known as Tifinagh, thought to have ancient Libyan roots. [/qb][/QUOTE]I'm not talking about the script.. I'm talking about the language itself. The Tuaregs have an older origin in east Sudan and apparently share a common origin with the Beja. [/qb][/QUOTE]ublished online 2010 Mar 17. doi: 10.1038/ejhg.2010.21 PMCID: PMC2987384 [b]Linking the sub-Saharan and West Eurasian gene pools: maternal and paternal heritage of the Tuareg nomads from the African Sahel[/b] Luísa Pereira,1,2 Viktor Černý,3, Carrying out biological or genetic investigations of the Tuareg has not always been easy because of their demanding lifestyle and their often negative attitude to the European colonists. Cavalli-Sforza et al,2 whose synthesized study of classical protein and serological markers is well known, noticed a genetic link between the Tuareg and Beja from Eastern Sudan. The fact that the genetic distances between the Tuareg and Berber/North-western Africans were larger than that between the Tuareg and Beja, provides a picture of a common origin and population separation at some point more than 5000 years ago. Relationships with the peoples of Eastern Sudan (the Beja) as pointed to by the study of classical genetic markers2 cannot yet be disregarded here as there is still no mtDNA of the Beja people available for study. However, according to historical reports, the origin of the Beja is more likely to be traceable to the Arabian Peninsula52 and the West Eurasian mtDNA lineages seen in the Tuareg have a rather Iberian affiliation in the post-LGM, and probably expanded to North Africa first.30, 31 The weak Eastern African influence in Tuareg is further supported by the M1 haplotypes belonging to the lineages characteristic of the later Mediterranean expansion (M1b and M1a2a) and the presence of very few matches for sub-Saharan L haplotypes with East Africa. It is curious that, at least for the Tuareg maternal gene pool, there are no mtDNA lineages connected with the Neolithic expansion from the Near East despite being present in considerable frequencies in other North African populations. For example, the conservation of the high frequency and remarkable internal variability of T1 haplotypes within the distant and relatively isolated Egyptian oasis of el-Hayez led to an estimation of local expansion at around 5138±3633 YBP.37 There are no indications yet of the ages of local expansions in the more central and western regions of North Africa, which could contribute further insights for its absence in the Tuareg population as a whole. [/qb][/QUOTE]Suspecting stuff doesn't make it real. M1 is local to east African populations. Now the L markers are from East Africa? lol smh Ok, [QUOTE]Our results reveal that Berber speakers have a foundational biogeographic root in Africa and that deep African lineages have continued to evolve in supra- Saharan Africa.[/QUOTE]--Frigi et al. [QUOTE]This site has been called Gobero, after the local Tuareg name for the area. About 10,000 years ago (7700–6200 B.C.E.), Gobero was a much less arid environment than it is now. In fact, it was actually a rather humid lake side hometown of sorts for a group of hunter-fisher-gatherers who not only lived their but also buried their dead there. How do we know they were fishing? Well, remains of large nile perch and harpoons were found dating to this time period. [/QUOTE] http://anthropology.net/2008/08/14/the-kiffian-tenerean-occupation-of-gobero-niger-perhaps-the-largest-collection-of-early-mid-holocene-people-in-africa/ [QUOTE]Originally posted by Ish Gebor: [IMG]http://www.staabstudios.com/images/arch_7.jpg[/IMG] Kiffian Forensic reconstruction Resin, University of Chicago and Project Exploration http://www.staabstudios.com/galleries/arch-7.html [IMG]http://www.staabstudios.com/images/arch_9.jpg[/IMG] Tenerean Forensic reconstruction Resin, University of Chicago and Project Exploration http://www.staabstudios.com/galleries/archaeology.html [IMG]http://www.staabstudios.com/images/arch_8.jpg[/IMG] Gobero People Forensic reconstruction Resin, University of Chicago and Project Exploration [/QUOTE][IMG]http://www.plosone.org/article/fetchObject.action?uri=info:doi/10.1371/journal.pone.0002995.g006&representation=PNG_M[/IMG] Figure 6. Principal components analysis of craniofacial dimensions among Late Pleistocene to mid-Holocene populations from the Maghreb and southern Sahara. Obviously Luísa Pereira, and his gang were somewhat lying. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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