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[QUOTE]Originally posted by BlessedbyHorus: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Swenet: ^They were makers of the Iberomaurusian industry. But are they genetically the same as the first makers of this industry? That is a part of the discussion of their origins that we never really addressed. The Taforalt and Afalou samples date to the last stage of the Iberomaurusian (they're just a bit older than the beginning of the Capsian). The first Iberomaurusians lithics are in the 25-20ky range (see Pennarun et al 2012's summary). That's at least 10.000 years when we have no large skeletal sample showing us who the first Iberomaurusians are. In those 10.000 years there could have been a lot of demic diffusion into the coastal areas they inhabited, for all we know. If that happened, we wouldn't even know because we don't have an early Iberomaurusian sample to compare the Afalou and Taforalt samples to. E-M35 starts to break up into different branches after 25ky. One of these branches contains the E-V257 mutation. The U6 mutation in Romania, on the other hand, is ~33ky old. That's at least a 10ky old difference in between E-V257 and U6. They still could have been companions during the LGM in Africa, but in that case, something would have brought them together. MtDNA U and E aren't natural companions. So far, the pattern that has emerged from aDNA is that mtDNA U is associated with paternal F, R, I, C, IJK and others, while E is associated with L3. I'm adding a blogpost in January. I'll let you know when it's done. [/QUOTE]Could it be that the [i]first[/i] people of the Iberomaurusian industry were those who descend from the Aterian culture? Those people carried a now extinct mtDNA lineage. Around the Paleolithic they were absorbed by those migrating U6 and other Eurasian migrants, where their mtDNA soon disappeared... However their Y-DNA A haplogroups managed to survive but in small frequencies compared to the Eurasian F, R, I, C, IJK... Then according to Erwan Pennarun 2012 those dominate people of the Iberomaurusian were later absorbed by either E-M35 or E-M81 carrying proto-Berbers who were more larger in numbers and advanced. Which is why we see little of those early Eurasian paternal clades that you mentioned in the Maghreb/Northwest Africa. I believe something like this happened. Multiple migrations happening in Northwest Africa with each population replacing the next. In my opinion similar to what happened in Europe and even India. And I too notice that Taforalt and Afalou samples date from later Iberomurasian era. If U6 is 30k then I personally believe those samples are too young. I don't know... All I know is that more remains need to be found and tested. Anthropology in Africa is lacking compared to Europe and the rest of the world. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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