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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Autshumato: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by the lioness,: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Swenet: [qb] ^These are presumably the original Berber speakers. Either that, or they are biologically very similar to the original Berber speakers. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25130626 [/qb][/QUOTE]The article is talking about a rare clade of L3 found in 5 people in an isolated region of Spain but makes no mention of berbers. How do they know how recent it is in the ancestry of these 5 people? [IMG]http://i1079.photobucket.com/albums/w513/Amunratheultimate/Misc/FrequenciesofmtDNAhaplogroupsinthefourBerberpopulationsCoudray2008part2.jpg[/IMG] ^ Coudray et al. 2008 The high L3 frequencies are with the Figuig [QUOTE] The main L3d sublineage is L3d3a1, whose haplotype network shows a largely Khoisan centrality (not Damara) although this node is shared also by some unspecified "other Bantu". The Southern Africa specificity of L3d3a was already noticed in the past (see here). So it is very possible that we are before an aboriginal Southern African lineage, maybe arrived with the first Khoisan Neolithic (or whatever other ancient flow) rather than a Bantu-specific founder effect. http://forwhattheywereweare.blogspot.com/2014/02/sw-african-bantu-matrilineages.html comment on Chiara Barbieri et al., Migration and interaction in a contact zone: mtDNA variation among Bantu-speakers in southern Africa. bioRXiv 2014. [/QUOTE]Figuig is a town in eastern Morocco near the Atlas Mountains, on the border with Algeria. [IMG]http://c7.alamy.com/comp/H4AR01/africa-morocco-figuig-shepherd-with-turban-portrait-view-to-camera-H4AR01.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://c7.alamy.com/comp/DF57NC/figuig-region-woman-morocco-DF57NC.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://c7.alamy.com/comp/H4B830/africa-morocco-figuig-woman-with-child-in-the-desert-H4B830.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://c7.alamy.com/comp/H4APYW/africa-morocco-figuig-people-at-a-watering-place-in-the-desert-H4APYW.jpg[/IMG] [/qb][/QUOTE]These are clearly mixed race people, because I've seen many admixed people in and around my community with these features. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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