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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Fourty2Tribes: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Swenet: So, let me get this right. You're saying that the African STR alleles of Aframs is consistently scattered over SSA and West Eurasia and often peaks in Egyptians and Somalis? Do you have evidence for this?[/QUOTE]That is exactly what Dnaconsultants is saying about 1% of African American alleles. They even said the same for a gene that was found in modern Egyptians and not found in the royals. [i]Although not detected in the royal mummies whose DNA has been examined so far, this autosomal ancestry marker is also clearly African in origin. Today it enjoys its greatest spread in Egyptians. About 1 in 10 Africans or African Americans have it, but a sharp spike occurs in Copts, today’s successor population in the Land of the Nile, where up to 27% possess it.[/i] These are old markers that aren't even shared by all the royals or in this case any of the three Consultants tested. [QUOTE]Let's look at the facts. The only information you have thanks to DNA Tribes is that the pooled South African, West African and Great Lakes regions outperform the two pooled North African regions (one of which is problematically pooled with the Levant). Your next step is proving that these regions outperform the Adaima Coptic sample from Coudray et al. Then, your next step is proving that admixture in North Africa doesn't limit the North African regions' capacity to compete in terms of posting high MLI scores. Before you do that DNA Tribes can be dismissed as an unfair analysis. And this is not a criticism of DNA Tribes, because they never intended it to be taken literally.[/QUOTE]Thanks to Dnatribes, Dnaconsultants and the Ramses test. This again questions the definition of 'literally'. The test literally says that the the majority of people who share a greater combination of those genes are located in those regions. The only narrative I would present is that they are descendants of what was probably an ancient population of shared ancestry likely along the Nile it's source or the Green Sahara. The fact that certain Coptic populations share some or even all of those genes at high frequencies does not change that. It makes a case that they would be better represented in an SNP test (same would probably be true with other ethnic groups). [QUOTE]I manually counted the frequencies of the pharaonic alleles in African populations. I posted by results and challenged nay sayers to falsify them. My results look nothing like DNA Tribes. Two Egyptian sample are among the best scoring samples, while other Egyptian samples score poorly. The fact that Egyptian samples rank among samples with the best and the mediocre results clearly shows that DNA Tribes pooled regions makes the analysis unfair and that admixture in North Africa plays a huge role. [/QUOTE]That doesn't mean its anymore unfair than an inverse analysis. It points to how Egypt was diverse, invaded and gentrified. The same is true for much of the Sudan. I was surprised at how many tribes in the Sudan are of dark skin people who claim to be Arabs from Arabia. Tribes, like the Bamilike, Dogon, and Kalenjin that trace their history to Egypt or the Yoruba to the Sudan during a time when their ethnic groups were more intact could make the same case that the test is unfair because it focuses on shared ancestry within a large region. Even if DnaTribes ran an African panel it would still favor tribes within the regions that have high MLI scores ie a combo of Consultant's genes. What alleles and what African populations did you use? If less than 1% of African Americans share all of Consultants's three Amarna genes good luck with any individual African ethnic group. The Tribes and Consultants analysis do not favor frequency in small populations as much as shared genetics however like I said, even if they ran an African panel it would still favor tribes in the regions with the higher MLI scores. Besides, compared to Yoruba in my test, North Africa had a huge MLI score among the royals tested. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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