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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Swenet: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Doug M: [QUOTE]Originally posted by Swenet: You first started out saying I was "trying" to "shoehorn" EEF into Africa, then you started dodging the fact that the common denominator in all living Afroasiatic speaking groups INCLUDES an EEF-like component. Now all of a sudden you "only have a problem with the term EEF". Doug and his usual wobbliness. And Wadi Kubbaniya [URL=https://www.academia.edu/2050640/Harvati_K._and_J.-J._Hublin_2012_Morphological_continuity_of_the_face_in_the_late_Middle_and_Late_Pleistocene_hominins_from_northwestern_Africa_A_3D_geometric_morphometric_analysis._In_Modern_Origins_A_North_African_Perspective._Dordrecht_Springer_p._179-188]looks broadly similar to southern Asians (i.e. Andaman Islanders and Australian Aboriginals) and UP OOA groups[/URL]. Since I know for a fact there are no clear-cut morphological links between Wadi Kubbaniya and (pre)dynastic Egyptians, nor morphological links between these two that trump links between (pre)dynastic Egyptians and Angel's EEF samples, I don't think you know what you're doing Doug. Just groping in the dark. [/qb][/QUOTE]Yes I have a problem with it. You just can't seem to accept these people are just using composite labels to hide the African genetic input into Eurasia over the last 100,000 years and more. Sure there was some Eurasian inflow into ancient Africa but that is trivial compared to the ORIGIN of all human DNA in Africa and subsequent African migrations into Eurasia over time. This is the part they are trying to conceal using these new labels and their own methodologies show this clearly. It is fine if one is trying to model population movements within Europe but such labels become disingenuous when one uses them as absolute references for overall population movements between Africa and Eurasia over time. [qb]The Kubbaniya example and the other examples are support for the point that PATTERNS of subsistence behavior involving harvesting wild grains laid the foundation of modern farming in the Levant at least partly as a result of African influence on Levantine populations. But you are trying to pigeonhole this into one group of traits or another at a biological level which is the problem. If you are going to categorize things and label things as a way to show relationships the categories and labels should be relevant to what is being discussed. And what i am saying simply is that African genetic signatures have ALWAYS been in the Levant and masking it out simply promotes false history. And migrations of Africans with adaptive strategies such as harvesting wild grains could and would have been a significant influence on the Levant STARTING with OOA and continuing all the way through the Neolithic.... [/qb][/QUOTE]So you admit you wasted everyone's time spamming information about subsistence strategies 22ky ago. And these subsistence strategies are supposed to undermine a genetic concept associated with a population that lived 16ky after Wadi Kubbaniya? You have no idea what you're doing, do you? In the meantime, you have yet to address the matter at hand; the [URL=http://s10.postimg.org/w4jqr4ig9/24_5_2014_22_22_45.png]purple component in Africans[/URL]. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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