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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Swenet: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Fourty2Tribes: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Swenet: We're going in circles. [/QUOTE]Nah Swenet, we are making progress because you are explaining yourself. But you still aren't defining literal. [QUOTE]Originally posted by Swenet: As I've already pointed out, your own source (DNAconsultants) has the frequency of the Thuya and Akhenaten "genes" higher in Egypt and Somalia than anywhere else. So why even still bring up what DNAconsultant says about African Americans' frequency at this point? Why does it make sense to you to still bring up a lower frequency as evidence of what you're saying when your source says the peaks are in northeast Africa? There are southern and Central Africans in DNAconsultants' database and they are mentioned in your own quotes from DNAconsultants as having lower frequencies. So why speculate about southern and Central Africans having "much more of these genes"? This is wishful thinking. Look at the list. Living Egyptians and Somalis have ancestry in common and the Somali, Adaima Muslims and Upper Egyptians are at the top of the list. What more is there to say? By contrast, The Ovambo and Tanzanian samples are outscored by highly admixed Egyptian Muslims from Adaima. Even though there is no non African ancestry hampering their ability to score well (as is the case in the North African samples), Ovambo and Tanzanians barely outscore the Coptic, Greek and Moroccan samples. The Somali sample outscores samples with such mediocre scores with more than a full point. Very suspect if the pharaonic alleles are supposed to match DNA that is in DNA Tribes Great Lakes and South Africa regions. There is obviously a trend in that list, which is also reflected in the fact that Thuya's and Akhenaten's "rare genes" have a completely different distribution than the "rare genes" from SSA:[/QUOTE]Somalia is located in SSA and every mummy had a high MLI score in the horn. There are reasons why other regions have higher MLI ratings. The allele that is shared by 50% of Somalis is shared by 1/3 of African Americans. The MLI score is based not just on frequency but also on rarity, exclusivity and probably frequency of combinations. That is why I brought up African Americans. This is the same system, that with the same STRs would tell us that Keanu Reeves is east Asian and European despite being poor at discerning admixtures. The rarest allele in Consultant’s analysis (D18S51=19) is also the most exclusive to Africa in their analysis. Then you have SSA exclusive alleles like CSF1PO=6 D7S820=6, D18S51=8, FGA=31 that are almost nonexistent in your chart or exclusively SSA. [/qb][/QUOTE]What I mean with "literal" is that some are taking DNA Tribes as conclusive and dismiss the fact that ancient samples from North Africa will inevitably dwarf all the MLI scores. Some are also taking this as more than a comparison of pooled regions of which some are admixed beyond recognition today. I can reproduce DNA Tribes' results to some extent. Meaning, i can totally obscure the decently scoring Upper Egyptians by pooling them with the Syrians in a 'Levantine' region. That is what DNA Tribes did. If I do that, the pooled SSA regions will rise to the top of my list, too. But would that mean my analysis accurately portrays what's going on? No. The SSA regions would simply be at the top of my list because of subjective choices I made. As far as those alleles you're talking about. Keep researching them and post your results here when you learn more [IMG]http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/icons/icon14.gif[/IMG]. I've also been researching them and I have my own ideas regarding how they fit. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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