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[QUOTE]Originally posted by sudaniya: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Cass/: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by sudaniya: [qb] Ancient Egypt as a whole will be won or lost in the South -- where it all began. I don't see the "Eurasian" crowd winning in Southern Egypt if genetic samples are taken from this area... the most important area in Dynastic Egyptian history. Northern Egypt approaches irrelevance when compared to the South. It's just a fact. [/qb][/QUOTE]If ancient northern Egyptians were predominantly Levantine, why wouldn't southern Egyptians have a sizable amount? The former mixed with the latter, so at the very least there will be a moderate-to-high Levantine ancestry in southern Egyptians. Anyway, the reason I think this is still false, is we now have National Geographic 2017 genetic data (based on a large amount of samples all across Egypt) showing modern Egyptians as a whole are nearly 70% native/'North African'. Secondly, the Krause et al. 2017 PCA could have the New Kingdom Egyptian samples closest to Copts. [/qb][/QUOTE]You're running around in circles. You're trying to maintain two contradictory positions. Are Northern Egyptians Levantine derived or are they predominantly North African? Choose one of these propositions. Let's assume that we're proceeding with the understanding that we can reconstruct the genetic profile of the ancient Egyptians based on the Nat-Geo 'study' on modern Egyptians... ..Well, that would mean that even Northern ancient Egyptians were not predominantly Levantine if the modern population in the North is genetically at least 65% North African, as you argued earlier. We can then safely assume that this North African component was higher than 65% in Dynastic Northern Egyptians. A figure in excess of 75% is not unreasonable. The figures for the South would invariably also be higher. The largely mahogany-brown people of the South (whose pictures I've shown) are likely the best representatives of the ancient Egyptians, in light of their lower exposure to the Levant. The Copts further North than the Saidi in Luxor, Esna, Kom Ombo and Aswan are not going to beat them in this regard. Not going to happen. You can either maintain the Levantine position or the North African position, but you can't simultaniously maintain both, unless you wish to get paradoxical and argue that the indigenous North African component increased over time - supplanting the non-indigenous Levantine ancestry. Ancient Egypt was established by predynastic Upper Egyptian cultures; these Upper Egyptian and 'Nubian' predynastic cultures were nearly identical and were undeniably (Northeast) African - not "Eurasian". This is what you must come to terms with. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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