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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Ish Gebor: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Cass/: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Ish Gebor: Interesting post. However the state says 8Kya max. [/QUOTE]Even if you go back further in time (say 20,000 BP) when there was negligible frequency rs1426654 and rs16891982 -- Upper Palaeolithic Europeans carried a high frequency of rs1042602, rs2424984, rs642742 and rs12203592 (2/4 of the latter derived alleles are usually always present and a moderate frequency of the others.) http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=009633 [QUOTE]Originally posted by Cass: KITLG [rs642742] locus lightens a person’s color by an average of 6 to 7 melanin units. This compares with an overall skin reflectance difference of approximately 30 melanin units between West Africans and Europeans." https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2900316/ This is precisely the sort of thing I'm looking for. So rs642742 explains 6 or 7 out of 30 as a percent = 20-23%.[/QUOTE]The point I made in that thread is Upper Palaeolithic Europeans would have not been black, but a light brown shade. Most carried rs642742 and that explains up to 23% of the skin pigmentation variation difference between living West Africans and Europeans. This isn't even taking the other three alleles into account, that would probably total 40%. Interestingly I remember Carleton Coon saying something like the skin of Upper Paleolithic Europeans ranged from what is typically observed in Mediterranean populations, to Native Americans. [/qb][/QUOTE]^ You posted on Mesolithic Europeans (pigmentation alleles): The interesting part is: [QUOTE] [i]She lacked the derived variant (rs16891982) of the SLC45A2 gene associated with light skin pigmentation but had at least one copy of the derived SLC24A5 allele (rs1426654) associated with the same trait. [/i][/QUOTE]—M. Gallego-Llorente, R. Pinhasi et al. The genetics of an early Neolithic pastoralist from the Zagros, Iran Btw, I am not sure why you are bringing West Africans into this conversation again? Anyway: [QUOTE] "Of the remaining 10 common core haplotype groups, all ancestral at rs1426654, eight clearly have their origins in Africa (Figure 3B, Figure 4, and Table S4). [/QUOTE]--Victor A. Canfield et al. Molecular Phylogeography of a Human Autosomal Skin Color Locus Under Natural Selection 2013 [/QB][/QUOTE]
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