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[QUOTE]Originally posted by sudaniya: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Cass/: [qb] At least Akachi is open about what Afrocentrism is all about (black racialist politics & hating white people); I have more a problem with those more 'sneaky' Afrocentrics who try to rebrand/repackage Afrocentrism to try to present it as somehow moderate and a respectful ideology, or deny it is Afrocentrism entirely, so they try to play the"I'm objective" card like you have these white "race [i]realists[/i]" like Jared Taylor..."i'm not racist, but a racist realist!". Similarly we have all these Afrocentrist posters distancing themselves from Clyde Winters, Akachi etc., when they hold the [b]same core[/b] views (pan-Africanism or black racialist politics, ancient Egyptians as black etc.), what's the point in the failed rebrand? Unless you're going to give up the pan-Africanism and "Egyptians were black" theory, you're still an Afronut. Those few blacks I would label [i]not[/i] Afrocentrics are those who (a) recognise population-structure in Africa, so that North Africans don't cluster with populations below the Sahara (opposed to pan-Africanism) and (b) recognise ancient Egyptians were not black in pigmentation. The classical scholar Frank M. Snowden is a good example of this: he recognised population-structure inside Africa (he did not label North Africans as "Negroid") and he also understood Egyptians and Libyans were not black (dark brown) in pigmentation, but light to medium brown - like the skin colour variation observed in north Indians, as opposed to south Indians, who are black. Just google image north vs. south Indian to see the contrast. [/qb][/QUOTE]In other words you would like to pretend that Upper Egyptians (demographically and politically dominant AE) and "Nubians" (Lower "Nubians" in particular) don't stem from a common origin and were virtually identical in the predynastic and dynastic period. Instead you would like people to believe that the ancient Egyptians were a Levantine transplant (with no evidence), and when people reject your thoroughly debunked "Hamitic" race theories, you quite predictably lash out and label them "Afronuts". Frank Snowden was not an expert in this field and so introducing him into the discussion is laughable. Even he conceded that the ancient Egyptians were mahogany-brown -- the same skin tone that the Lower "Nubians" shared with their sibling population in Upper Egypt. Libyans like the Tuaregs of the Fezzan and the nearby Siwa Berbers in Northern Egypt would also be recognised as 'black'. Despite all his concessions to Eurocentrics, Frank Snowden was accussed of according the Negro (Kushites) more credit than they actually deserved. He asserted that the ancient Egyptians were mahogany-brown but paradoxically also asserted that they were a white population [/QB][/QUOTE]
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