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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Akachi: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by beyoku: You are still here posting but cannot explain why Native Sudanese dont have any E-M2.[/QUOTE]Beyoku...stop it! As we have noted earlier, you're playing technical games with that "Native" Sudanese ****. The sample from the study cited was from the known Nubian territory on the border of Sudan and Egypt. [IMG]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_70QeGoT_fmI/SvDH2OeYkzI/AAAAAAAAAVw/ECiv8U3nrUc/s1600/ychromoegypt1.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]https://media1.britannica.com/eb-media/82/19782-004-E0C96612.jpg[/IMG] ^^^ I don't have TIME...for those types of semantics Beyoku. That bullshit is what you MUST resort to try to derail my narrative (you've been here for a DECADE and don't have narrative..something is fishy with that) shows how weak your crux is. We all know that the bio-cultrual affinities of the Nubian population in that particular region of Upper Egypt to northern Sudan form a genetic continuum that relates the populations irregardless of 140 year old political borders. [i]" [b]Genetic continuum of the Nubians with their kin in southern Egypt[/b] is indicated by comparable frequencies of E-V12 the predominant M78 subclade among southern Egyptians." [Hassan et al. Y-chromosome variation.." Am J. Phy Anthro. v137,3. 316-323 Read more:[/i] Therefore there is no reason to believe that the noted frequency of M2 lineage (around 1/3) seen in those southern "Egypto"-Nubians is different than those in the adjacent northern Sudanese Nubians. From a common sense prospective lets skip Sudan and YOU explain WHY the Hell is the M2 lineage is in the "creme of the crop" of the Nile which is Egypt (said by SOY to have been present in the region since the early Holocene). If you're going to try to derail the Sudanese origin of the population then you have to have an alternative as to explain how the Hell did the M2 lineage and Sickle Cell carrying Negroid populations came into Pre-Dynastic-Dynastic Kemet. you need to explain what migration from what other regios brought that E1b1a (and noted associated traits) that characterized Ramses III and the Amarna period pharaohs into the Nile Valley. [QUOTE] Somehow you think you know those fine detains[/QUOTE]Beyoku what about these fine details. [i]" [b]Nutter (1958) noted affinities between the Badarian and Naqada samples, a feature that Strouhal (1971) attributed to their skulls possessing “Negroid” traits.[/b] Keita (1992), using craniometrics, discovered that the Badarian series is distinctly different from the later Egyptian series, a conclusion that is mostly confirmed here. [b]In the current analysis, the Badari sample more closely clusters with the Naqada sample and the Kerma sample.[/b] However, it also groups with the later pooled sample from Dynasties XVIII–XXV. -- Godde K. (2009) An Examination of Nubian and Egyptian biological distances: Support for biological diffusion or in situ development? Homo. 2009;60(5):389-404."[/i] Beyoku list the other populations of the world with "true Negroid" skeletal morphologies who are not apart of the M2 lineage. Explain whore.. [QUOTE] You then try to school us on Haplogroup R [/QUOTE]I recall referencing the work Dr. Winters, who routinely schools the hell out of y'all on the misconceptions of the population implications of the marker. I also recall all y'all shutting the **** up when he post those facts. ;) You bitch and cackle under your breath (but never directly tackle the scholar's work) and send in your Caucasian agents to try to belittle his work (in absolute futility of course), and support your Hamitic hypothesis with your puppet shows in which you pretend to be the "go to" "Afrocentrics" against the mean Eurocentrics (again a decade long puppet show). [QUOTE] Furthermore you STILL haven't explain why 3000 year old mummies are less Sub Saharan than Egyptian today. [/QUOTE]Melaninated people don't use those terms..You need to explain what in the Hell "Sub Saharan" implies with regards to race and genetics. [IMG]http://oi64.tinypic.com/2hi88ys.jpg[/IMG] The last time I checked the race of the ancient Kemites was decided to be a variety of Africans who are now seen residing in the "Saharo Tropical" regions of Africa. Explain how your implications of those findings changes these anthropological facts (what they actually looked like). [b]The peopling of ancient Kemet and the deciphering of Meroitic script Proceedings of the symposium held in Cairo from 28 January to 3 February 1974[/b] [IMG]http://oi58.tinypic.com/2ik5yea.jpg[/IMG] and the updated version. " [b]There is now a sufficient body of evidence from modern studies of skeletal remains to indicate that the ancient Egyptians, especially southern Egyptians, exhibited physical characteristics that are within the range of variation for ancient and modern indigenous peoples of the Sahara and tropical Africa[/b].. In general, the inhabitants of Upper Egypt and Nubia had the greatest biological affinity to people of the Sahara and more southerly areas." (Nancy C. Lovell, " Egyptians, physical anthropology of," in Encyclopedia of the Archaeology of Ancient Egypt, ed. Kathryn A. Bard and Steven Blake Shubert, ( London and New York: Routledge, 1999) pp 328-332) Negroid, Ethiopic ("Mediterranean"), and Nilotic ("European") See..you agents in line with your revised Hamitic Hypothesis are attempting to allow one field of information (genetics) to obfuscate what has already been deciphered with earlier forms of sciences (anthropology, linguistics, archaeology). Point blank period NO ONE is buying your **** no matter much you try to equate getting down with it as "wising up" (it's the same scenario as the black political agents who promoted integration in the 1960's as "being accepted"). Then as Diop had pointed out arguing with you all on these points is playing in your court. The only thing that is needed to prove whose ancestors came from ancient Kemet or the Nile Valley is to display the cultural and linguistic ties. [IMG]http://oi60.tinypic.com/2ur30gj.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_TFdF--fOnx8/SR_oc_FENzI/AAAAAAAAATk/1-10KhZfbV4/s400/costume1.jpg[/IMG] ^^ That example is SOoo indisputable! They have same reverence for the backbone (relating to the [URL=http://garyosborn.moonfruit.com/the-djed-pillar-and-kundalini/4573032884]Kundalini[/URL] energy that ONLY NEGROES POSSESS) as sacred and perform the same ceremonies. That's only ONE example!! [i]Pharaonic Egyptian - Wolof; (Wolof meaning) Aku - Aku : foreigners (Creole descendants of European traders and African wives) anu - K.enou : pillar atef - ate : a crown of Osiris, judge of the soul (to judge) ba - bei : the ram-god (goat) ben ben - ben ben : overflow, flood bon - bon : evil bu - bu : place bu bon - bu bon : evil place bu nafret - bu rafet : good place da - da : child Djoob - Djob : a surname fero - fari : king itef - itef : father kau - kaou : elevated, above (heaven) kem -khem : black (burnt, burnt black) kemat - kematef : end of a period, completion, limit khekh - khekh : to fight, to wage war, war kher - ker : country (house) lebou - Lebou : those at the stream, Lebou/fishermen Senegal maat - mat : justice mer - maar : love (passionate love) mun - won : buttocks nag - nag : bull (cattle) nak - nak : ox, bull (cow) NDam - NDam : throne neb - ndab : float nen - nen : place where nothing is done (nothingness) nit - nit : citizen Ntr - Twr : protecting god, totem nwt - nit : fire of heaven (evening light) o.k. - wah keh : correct, right onef - onef : he (past tense) ones - ones : she (past tense) Read [/i] Explain why a Wolof in Senegal and ancient Kemite would say MAMA, CHILD, AIR, WATER....(such essential everyday words) in the exact same way. The word MAAT... is in the Wolof language and has the same meaning...but that is REAL and RELEVANT for you agents to discuses. Y'all are running from those facts that logically shuts any counter argument down. That's how I know that a good chunk are participants in a puppet show to keep Caucasiancentrism in the game. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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