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[QUOTE]Originally posted by xyyman: [QB] If we all had the money..... Europeans are not interested in the truth. Even the "liberal" ones. They may be the most treacherous [QUOTE]Originally posted by Tukuler: [qb] If I had time and money I'd finance and resource a team to look into African archaic genome survival s in modern Africans. [QUOTE]Originally posted by Ish Gebor: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Elmaestro: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Ish Gebor: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Cass/: [qb] @ Ish Gebor The "Negroid" morphotype is recent (early Holocene); Iwo Eleru is supposedly the oldest "Negroid" skull (11200 ± 200 BP), but badly damaged. Most the analyses of Iwo Eleru are anthroposcopy (i.e. visual assessment with no measurements), instead of multivariate craniometry. So its questionable if Iwo Eleru is even "Negroid". If you look at the pre-Holocene (Pleistocene) fossil record in Africa: you usually find crania that don't show any close ties to a single living/recent African population. There is a "mosaic" morphology; the skulls are generalized or undifferentiated and contain a mixture of Negroid & Bushmenoid traits/variables. Good examples include Nazlet Khater & Singa. This is why physical anthropologists (Coon, 1962) once erroneously thought Bushmen inhabited the entire continent. The "Caucasoid" and "Mongoloid" morphotypes pre-date the "Negroid". Middle Upper Palaeolithic skulls from Europe (like Cro-Magnon 1) are close[st] to living/recent Europeans. [/qb][/QUOTE]Reread your own statement, see how this makes no sense. :D See how your ignorance is oblivious and bigoted. [/qb][/QUOTE]This is why you must encourage the Opposition to update & make refined arguments rather than reengage in bogus or uninspired & tired debates lol. check it out, in the age of Genetics we know, modern west Africans & Bantus for the most part are not descendant from Forest HG's, pygmy nor Bushmen. If there were no noticeable contemporary African during the Pleistocene, where might they have come from, according to Cass' Model? Mind you, he notes that the mongoloid & Caucasoid like Morphology predates Negroid, I'm guessing he's relying on Multiregionalism... but This model inadvertently clumps some populations together by a common ancestor. [/qb][/QUOTE]The dude implies on revamping the old stuff over-and-over. [IMG]http://i63.tinypic.com/aw93i8.jpg[/IMG] [QUOTE] [b]"This finding is in agreement with morphological data that suggest that populations with sub-Saharan morphological elements were present in northeastern Africa,[/b] from the Paleolithic to at least the early Holocene, and diffused northward to the Levant and Anatolia beginning in the Mesolithic. [...] "From the Mesolithic to the early Neolithic period different lines of evidence support an out-of-Africa Mesolithic migration to the Levant by northeastern African groups that had biological affinities with sub-Saharan populations. From a genetic point of view, several recent genetic studies have shown that sub-Lines: 369 to 3770.0pt PgVar Normal PagePgEnds: TEX [554], Saharan genetic lineages (affiliated with the Y-chromosome PN2 clade; Underhill2 et al. 2001) have spread through Egypt into the Near East, the Mediterranean area, and, for some lineages, as far north as Turkey (E3b-M35 Y lineage; Cinniog¢lu et al. 2004; Luis et al. 2004), probably during several dispersal episodes since the Mesolithic (Cinniog¢lu et al. 2004; King et al. 2008; Lucotte and Mercier 2003;6 Luis et al. 2004; Quintana-Murci et al. 1999; Semino et al. 2004; Underhill et al.7 2001). This finding is in agreement with morphological data that suggest that populations with sub-Saharan morphological elements were present in northeastern Africa, from the Paleolithic to at least the early Holocene, and diffused northward10 to the Levant and Anatolia beginning in the Mesolithic. "Indeed, the rare and incomplete Paleolithic to early Neolithic skeletal specimens found in Egypt—such as the 33,000-year-old Nazlet Khater specimen (Pinhasi and Semal 2000), the Wadi Kubbaniya skeleton from the late Paleolithic site in the upper Nile valley (Wendorf et al. 1986), the Qarunian (Faiyum) early Neolithic crania (Henneberg et al. 1989; Midant-Reynes 2000), and the Nabta specimen from the Neolithic Nabta Playa site in the western desert of Egypt (Henneberg et al. 1980)—show, with regard to the great African biological diversity, similarities with some of the sub-Saharan middle Paleolithic and modern sub-Saharan specimens. [b]This affinity pattern between ancient Egyptians and sub-Saharans has also been noticed by several other investigators (Angel 1972; Berry and Berry 1967, 1972; Keita 1995) and has been recently reinforced by the study of Brace et al. (2005), which clearly shows that the cranial morphology of prehistoric and recent northeast African populations is linked to sub-Saharan populations (Niger-Congo populations). These results support the hypothesis that some of the Paleolithic–early Holocene populations from northeast Africa were probably descendents of sub-Saharan ancestral populations."[/b][/QUOTE]--F X Ricaut · M Waelkens Article: Cranial Discrete Traits in a Byzantine Population and Eastern Mediterranean Population Movements Human Biology 11/2008; 80(5):535-64. DOI:10.3378/1534-6617-80.5.535 · 1.52 Impact Factor [/qb][/QUOTE][/qb][/QUOTE] [/QB][/QUOTE]
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