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[QUOTE]Originally posted by HeartofAfrica: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by the lioness,: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by HeartofAfrica: [qb] What came of this anyways? [/qb][/QUOTE]A problem is this term "North African" there are at least 5 different significant variations of what land falls into that and secondly what genetically gets labeled as "North African" I think the term shouldn't be used at all [/qb][/QUOTE]Exactly, it's confusing and assumes a lot. What does "North African" even entail or even mean genetically, parentally, haplogroup wise? How does it break down? Since "North African" encompasses many ethnic groups, some that relate more to each other and others that do not. Which groups did they test in reference to Modern Egyptians? And which Egyptians did they test besides those in Gurna? Especially if they used previously stored genetic records. Again, it's such an odd umbrella term that may or may not exclude the Tubu people. But does it include Haratin? Or Zenata?. Where is the Fulani in the equation? Even the mixed and non-mixed people's of the Siwa Oasis for that matter. Whom affiliate closely with the Fulani (who also isn't just one singular group). https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22146064/ [IMG]https://i.imgur.com/b1AKv19.png[/IMG] https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21082907/ [IMG]https://i.imgur.com/21RxgUR.png[/IMG] https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1469-1809.2008.00493.x [IMG]https://i.imgur.com/zOO3zL5.png[/IMG] I mean even under the bolded part you highlighted here: [QUOTE]Originally posted by the lioness,: [b]Luis et al. (2004) found that the male haplogroups in a sample of 147 Egyptians were E1b1b (36.1%, predominantly E-M78), J (32.0%), G (8.8%), T(8.2%), and R (7.5%).[/b] E1b1b and its subclades are characteristic of some Afro-Asiatic speakers and are believed to have originated in either the Middle East, North Africa, or the Horn of Africa. Cruciani et al. (2007) suggests that E-M78, E1b1b predominant subclade in Egypt, originated in "Northeastern Africa", which in the study refers specifically to Egypt and Libya[11][12] [/QUOTE]There's caution as to the origin. But of course it would go on to utilize other studies to substantiate, their point to a certain degree, in terms of regional locations. Still i get the feelings that (and I've encountered it) "North African" is just another purposefully, used designation to continue to mean non "Sub-Saharan" and separate. Then once again later on, from Upper Egypt to the Horn. Not just to show that Modern Egyptians (whoever was chosen) may or may not have or be more Greek or Arab. Hence, why we didn't get a full breakdown like you suggested with your examples. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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