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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Hamilcar: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by HeartofAfrica: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Hamilcar: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by HeartofAfrica: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Hamilcar: [qb] this is outdated informations. We do know now that ancient and modern egyptians are mostly middle eastern genetically with small berber and ssa influences. [IMG]https://i.imgur.com/DuZtpFf.png?1[/IMG] [/qb][/QUOTE]Yeah, that's not true. Middle Eastern by what creditable source? Besides Davidsky, using what data set? This must be using that bunk and contradicting Abusir El-Meleq data set from 2017. I really hope not, because that's just silly. http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=010061;p=1 https://osf.io/ecwf3/ [IMG]https://i.imgur.com/2W0YESv.png[/IMG] [/qb][/QUOTE]it's based on some abusir samples and two ancient egyptians burried in Lebanon ... I mean it can't be a coincidence that even modern egyptians share the same genetic profile as these samples. Also it's the only genetic data we have about them so how can you say that it's not true ? [/qb][/QUOTE]Because per the researchers of the Abusir set own words from the study and further peer review from field colleagues (as I linked): [QUOTE]Originally posted by Tukuler: [qb] Though citing other geneticists this figure limits Schu's modern Egypt sampling to the north only. [IMG]https://s8.postimg.cc/jctp39lw5/Schu_crit.png[/IMG] The hi-lited text from the discussion section is a four pronged CYA for expected objections. I can't recall the media or blogs offering it. It's Schuenemann et al's shield against them originating reader implied or even their own explicit claims. [/qb][/QUOTE]This would be like using a burial simple or data set from Iceland, using the another burial data set from a place that was met with invasion or migration from people from Iceland in Africa and claiming that all Africans in that region are European. You can't combine obvious similar groups, that clearly aren't directly related to the Egyptians or there are major caveats to their origin and utilize another simple, that's clearly from the Levant region ala Lebanon. To assume that Modern or Ancient Egyptians were non-African or even Eurasian for that matter. The Africanity of Ancient Egypt: Huggins Lectures by Christopher Ehret: (He talks about the Abusir sample, from 2017) https://youtu.be/S_DD4nmyoss?t=1211 -------------------------------------- You are dabbling in the antithesis of the scientific method. You can't force a Negative with a Positive to create a Positive result. Might as well, come out and state you have an agenda, despite the evidence pointing to origins within Africa. [/qb][/QUOTE]Yes I was aware of this but it doesn't necessarily means that these samples are not egyptian or that they are foreigners. You have no evidence about this. Also what a coincidence that egyptians share the same genetic profile as these samples ...but ok let's wait for some old empire dna results from upper egypt. Also you avoided the fact that two of these samples were not from abusir. Moreover anthropological studies all points to egyptians being caucasoid. Even old empire egyptians portrayed themselves similar to modern egyptians. "africanity" means absolutely nothing all civilizations in Africa are african and not all africans are related to each other. It's not because you have the same level of melanin in your skin that you can claim every civilization you want it doesn't work like that. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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