quote:So shall the king of Assyria lead away the Egyptians prisoners, and the Ethiopians captives, young and old, naked and barefoot, even with their buttocks uncovered, to the shame of Egypt.
Isaiah 20:4
Ish Gebor Member # 18264
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Close thread/
Tukuler Member # 19944
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שמי is Semitic not my name.
The subdued people on the monument are Judahites.
the lioness, Member # 17353
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quote:Originally posted by Ish Gebor: Close thread/
^ again the troll tries to divert the topic of the thread, an Egyptian figurine not an Assyrian relief
the lioness, Member # 17353
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quote:Originally posted by Tukuler: [QB] שמי is Semitic not my name.
יאור עברית: צלמית של שבוי שמי, ידיו קשורות מאחור, ממצרים העתיקה. אסף מוזיאון הכט
^ I put this through the translator and got
"Nile The figurine of a prisoner of my name, his hands tied behind him, from ancient Egypt. Hecht Museum Collection"
^ you're saying it's Semitic not "my name". What do you mean it's semitic?
Also him having his arms bound seems to indicate he's a foreigner. I couldn't find more information about this figurine. Assuming he's Asiatic is it proper to call any Asiatic depicted by the AEs "Semitic" ?
Also slavery is documented in Egyptian records yet the man's arms are bound and the other caption in Hebrew says "prisoner" . I conclude that they may be assuming he was a slave but may just be a prisoner as the Egyptians had both prisoners of war and slaves. Did they turn all their prisoners of war into slaves? I'm not sure about it.
Tukuler Member # 19944
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In the Hebrew language שמי can mean • my name • Semite both are from shem/Shem
Ish Gebor Member # 18264
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quote: Semite (n.) Look up Semite at Dictionary.com 1847, "a Jew, Arab, Assyrian, or Aramaean" (an apparently isolated use from 1797 refers to the Semitic language group), back-formation from Semitic or else from French Sémite (1845), from Modern Latin Semita, from Late Latin Sem "Shem," one of the three sons of Noah (Genesis x.21-30), regarded as the ancestor of the Semites (in old Bible-based anthropology), from Hebrew Shem. In modern sense said to have been first used by German historian August Schlözer in 1781.
—etymonline
Ish Gebor Member # 18264
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quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: Also him having his arms bound seems to indicate he's a foreigner.
Perhaps a foreign people took over? Seems more like it, historically.
quote: Esarhaddon had taken Egypt on his second invasion in 671 BC. When he died, the Egyptians revolted and Ashurbanipal went to Egypt to put down this revolt. He cleared the Delta of the Cushites (Ethiopians) in 667/666 BC and the Cushite ruler, Taharqa, fled to No-Amon. On Ashurbanipal’s first campaign against Egypt he took 22 kings from the seacoast, with their armies, to help fight the Egyptians. Ashurbanipal claims that he “made those kings with their forces (and) their ships accompany me by sea and by land” (Rainey 1993:157). One of those kings was Manasseh, king of Judah, with his army.
British museum says Nubian and Egyptian POWs and captive civvies but I don't think them on the lower far right are Egyptian. Not by the women's clothes nor by the couple men that look to have beards to me.
Tukuler Member # 19944
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quote:Originally posted by the lioness,:
Also slavery is documented in Egyptian records yet the man's arms are bound and the other caption in Hebrew says "prisoner" . I conclude that they may be assuming he was a slave but may just be a prisoner as the Egyptians had both prisoners of war and slaves.
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