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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Mansamusa: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by capra: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Mansamusa: [qb] Man that logic sounds fucked up. The trait is 18 000 years old in the Khoisan, and 13 000 years old in Europeans/ Eurasians. But the Europeans managed to introduce it into Khoisan. How? A prehistoric time machine?[/qb][/QUOTE]*You* don't understand it, doesn't mean it's illogical. Means you need to learn to understand it, or chill out and wait for informed criticism from someone who does. Which would not be xyyman, who is a deeply ignorant bullshitter. No one is claiming that Europeans brought it to South Africa. [i]It probably came from Asia to both Europe and South Africa separately (not that we know the origin for sure of course).[/i] Europeans do not represent all Eurasians. The age of the ancestral haplotype is not the age of introduction in Khoisan. (Well of course Europeans did bring it to South Africa as well but they don't appear to be the main source.) PS Look, when people showed up in South Africa (or Europe) carrying the SLC24A5 derived haplotype they were not all carrying exactly the same version, okay? They were carrying different variations, and the common ancestor of these variations lived 18 000 years ago, give or take umpteen thousand years. That doesn't mean the common ancestor *lived in South Africa*. [/qb][/QUOTE]"It probably came from Asia to both Europe and South Africa separately (not that we know the origin for sure of course)." I think Europeans need to get over themselves seriously. It's a shame that the majority of ancient samples we have so far are from the most unimportant, uninteresting, and frankly useless part of the world in terms of understanding ancient and prehistoric human history--- Western Europe, one of the last places to be populated by humans and which remained outside of ancient history for millenia before the rise of the Greeks and Romans. There is nothing in terms of ancient DNA evidence so far which makes Asia as oppossed to Africa the likely provenance for this genetic adaptation. What the fuck does it mean to go on and on about how Africa has the most diversity in the world and at the same time find it so difficult to admit to simply admit to the possibility that this particular allele developed in Africa as opposed to this weird somewhere, anywhere, except Africa explanation you are trying to articulate here. This is what you are saying, right? You don't know for sure where it orginated, You just know for sure that it did not originate from Africa. Correct me if I'm wrong. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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