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Several YouTube channels are dedicated to Ancient Egypt. Some of them also often discuss the question of the race or skin color of the ancient peoples. Some also discuss other topics.
Here are a few, whereof some have specifically adressed issues of race and identity.
There are of course more YouTube content about Ancient Egypt, including many lectures and videos made by scholars in the field.
But let us begin with the dedicated glad amateurs
Kemet Queen (Nora) Noras channel. Includes videos about Ancient Egypt, but also other aspects on Egypt. She also discusses Netflix Cleopatra in a couple of video. Kemet Queen -- Egyptologist7 Channel dedicated to Ancient Egypt. The Channel is very critical to Afrocentric interpretations of Egyptian history. It often discusses the race of Ancient Egyptians. Egyptologist7 -- Sekhmet Discuses Ancient Egypt, Afrocentrism and racial issues Sekhmet -- The Pharaoh Nerd Dedicated to ancient Egypt The Pharaoh Nerd -- Chief X Often discusses ancient Egypt. Critical to Afrocentric interpretations of Egypts history Chief X -- ShezmuOperative Dedicated to Ancient Egypt and racial issues. Seems to have a negative obsession with Kemet Queen ShezmuOperative -- Kings Monologue Dedicated to Ancient Egypt. Often discuss the race of ancient Egyptians Kings Monologue -- Mr Imhotep Discusses ancient Egypt, racial issues and African cultures Mr Imhotep -
Have you come across any of these channels and their content? What was your opinion?
Are there other channels which are interesting to mention? Which do you recommend?
Djehuti Member # 6698
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^ Yeah, the thing about independent content creators is you have to sift factual information from personal opinions or biases. But yeah other than that, these are good channels.
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avoid the channels that are focused on race and identity
BrandonP Member # 3735
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Honestly, most of those channels listed in the OP look like cringe-fests to me, especially the ones dealing with the race topic. And I am speaking about the ones on both sides of the aisle here.
There is one channel I follow on YouTube that I would recommend, though:
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^ That's why I only watch their stuff on ancient Egyptian history and culture NOT "race". To be honest a lot of those folks do not have a proper grasp on physical anthropology let alone genetics so can easily fall prey to deception on the issue.
Archeopteryx Member # 23193
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Here are a couple of channels with a more scholarly approach
ARCENational The American Research Center in Egypt ARCENational - Harvard Museum of the Ancient Near East Harvard Museum of the Ancient Near East -- Located on the campus of the University of Chicago, ISAC is a research organization and museum devoted to the study of the ancient Middle East.
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Here is video from a youtuber i watch of andon for awhile now called kushroyalty2.0. He is east african(south sudanese american)and he talks about african history(more so the sudans,egypt,north africa and east africa) and dna etc.
We are all one none is more important than the other. These are short videos showing the subsaharan/black presence in North Africa and above. These videos are not to support the afrocentric beliefs that may portray black people as founders of major civilizations, but to show that there was a substantial black/subsaharan presence there ALONG WITH OTHERS who are not labeled black or subsaharan.
What you will see is a collection of scientific articles that reinforces major points. Check out more facts on Quora link https://qr.ae/pGAP1T
Greetings, and welcome! This channel was created because there is a lot of misinformation being spread around the platform whenever it comes to the topics of African history, culture, genetics, linguistics, anthropology and other related fields. Therefore, these visual presentations will serve to educate others about the many diverse peoples that inhabit Africa, as well as diving deep into their respective genomic and cultural heritages. We will also be directly challenging the numerous biased narratives that revolve around these issues. I will to the best of my ability remain objective, and all citations and other relevant data will always be linked as a starting point so others can do their own research!
I'm looking forward to engaging in open and fair dialogue with all those who genuinely desire to learn more and expand their views. _I do not tolerate spam posters whatsoever (Gish gallop fallacy), let's organize our points clearly and discuss one thing at a time, thanks_
quote:Originally posted by beyoku: Afrocentrism Critiqued
Greetings, and welcome! This channel was created because there is a lot of misinformation being spread around the platform whenever it comes to the topics of African history, culture, genetics, linguistics, anthropology and other related fields. Therefore, these visual presentations will serve to educate others about the many diverse peoples that inhabit Africa, as well as diving deep into their respective genomic and cultural heritages. We will also be directly challenging the numerous biased narratives that revolve around these issues. I will to the best of my ability remain objective, and all citations and other relevant data will always be linked as a starting point so others can do their own research!
I'm looking forward to engaging in open and fair dialogue with all those who genuinely desire to learn more and expand their views. _I do not tolerate spam posters whatsoever (Gish gallop fallacy), let's organize our points clearly and discuss one thing at a time, thanks[/qb]
That loser just started trolling me on YouTube this morning. I was able to block them, thankfully. Dude really comes across as the Candace Owens of African anthropology.
UPDATE: Caught the guy bitching about me elsewhere on YouTube (the blocking system only prevents them from posting on your videos), and I decided to give him one and only one piece of my mind.
BrandonP Member # 3735
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And he complained about me again on another video's comments panel. Dude really wants to soil my reputation because I wouldn't put up with his simping for Eurocentrics.
BrandonP Member # 3735
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Sorry, that guy has been a pest to me all day. I've already reported his posts to the YouTube admins, but I don't have much confidence that they will do anything about it.
Djehuti Member # 6698
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^ That's why you have to be careful about who you contact on social media. They may seem cool at first but you never know. Neuroses/psychoses is rampant in social media. Remember Carlos Coke?? LMAO
BrandonP Member # 3735
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quote:Originally posted by Djehuti: ^ That's why you have to be careful about who you contact on social media. They may seem cool at first but you never know. Neuroses/psychoses is rampant in social media. Remember Carlos Coke?? LMAO
Man, is that true.
Askia_The_Great Member # 22000
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quote:Originally posted by BrandonP:
quote:Originally posted by beyoku: Afrocentrism Critiqued
Greetings, and welcome! This channel was created because there is a lot of misinformation being spread around the platform whenever it comes to the topics of African history, culture, genetics, linguistics, anthropology and other related fields. Therefore, these visual presentations will serve to educate others about the many diverse peoples that inhabit Africa, as well as diving deep into their respective genomic and cultural heritages. We will also be directly challenging the numerous biased narratives that revolve around these issues. I will to the best of my ability remain objective, and all citations and other relevant data will always be linked as a starting point so others can do their own research!
I'm looking forward to engaging in open and fair dialogue with all those who genuinely desire to learn more and expand their views. _I do not tolerate spam posters whatsoever (Gish gallop fallacy), let's organize our points clearly and discuss one thing at a time, thanks
That loser just started trolling me on YouTube this morning. I was able to block them, thankfully. Dude really comes across as the Candace Owens of African anthropology.
UPDATE: Caught the guy bitching about me elsewhere on YouTube (the blocking system only prevents them from posting on your videos), and I decided to give him one and only one piece of my mind. [/QB]
What a weirdo. And is he arguing Mansa Musa was North African?
BrandonP Member # 3735
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^ He’s talking about Massinissa, a different person. But yeah, he needs to get over my blocking him and move on.
TBH, it was actually his calling my depiction of ancient Sabaeans "racist" that got under my skin. Does the dude really think it's racist to portray people from ancient southern Arabia as having dark skin as well as visible ancestry from across the Red Sea?
the lioness, Member # 17353
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quote:Originally posted by BrandonP: That loser just started trolling me on YouTube this morning. I was able to block them, thankfully. Dude really comes across as the Candace Owens of African anthropology.
quote:Originally posted by BrandonP: He’s talking about Massinissa, a different person. But yeah, he needs to get over my blocking him and move on.
The guy sounds like Antalas in that claiming that Massinissa would be like Rif Berbers and therefore light-skin. But the problem is since when are all Rif light-skinned??
quote:TBH, it was actually his calling my depiction of ancient Sabaeans "racist" that got under my skin. Does the dude really think it's racist to portray people from ancient southern Arabia as having dark skin as well as visible ancestry from across the Red Sea?
LOL So even indigenous people of southern Arabia are not black either?! Are you sure he's not Antalas?
Archeopteryx Member # 23193
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The YouTube channel Royalty Now tries to reconstruct ancient peoples faces from art and other means. Here is a video about Queen Hatshepsut and how she eventually could have looked like
One can notice that in the comments field some commenters take up the old debate of Hatshepsut´s and other ancient Egyptians eventual skin color, and todays Egyptians ties to the ancient Egypt.
Djehuti Member # 6698
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Another rendition.
Although since Hatshepsut and her family hail from the Thebaid their complexion was likely darker similar to woman below.
Doug M Member # 7650
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quote:Originally posted by Archeopteryx: The YouTube channel Royalty Now tries to reconstruct ancient peoples faces from art and other means. Here is a video about Queen Hatshepsut and how she eventually could have looked like
One can notice that in the comments field some commenters take up the old debate of Hatshepsut´s and other ancient Egyptians eventual skin color, and todays Egyptians ties to the ancient Egypt.
The problem with that reconstruction is the hair which is straight and not locked or braided as seen in most depictions of hair from the ancient Nile Valley and obviously strongly connected to Africa. Showing these people and their reconstructions cannot be taken seriously in any other aspect.
Archeopteryx Member # 23193
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It is interesting to read the comments to the video about Hatshepsut. Seems like the identity wars never stop on social media
quote:@prmans As an Egyptian, and specifically a Copt--I can't tell you how well you nailed the look of native Egyptians. This looks like every woman I attend church with, exactly. Thank you for representing my ancestors as they were and not just making them "white" or "black" but being true to who they actually were and not erasing our identity. -
@Bonita.ch1 Your name is Arabic origin. Nothing relates to Egyptians of that time. During the reign of Umar, the second caliph of the Arabs, Arab armies under the leadership of Amr ibn al-As invaded and conquered Egypt in 639 AD.
You are not Egyptian -
@portiamatthews9654 @Bonita.ch1 well stated and the fact that the language they speak is Arabic and not Egyptian is so telling. They have to have someone else to translate for them their findings. As for black people all around the world will name their children which is coded in our DNA name ending in the "tah" "tay"such as Lakeisha, Moisha, Davonta and etc. -
@prmans @portiamatthews9654 You didn't read my comment. I speak Arabic because the Arabs invaded Egypt--just like the Native Americans speak English. That doesn't make them British.
The language of my ancestors, and a language I still use to this day is the Ancient Egyptian language. And no one else on earth other than the Copts of Egypt, the indigenous and authentic Egyptians, still use the language of Egypt. And you have got to be dreaming if you think Lakeisha and Davonta have anything to do with the Egyptian language or Egypt. Why don't black Americans take a real try and find their own roots in Western and Subsaharan Africa instead of just stealing the culture of the actual Egyptians?
Djehuti Member # 6698
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Seriously Doug, you're going to nitpick about the hair looking straight? I thought it was made apparent to you here that Egyptians and even some Nubians had straighter hair anyway.
As to the reconstruction, it looks like it was based on that one bust. There are multiple busts of Hatshepsut. However, we do have what many believe to be her mummy.
According to the examination, at the time of her death she was obese had several related health issues. So even if she was a real beauty in her youth it didn't last.
Doug M Member # 7650
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quote:Originally posted by Djehuti: Seriously Doug, you're going to nitpick about the hair looking straight? I thought it was made apparent to you here that Egyptians and even some Nubians had straighter hair anyway.
As to the reconstruction, it looks like it was based on that one bust. There are multiple busts of Hatshepsut. However, we do have what many believe to be her mummy.
According to the examination, at the time of her death she was obese had several related health issues. So even if she was a real beauty in her youth it didn't last.
DJ you are not addressing what I actually said and trying hard to act like you are the only one here who knows what you are talking about.
As I said, the tradition of hair portrayals in the Nile Valley was using locks or braids, especially for the women. Whether or not their hair was straighter or not is irrelevant as women in East Africa with straighter hair also still practice the tradition of braiding and locks. So like I said, they always go out of their way in these reconstructions NOT to show them wearing their hair in these traditional African hairstyles as seen in the art of the Nile Valley. You know this yet you cannot stop yourself from such insane comments because yes we have discussed this before.
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Haven't some posters here set up YouTube accounts of their own? I could've sworn Swenet or another ES vet put up a video responding to Bob Brier's claims about ancient Egyptians and Nubians being more different than they actually were, but I can't find the video at the moment.
One channel that a former poster named Morpheus (aka EgalitarianJay or MysticNinjaJay) set up named "PharaohMentuhotep" is still up however:
quote:Originally posted by Doug M: Again, the art of the Nile Valley going back to the old kingdom has always depicted he dynastic people with curly Afro hair with Afro braided hairstyles and wigs.
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