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MansaZevulun
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A couple of years ago I saw a quote from the Ancient Egyptians that said that Shem, Ham, & Japheth had black or dark skin. I'm not 100% sure if the quote was from Ancient Egypt but does anybody know what I'm talking about & could anybody post the qoute if you know about it?
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There is one writing that may indicate the skin color of the three, the book of Hanowk (Enoch). In it, Shem is described as ruddy, Jafet is described with White skin and Ham is described as being Black.

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Jafet was also black. He wasn't pale.
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The question you should ask is: "Did they ever exist"?
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Jafet was White. From the Biblical perspective, he is the predecessor to Europeans.


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Originally posted by MansaZevulun:
Jafet was also black. He wasn't pale.


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quote:
Originally posted by Crush Black Lies:
Jafet was White. From the Biblical perspective, he is the predecessor to Europeans.


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Originally posted by MansaZevulun:
Jafet was also black. He wasn't pale.


The concept of Jafet being white-skinned was created by the European Jews. The first people that inhabited Europe were Africoid. Those people were Jafet's descendants.
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From the Biblical timeline perspective, and for argument's sake Blacks did inhabit Europe prior to Whites, Jafet had arisen in a post-Black Europe era (circa 2300BC). And as I said, I am lending credence to a Black Europe ONLY for argument's sake. By this time, there were no Blacks in Europe. Based on current Science, white skin appeared 10kya. That puts a White Jafet well within a White Europe timeline.


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quote:
Originally posted by Crush Black Lies:
Jafet was White. From the Biblical perspective, he is the predecessor to Europeans.


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Originally posted by MansaZevulun:
Jafet was also black. He wasn't pale.


The concept of Jafet being white-skinned was created by the European Jews. The first people that inhabited Europe were Africoid. Those people were Jafet's descendants.

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Shem, Japheth and Noah were all Caucasoid ('white'), most likely they are rooted in Sumerian and Babylonian historical figures.

There are no Blacks in the Bible, the authors never even knew they existed.

No Negroids appear in the Bible

Paul Heinisch in his History of the Old Testament (1952) notes that the Jews had no knowledge of Negroids ('Blacks') and in regards to the ethnographic table (Gen. x) he clearly points out (p. 32):

''No reference is made to the Indians, Negroes, Mongolians, Malayans, Chinese, Japanese, etc.
The author names only the peoples within his sphere of knowledge.''

Professor William F. Albright also sums up nicely: ''All known ancient races in the region [the biblical world] which concerns us here belonged to the so-called ''White'' or ''Caucasian'' race...'' (cf. ''The Old Testament World'' cited in The Interpreter's Bible, George Arthur Buttrick, ed.).

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^ Show me where Negroes, Chinese, Australian Aborigines are in the Bible please...
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You are correct, Blacks, that is, the Negro, do not exist in the Bible. In the table of nations, the sons of Ham are restricted to Caucasoid regions and peoples of North and East Africa. It is later on during the Roman period of conquest and expansion of the empire, that true Negros were absorbed into the Biblical narrative and placed in the Hamitic line, as the inferior strain. But originally, the Bible table of nations only covered specific regions of the Middle East and Mediterranean, including North and East Africa.


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Originally posted by Anglo_Pyramidologist:
Shem, Japheth and Noah were all Caucasoid ('white'), most likely they are rooted in Sumerian and Babylonian historical figures.

There are no Blacks in the Bible, the authors never even knew they existed.

No Negroids appear in the Bible

Paul Heinisch in his History of the Old Testament (1952) notes that the Jews had no knowledge of Negroids ('Blacks') and in regards to the ethnographic table (Gen. x) he clearly points out (p. 32):

''No reference is made to the Indians, Negroes, Mongolians, Malayans, Chinese, Japanese, etc.
The author names only the peoples within his sphere of knowledge.''

Professor William F. Albright also sums up nicely: ''All known ancient races in the region [the biblical world] which concerns us here belonged to the so-called ''White'' or ''Caucasian'' race...'' (cf. ''The Old Testament World'' cited in The Interpreter's Bible, George Arthur Buttrick, ed.).


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^ All true. Which is why Negroes when they appear in the late Talmudic literature are described as bestiary, they had never been seen before during the older Old Testament literature. I'll look for the quote.
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^Cass and CBL - very well done.

That "SHOULD" prove to the Negroes the utter nonsense of their religious teachings.

But it wouldn't, they're addicted, so kick-um in the head a few more times. Junkies don't care, they just need what they need.

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At this point, I should make mention of the fact that the colors used in the description found in Hanowk are relative to the range of Caucasian skin hue; ie, Pasty (white) - ruddy/tawny (red) - swarthy (black) white skin.
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Damn CBL, in typical Albino fashion, you had to stretch the lie too far.

Damn boy, even a Negro can figure out that "swarthy (black) white skin" makes no sense.

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^Swarthy skin of a White person is what I meant.
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Poor Anglopyramid and crush black lie you are going to be very dissapointed .The whole bible is made up of black people more precisely black African tribes .All the name in the bible can be trace to black African tribes in Nigeria,Ghana and West Africa .You may find some mulato and pale minority in palestine at that time but 80% of the people were black.
Black African from West Africa created Ancient Egypt and exiled religious dissident from Egypt settled in Palestine.
Dont take the bible literaly/historicaly it is mainly astrotheology,spirituality,mythology,symbology, corrupted history etc .

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quote:
Originally posted by Anglo_the dumbo:
^ Show me where Negroes, Chinese, Australian Aborigines are in the Bible please...

Show me where the word cacasoid is in the bible, rather the TORAH? looooool

Dumb DORK!!!!!

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quote:
Originally posted by Anglo_pisspot:
^ All true. Which is why Negroes when they appear in the late Talmudic literature are described as bestiary, they had never been seen before during the older Old Testament literature. I'll look for the quote.

The (babylonian) Talmud is a recent scripture by Khazarian descended, who have nothing to do with the ancient scripture of the TORAH and the ORIGINAL HEBREWS!!!!


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North Africa, a place you've never been to. You basement rat!

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quote:
Originally posted by Crushed Black WHITE Lies:
^Swarthy skin of a White person is what I meant.

Stupid AshkeNazi. The Yeddish references on the swarthy. The man with the beard is referred to as swarthy, people like him and darker. In the traditional Jewish context.


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Etymology of the word:

schvartze

"black person" (somewhat derogatory), 1961, from Yiddish, from schvarts "black" (see swarthy). Perhaps originally a code word to refer to black servants when they were within earshot, as Ger. cognate Schwarze apparently was in the mid-19c.:

In Baltimore in the 80s of the last century, the German-speaking householders, when they had occasion to speak of Negro servants in their presence, called them die Blaue (blues). In the 70s die Schwartze (blacks) had been used, but it was believed that the Negroes had fathomed it. [H.L. Mencken, "The American Language," Supplement I, 1945]


swarthy
1580s, unexplained alteration of swarty (1570s), from swart + -y (2).



swart
O.E. sweart "black," from P.Gmc. *swartaz (cf. O.Fris., M.Du. swart, O.N. svartr, Ger. schwarz, Goth. swarts "dark-colored, black"), from PIE base *swordo- "dirty, dark, black" (source of sordid). The true Gmc. word for "black," surviving in the Continental languages.

Let me remind you, you are not related to the ancient Hebrews. Nasty lying Khazar.

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quote:
Originally posted by Crushed Black WHITE Lies:
You are correct, Blacks, that is, the Negro, do not exist in the Bible. In the table of nations, the sons of Ham are restricted to Caucasoid regions and peoples of North and East Africa. It is later on during the Roman period of conquest and expansion of the empire, that true Negros were absorbed into the Biblical narrative and placed in the Hamitic line, as the inferior strain. But originally, the Bible table of nations only covered specific regions of the Middle East and Mediterranean, including North and East Africa.


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Originally posted by Anglo_Pisspot:
Shem, Japheth and Noah were all Caucasoid ('white'), most likely they are rooted in Sumerian and Babylonian historical figures.

There are no Blacks in the Bible, the authors never even knew they existed.

No Negroids appear in the Bible

Paul Heinisch in his History of the Old Testament (1952) notes that the Jews had no knowledge of Negroids ('Blacks') and in regards to the ethnographic table (Gen. x) he clearly points out (p. 32):

''No reference is made to the Indians, Negroes, Mongolians, Malayans, Chinese, Japanese, etc.
The author names only the peoples within his sphere of knowledge.''

Professor William F. Albright also sums up nicely: ''All known ancient races in the region [the biblical world] which concerns us here belonged to the so-called ''White'' or ''Caucasian'' race...'' (cf. ''The Old Testament World'' cited in The Interpreter's Bible, George Arthur Buttrick, ed.).


LOL at this hilarious dumb, Haitian impostor!

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quote:
Originally posted by Troll Patrol:
quote:
Originally posted by Anglo_the dumbo:
^ Show me where Negroes, Chinese, Australian Aborigines are in the Bible please...

Show me where the word cacasoid is in the bible, rather the TORAH? looooool

Dumb DORK!!!!!

The Old Testament was written in the Middle-East (Western Asia). This is the Caucasoid belt.

Western Asians are not Negroids ("Blacks"), don't bother lying to yourself. Look at the geographical setting of the Bible, it doesn't deal with African lands inhabited by Negroes.

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quote:
Originally posted by Anglo_pisspot:
quote:
Originally posted by Troll Patrol:
quote:
Originally posted by Anglo_the dumbo:
^ Show me where Negroes, Chinese, Australian Aborigines are in the Bible please...

Show me where the word cacasoid is in the bible, rather the TORAH? looooool

Dumb DORK!!!!!

The Old Testament was written in the Middle-East (Western Asia). This is the Caucasoid belt.

Western Asians are not Negroids ("Blacks"), don't bother lying to yourself. Look at the geographical setting of the Bible, it doesn't deal with African lands inhabited by Negroes.

LOL AT it doesn't deal with African lands... "by Negroes"...LOL

Just in the other post, the Bible dealt with East Africans....lol

You are dumber than expected! The biblical lands deal with people of Hg E* and J* origin. The people of the Middle East are a mixture of Asiatics and Africans!

And NO the Bible wasn't written in West Asia!lol


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HAM = AFRICANS


Khaled K Abu-Amero et al.

Mitochondrial DNA structure in the Arabian Peninsula


Two potential migratory routes followed by modern humans to colonize Eurasia from Africa have been proposed. These are the two natural passageways that connect both continents: the northern route through the Sinai Peninsula and the southern route across the Bab al Mandab strait.


Recent archaeological and genetic evidence have favored a unique southern coastal route. Under this scenario, the study of the population genetic structure of the Arabian Peninsula, the first step out of Africa, to search for primary genetic links between Africa and Eurasia, is crucial.


The haploid and maternally inherited mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) molecule has been the most used genetic marker to identify and to relate lineages with clear geographic origins , as the African Ls and the Eurasian M and N that have a common root with the Africans L3.


"Particularly, Yemen has the largest contribution of L lineages (30). So, most probably, this area was the entrance gate of a portion of these lineages in prehistoric times, which participated in the building of the primitive Arabian population."


Ever wondered why they call them "sand n!gg@rs"?

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It's obvious you aren't educated, despite of you claiming to be a student in anthropology at some obscure prestige university. lol

Stop confusing Khazarians with ancient Hebrews, and the caucasus region with other parts of the world, dorky!

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So nobody knew the quote?
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MansaZevulun - I take it that you still don't understand that there was no Shem, Ham, & Japheth; it's made up bullsh1t! Get a clue - please!
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MansaZevulun - By way of explanation.

The Hebrews were what we call an Amorite people, they came from Anatolia (Turkey).
They all left Anatolia as marauders, one group went east into Sumer, the other went west into Canaan (Israel).
The group that went east usurped the Akkadians and established a Babylonian dynasty under Hamurabi.

About 250 years later the Sumerians booted them out, and they joined up with those in Canaan and Egypy
to establish the Hyksos dynasty in northern Egypt.

After the Egyptians booted them out, they took over Canaan - except the Phoenician cities.
Contrary to popular belief, the Hebrew religion was not what most Hebrews followed,
they mostly followed the Canaanite religion which had EL as the supreme God, and Baal, his son, as the second God.

You might note that Israel means "God (EL) contented" in the CANAANITE language.
Many Hebrew names follow the same pattern; (God = EL)

Michael - he who is like God,
Daniel - God is my judge,
Gabriel - strong man of God,
Gamaliel - benefit of God,
Hazael - one that sees God,
Emmanuel - God is with us,
Ishmael - God will hear.


Here are some Egyptian names for their neighbors.

The Heka-Khaswt (Hyksos) - Amorite Mesopotamians in Northern Egypt.

The Libu, Tjemehand, Meshwesh - Libyans

The Habiru - Hebrews

The Peleset and Tjeker (Minoans) of Crete - they would later be known as the “Philistines”.

The Lukka who may have come from the Lycian region of Anatolia.

The Ekwesh and Denen who seem to be identified with the original (Black) Greeks.

The Shardana (Sherden) who may be associated with Sardinia.

The Teresh (Tursha or Tyrshenoi), the Tyrrhenians - the Greek name for the Etruscans.

The Shekelesh may be Sicilians.

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MansaZevulun and all who are interested in religion. You might want to keep in mind that the religion that you know,
was written in 1611 as the King James Bible.

The actual FIRST Bible, The Greek Septuagint, was long ago destroyed by those who didn't like what it said.
The Dead Sea Scrolls are likely similar to it, and that's why the Khazar Jews and the White Catholics will never allow it to see the light of day.

The history of the Bible is here:

http://realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancient/Misc/The_Bible2.htm

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^As a demonstration of how popular the Canaanite religion was with Hebrews.

the Phoenician kingdom of Tyre, was made an ally of Israel through the marriage of Omri's son Ahab, to the Tyrian princess Jezebel.

However, the establishment of a temple to the pagan god Baal (one of the main Canaanite gods), for Jezebels use. And Jezebels attempts to spread the cult of Baal, aroused great opposition on the part of the zealous Yahwists (Yahway - the Hebrew name for God), among the common people. There was also resentment at the despotic manner of Ahabs rule, which was though to have been incited by Jezebel. She and her cult were challenged by the prophet Elijah - One of Elijah's disciples Elisha, organized the slaughter of Jezebel, Ahab and the whole royal family, as well as all worshippers of Baal. This put a stop to the Baalist threat. "Jehu" Elisha's co-conspirator, and Jehoram's general, who had led this massacre. Became king and established a dynasty that lasted almost a century (842–745 B.C.), the longest in the history of Israel.


From the Black Obelisk of Shalmaneser II

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^Forget the mysticism stuff - study "History"!


The “Philistines” - formerly the Peleset and Tjeker (Minoans) of Crete.


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^^^^ These crude and worn "Philitia" coins could be any number of ethnicities.
They don't resemble the unmistakably African man on this coin:
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Coins with a black man on one side
and an elephant on the other are not of
Carthaginian mint and were very small
change from the Chiana Valley, central Italy, Tuscany
Traditional attribution of the issue to 217 BC, as representing the
propaganda of Hannibal’s approach to Etruria, was modified by Robinson (Hannibal died 24 year prior in 183 BC)
(op. cit.), who saw it as a provocative seditious type of Arretium,
which was in a state of high tension with Rome in 209/8, in the hoped
for arrival of Hasdrubal from Spain with reinforcements. However, the
reverse depicts an Indian rather than African elephant with a bell
around its neck reminiscent of the elephant/saw aes signatum issue
(Crawford 9/1) of about 250-240 BC and associated with the battle of
Maleventum (soon to be called Beneventum) in 275 BC when the captured
elephants of Pyrrhus were brought to Rome in triumph. A similar Indian
elephant is also depicted as a symbol on the Tarantine nomos issue
(Vlasto 710-712), indicating the presence of Pyrrhus in the city in
282-276. The Barcid coinage of New Carthage (Villaronga CNH, pg. 65,
12-15) and that of Hannibal in Sicily (SNG Cop. 382) clearly depict
African elephants belonging to the elephant corps from about 220 BC.
As Maria Baglione points out in "Su alcune parallele di bronzo
coniato," Atti Napoli 1975, pg.153-180, the African/elephant issue
shares control marks with other cast and struck Etruscan coins

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It has been suggested that the Casluhite Philistines
formed part of the "Sea Peoples"
who repeatedly attacked Egypt
during the later Nineteenth Dynasty.
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Sea people reliefs at Medinet Habu and Karnak,

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It has been theorized that the
latter Philistines originated among
the "Sea Peoples". Modern archaeology has also suggested early cultural links with the
Mycenaean world in Greece.
Though the Philistines adopted
local Canaanite culture and
language before leaving any written texts (and later adopted the Aramaic language), an Indo-European
origin has been suggested for a handful of known Philistine words that survived as loanwords
in Hebrew.The connection between Mycenaean culture and Philistine culture was made
clearer by finds at the excavation of Ashdod, Ekron, Ashkelon, and more recently Gath,
four of the five Philistine cities in Canaan.
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Nice ancient picture of black Jew with side lock and yarmulka .Those five East African leaders look like Ancient Egyptian Pharaoh .According to Sigmund Freud and M Gadalla the historical Moses was Pharaoh Akhenaton .The original Hebrew were the exile Egyptian and EgyptianHyksos Atonist follower of Akhenaton .
The oldest Jewish city in Egypt is the city of Malawi or Malevi meaning the city of the Levite located near Aketaten capital city of Akhenaton.The Levite were priest of Akhenaton .

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mena7 - There are no artifacts of Hebrews with side locks, that is a Khazar tradition, what are you referring to?
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Sidelock of Youth, Luxor

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Tomb of Horemheb, realhistory.com

 - Yemenite-Jewish community

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^Apparently the Jewish and general Albino media has some really confused. It is also apparent that common sense is not so common.

Lets break it down:

Khazars are Albino Turks formerly of the kingdom of Khazaria in the Caucasus region. In the 8th Century, the Khazars converted to the Hebrew religion and made Judaism the State religion. “Itil” the Khazar capital in the Volga delta, was a great commercial center. The Khazar Empire fell, when Sviatoslav, duke of Kiev (945–72), son of Igor and of St. Olga, defeated its army in 965 A.D.


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THE FOLLOWING ARE "KHAZAR" TRADITIONS!


Payot (also pe'ot, peyot, payos, peyos; Hebrew: singular ,פֵּאָה ;plural ,פֵּאוֹת‎) is the Hebrew word for sidelocks or sidecurls. Payot are worn by some men and boys in the Orthodox Jewish community based on an interpretation of the Biblical injunction against shaving the "corners" of one's head. Literally, pe'ah means corner, side or edge. There are different styles of payot among Haredi, Yemenite, and Hasidic Jews. Yemenite Jews call their sidelocks simonim Hebrew: סִימָנִים‎, literally signs, because their long curled sidelocks served as a distinguishing feature in Yemenite society (distinguishing them from their non-Jewish neighbors).
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A kippah or kipa, is a hemispherical or platter-shaped cap, usually made of cloth, often worn by Orthodox Jewish men to fulfill the customary requirement held by some orthodox halachic authorities that their head be covered at all times, and usually worn by men and, less frequently, women in Conservative and Reform communities at times of prayer.

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The tallit katan ("small tallit") is a fringed garment traditionally worn either under or over one’s clothing by Jewish males. It is a poncho-like garment with a hole for the head and special twined and knotted fringes known as tzitzit attached to its four corners. The requirements regarding the fabric and fringes of a tallit katan are the same as that of a tallit gadol. Generally a tallit katan is made of wool or cotton.

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A shtreimel (Yiddish: שטרײַמל, pl. שטרײַמלעך shtreimlech) is a fur hat worn by many married haredi Jewish men, particularly (although not exclusively) members of Hasidic groups, on Shabbat and Jewish holidays and other festive occasions.[1] In Jerusalem, the shtreimel is also worn by 'Yerushalmi' Jews (non-Hasidim who belong to the original Ashkenazi community of Jerusalem, also known as Perushim). The shtreimel is generally worn only after marriage, except in many Yerushalmi communities, where boys wear it from their bar mitzvah.


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^NOW LETS LOOK AT REAL HEBREWS!


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Relief of Levantine Prisoners

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mena7 - Do you see anything here that is even REMOTELY similar to the Albino nonsense that I posted previously????

COME-ON PEOPLE - WAKE THE FUCH UP!

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Libyan form tomb of Rameses III

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the above two pictures similar hairstyle to Libyan- sidelock


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________________________________________^^^ Mike what's your point?

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quote:
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Libyan form tomb of Rameses III

As we all know, REAL Egyptian Tiles were glazed like this:

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So no telling what that is.

But it is an Excellent example of Albino forgeries Lioness, so thank you.

As to Libyans:

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quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
MansaZevulun - I take it that you still don't understand that there was no Shem, Ham, & Japheth; it's made up bullsh1t! Get a clue - please!

I wasn't asking you. And I wasn't asking rather or not Shem, Ham, & Japheth were real. GET A CLUE!
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quote:
Originally posted by MansaZevulun:
quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
MansaZevulun - I take it that you still don't understand that there was no Shem, Ham, & Japheth; it's made up bullsh1t! Get a clue - please!

I wasn't asking you. And I wasn't asking rather or not Shem, Ham, & Japheth were real. GET A CLUE!
I see that you are ignorant on many accounts:

It doesn't work like that, this is an open forum, a post is addressable to everyone. If you want to communicate with only specific people you must use the PM function.

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Lioness - Your effort to steer the conversation away from Khazars and Hebrews was noted.

I obliged only because the Albino Libyan nonsense, like the Albino Hebrew nonsense, needed to be addressed.

A question for you:

Is there ANY people for whom Albinos do not have FAKE artifacts depicting them as Albinos?

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quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
^NOW LETS LOOK AT REAL HEBREWS!


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Negroes are often such silly people.
Too lazy or stupid to keep their own history, too lazy or stupid to research what they are interested in;
so they depend on the Albino to tell them about it.

The same Albino who has been robbing them of their property and history for centuries.

Negroes are just not very bright.

These people give new meaning to the term "Black Sheep".


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quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:

side locks, that is a Khazar tradition

The sidelock is an unusual hairstyle for men.
As we can see it goes back to the ancient Libyans although their was braided rather than curled
The similarity is not surpising since Libyans neighbor Egyptians and Egyptians neighbor Israelites
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“A splendid synagogue from the
Talmudic period was unearthed
recently during excavations at
Khirbet Hukuk in the northwestern Galilee
on the site where a Jewish community
existed between the fourth and sixth centuries C.E.“

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^Talmudic period????

What's that?

Well, lets see if I can find out what that is.


The Talmud "instruction, learning", from a root lmd "teach, study") is a central text of mainstream Judaism, considered second to the holy written Torah. It takes the form of a record of rabbinic discussions.

The whole Talmud is over 6,200 pages long, written in Aramaic and quotes the Hebrew Bible at least once a page with the Hebrew version in use at the time. The Talmud contains the opinions of thousands of rabbis, many of whom are left unnamed, on a variety of subjects, including law, ethics, philosophy, customs, history, theology, lore and many other topics. The rabbis often argue with one another in a civilized manner on the pages. The Talmud has two components: the Mishnah (Hebrew: משנה)(c. 200 CE), the first written compendium of Judaism's Oral Law; and the Gemara (c. 500 CE), an elucidation of the Mishnah and related Tannaitic writings that often ventures onto other subjects and expounds broadly on the Hebrew Bible.

The terms Talmud and Gemara are often used interchangeably. The Gemara is the basis for all codes of rabbinic law and is much quoted in other rabbinic literature. The whole Talmud is also traditionally referred to as Shas (ש״ס), a Hebrew abbreviation of shisha sedarim, the "six orders" of the Mishnah.

The Talmud withstood long periods of censorship and burnings, some medieval rabbis claimed the Talmud was the most censored and forcefully controlled book of the time.


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Okay Lioness, lets see what history says about those times.


Hebrew Persecution

In 130 A.D. The Roman Emperor Hadrian planned a great temple to Zeus in the newly founded city of Aelia Capitolina, which was on the ruined site of Jerusalem. Moreover, Hadrian had recently outlawed circumcision. these Romanizing acts of the government, easily ignited the second great revolt of the Hebrews against Rome. This was the Bar Cochba or Kochba, (nickname for Simon - (Son of the Star), Revolt of 132 to 135 A.D, which was led by Simon ben Kosiba, (Simon son of Kosiba). Once again the Romans raised an enormous army to put down the revolt. Hadrian personally led the Roman attack on the rebels.

In the aftermath of the Bar Cochba Revolt, the Romans excluded Hebrews from a large area around Aelia Capitolina, which Romans only inhabited. The province now hosted two legions and many auxiliary units, two colonies, and a new name, "Syria Palaestina" to replace Judaea. The center of Hebrew settlement moved northward to Galilee and Gaulanitis. The number of Hebrew communities elsewhere declined, and many once Hebrew towns became Roman or received large numbers of Roman inhabitants. The towns lost their old Hebrew names for new Roman names. The ban on circumcision remained in effect until Antoninus Pius, who recognizing its dangerously provocative effect, revoked it.

After 135 A.D. Hebrews no longer had political, urban, or territorial institutions that could support another revolt, but they managed to maintain national identity as a result of the growth of rabbinical institutions and the patriarchate in Galilee. Poverty, famine, plague, and crime left the Hebrews too weak to mount any organized resistance.

The new state of Syria Palaestina thus became a good deal less problematic for the Roman government than Judaea had been. The government continued to permit the Hebrews certain religious freedoms, such as exemption from the imperial cult, and gradually the Roman governors permitted the Hebrews to recover certain of their communal rights, such as local courts and internal government, under the overall authority of the patriarch in Tiberias. The Samaritans (a sect practicing a strict and uncompromising version of the Hebrew religion), fared less well, as the Romans took steps to prevent a resurgence of Samaritan nationalism by founding a pagan temple on Mt Gerizim, just south of Neapolis, and refused to make concessions to Samaritan religious practices.

The conversion of Emperor Constantine to Christianity in about 300 A.D. set in motion events that made Palestine a major center of the Christian church. Before the fifth century A.D. very few Christians lived in Palestine. The non-Hebrew regions of the coast, the south, and Aelia Capitolina had several Roman and Greek Christian communities, and a few Minim (Hebrew Christians) lived in such Galilean towns as Sepphoris and Capernaum.

But beginning in the fourth century the government responded to Roman Christian interest in the Holy Land; by embarking on a massive program of patronage, especially church-building, that was designed to encourage Christians to move to Palestine. There was also an imperial policy geared to encourage Hebrews to convert to Christianity; this by offering protection and rewards.

As a result of Christian settlement in the vicinities of Nazareth, Capernaum, and Tabgha, the region of Galilee lost its Hebrew majority. By about 400 A.D. there were ninety six Christian communities in Palestine. The sack of Rome in 410 A.D. caused a new round of migration to Palestine as a group of aristocratic Romans responded to Jerome's invitation to settle in Aelia Capitolina and Bethlehem, (Jerome was a Caucasian born in Stridon (a city in modern Croatia), he was probably of Turkish/Khazar ethnicity, he was later canonized a Saint by the catholic Church. In addition, numerous Christians came to Palestine not to settle but to visit holy sites on pilgrimage and to scour the land for relics to take home.

On the other hand, the Hebrew population saw a constant and precipitous drop that lasted for centuries. In the second century, after the Bar Cochba Revolt, some two hundred Hebrew communities flourished in Palestine, but by the time of the Arab conquest in the late 630s we know of fewer than fifty. Except in the towns of Tiberias and Sepphoris and in the regions east of the Sea of Galilee, the Hebrews had become a minority in their own country.

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I dunno Lioness, it seems to me that at that time, the Hebrews were busy just trying to survive. I just don't see how Rabbis would have time to argue among themselves over minutia, with all of that murder, mayhem, and genocide going on.

Hmmm Lioness, I think that I'm going to have to chalk that up to just more Albino lie and myth.

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^Err, a certain embarrassment here.
I don't know, maybe listening to Albino lies and bullsh1t all the time, numbs the brain to Albino lies and bullsh1t, so that it becomes somewhat plausible at times. Thus I stupidly responded to your post in a serious manner.

Lioness, the Hebrews were practicing their religion for 1,500 - 2,000 years. Why would they need to sit down and try to figure out what it's rules were at the start of the modern era?

I have no excuses for not realizing that immediately. Like I said, brain numb by Albino lie and bullsh1t.

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Obviously the "Talmudic period" refers specifically to the period when the Turkish Khazars were trying to interpret the Hebrew scriptures. Since the Khazars didn't convert until circa 700 A.D. the timeframe of the "Talmudic period" is another Albino lie.

Question:

Why didn't the Khazars just ASK the Hebrews what the rules of their religion were?

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^Hmmm, wonder if the Seljuk Turks of the Ottoman Empire, did the same thing to the Arab religion.
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quote:
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Originally posted by Mike111:
MansaZevulun - I take it that you still don't understand that there was no Shem, Ham, & Japheth; it's made up bullsh1t! Get a clue - please!

I wasn't asking you. And I wasn't asking rather or not Shem, Ham, & Japheth were real. GET A CLUE!
I see that you are ignorant on many accounts:

It doesn't work like that, this is an open forum, a post is addressable to everyone. If you want to communicate with only specific people you must use the PM function.

Nice try, but I was asking people who knew about the quote. You don't. And you don't even believe that Shem, Ham, & Japheth existed. [Roll Eyes] So why the hell are you even in this forum & why do you keep coming back? You obviously came here to start some sh!t. [Roll Eyes] So I wasn't asking you.
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^Get used to it sonny:
You posted a nonsense question, but it led to serious discussions on serious subjects.

Once you post, it is no longer yours - I thought that I had explained that to you.

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Mikey boy White people hating,lying, history stealing, Black racist, Black supremacist scum. You are no one to talk about lying, you are one of the biggest liars of them all.
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^So Lioness, now that I have explained the circumstance to you, what are we to make of this picture?


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It's certainly NOT the picture of a Hebrew, an Albino or mulatto Greek or Roman perhaps?
Romans are certainly known for doing tile-work like this.
It would be helpful if we could see the picture on the left to put it in context.

Ya, it's tough to know, Albinos lie so much about everything, that there is just no way of knowing.

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Mikey boy White people hating,lying, history stealing, Black racist, Black supremacist scum. You are no one to talk about lying, you and your cohorts are the biggest liars of them all. Trying to steal other people's histories, heritages, identities, homelands out of hatred.
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^ LOL, what comes around, goes around.

You Albinos never have an understanding of Cause & Effect, or the short/Long term ramifications of your actions.
Hoe, the chickens have come home to roost.

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