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quote:
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↑Precisely, admixture works both ways.↓ ;-)

Yep, and this is why the Northern part of Egypt like the Delta has mostly admixture Hg J* . Unlike Middle- and South Egypt.

Although what I am showing is ANCIENT ROOT!


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More Darkskinned Asiatics..


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Face of a Canaanite man (fragment) from Beth Shan Painting on a jar (about 1300 BCE)


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Head of two Bedouins from Syria(Canaan)

RAMESSES III/USERMAATRE-MERIAMUN


Notice that both have similar Hair styles, a Braided style pulled back but the first "Bedouin" is a Darker Brown while the latter is a Reddish Brown.

Lower part of a Kneeling Bedouin..

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Notice the clothing..


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Christ and the Apostles, Domitilla Catacombs, Rome.

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Troll Patty tell us why his hair is not all straight

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Troll Patty tell us why his hair is not all straight

That is something you need to explain..this is what we all have been waiting for.lol


which is consistent with a mixture of either West African or East African ancestors or both contributing to the African ancestry in West Eurasians (Table S14; Figure S13). Historically, a mixture of West and East African ancestry is plausible, since African gene flow into West Eurasia is documented from both West Africa during Roman times [34] and from East Africa during migrations from Egypt [7]. It is important to point out, however, that the difficulty of pinpointing the exact African source population is not expected to bias our inferences about the total proportion and date of mixture. The f4 Ancestry Estimation method is unbiased even when we use a poor surrogates for the true ancestral African population (as long as the phylogeny is correct), as we confirmed by repeating analyses replacing YRI with LWK, and obtaining similar results (Table S15).Our ROLLOFF admixture date estimates are also similar whether we use LWK or YRI to represent ancestral African population (Table S15), as predicted by the theory. --Moorjani et al.


"Both skeletal/cranial and DNA studies by other authors confirm that some Neolithics did not derive from the Near East. They most likely resembled African populations. Hence comparisons using older European Neolithics versus Africans are comparisons with older prehistoric Europeans who looked more like Africans, than modern 'white' Europeans, as shown by Brace (2005), and Hanihara (1996) also, who states "Early West Asians looked like Africans."



—PN2 clade (E3) bearers in the vicinity of the Sudanese-Central African Republic -Ugandan-Kenyan region give rise to E3a ~ between 21 and 18 ky ago [pending additional or new info]; E3b-M35* would have likely arose relatively earlier than E3a*[as evidenced by its near absence in some the populations that carry this], sometime prior to the Ogolian and the LGM period. At this time, it was likely the M78 derivative that came about ~ between 19 and 15 ky ago. It was also likely during this period, that some E3b-M35 variants spilled over to the "southwest Asia", which would be identified as E-M34. The E-M78* likely arose somewhere in the bidirectional-migration route between Northeast and sub-Saharan East Africa; this location was likely in the region straddling upper Egypt and Sudan of the eastern Sahara, amongst earlier E-M35 migrants from sub-Saharan East Africa. These M78 bearers were increasingly pressured to move further south due to progressive aridity, possibly as far as Uganda-Kenya and/or Tanzanian general region.

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quote:
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Originally posted by the lioness:
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Originally posted by Troll Patrol:
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They also carry the particular Cohanim-gene in highest frequency.


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Ashkenazi Jews have significant frequencies of Cohanim-gene

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^^^^ Troll you realize that this means that your claim that Ashkenazi are all Khazar converts is false and we are just coasting on your wrongness here.

keep in mind Muslims of Africa are "converts"

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quote:
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Originally posted by the lioness:
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Troll Patty tell us why his hair is not all straight

That is something you need to explain..this is what we all have been waiting for.lol
Troll you will have to take this as a loss


obviously you are afraid to answer the question

it's ok I won't bite you, you can come out now

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quote:
Originally posted by the lioness:
quote:
Originally posted by Troll Patrol:
quote:
Originally posted by the lioness:
quote:
Originally posted by Troll Patrol:
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They also carry the particular Cohanim-gene in highest frequency.


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Ashkenazi Jews have significant frequencies of Cohanim-gene

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^^^^ Troll you realize that this means that your claim that Ashkenazi are all Khazar converts is false and we are just coasting on your wrongness here.

keep in mind Muslims of Africa are "converts"

I am waiting for you to explain why the Lemba don't have cacasoid features? When is this going to happen?lol

THEY CARRY YOUR PRECIOUS CACASOID Cohen GENE Hg J in the highest frequency? I guess mathematics is not your strongest point. Just like a few months ago.

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Christ and the Apostles, Domitilla Catacombs, Rome.

Romans altered the Bible? LOOOOL


The Romans Destroy the Templeat Jerusalem, 70 AD

THEN A PORTION OF THEM CONVERTED!!!!


Avshalom Zoossmann-Diskin1,2,3 et al.

1 Department of Haematology and Genetic Pathology, School of Medicine, Flinders University, Adelaide, Australia
2 Department of Human Genetics, Sackler Faculty of Medicine, Tel-Aviv University, Israel
3 Current Address: Blood Bank, Sheba Medical Center, Ramat-Gan 52621, Israel

"The origin of Eastern European Jews revealed by autosomal, sex chromosomal and mtDNA polymorphisms"


The origin of Eastern European Jews, (EEJ) by far the largest and most important Ashkenazi population, and their affinities to other Jewish and European populations are still not resolved.


Studies that compared them by genetic distance analysis of autosomal markers to European Mediterranean populations revealed that they are closer to Europeans than to other Jewish populations [1-3].

In contrast, according to the Y-chromosomal haplogroups EEJ are closest to the non-Jewish populations of the Eastern Mediterranean (table 3, figure 4).


"EEJ are the largest and most investigated Jewish community, yet their history as Franco-German Jewry is known to us only since their appearance in the 9th century, and their subsequent migration a few hundred years later to Eastern Europe [4,5]. Where did these Jews come from? It seems that they came to Germany and France from Italy [5-8].


It is also possible that some Jews migrated northward from the Italian colonies on the northern shore of the Black Sea [9]. All these Jews are likely the descendents of proselytes.

Conversion to Judaism was common in Rome in the first centuries BC and AD. Judaism gained many followers among all ranks of Roman Society [10-13]."


The autosomal genetic distance analysis presented here clearly demonstrates that the investigated Jewish populations do not share a common origin.


The resemblance of EEJ to Italians and other European populations portrays them as an autochthonous European population.


**The demographic histories of three Jewish populations exemplify how different demographic patterns make the uniparental markers more reliable for Iraqi (Babylonian) Jews and Yemenite Jews and less reliable for EEJ. Both Yemenite Jews and Iraqi Jews resemble populations from their regions of origin according to autosomal markers [1,3,30-32].


**Babylonian Jews numbered more than a million in the first century AD [35], and constituted the majority of the population in the area between the Euphrates and the Tigris in the 2nd-3rd centuries AD [36]. Gilbert [37] estimates that by 600 AD there were 806,000 Jews in Mesopotamia, and according to Sassoon [38] it was inhabited by about a million Jews in the 7th century. In the 14th century the estimates for Baghdad alone range from 70,000 to hundreds thousands [38].

*By comparing the structure of the STRs network among the various Ashkenazi populations and among the various European non-Jewish populations they reached the conclusion that a single male founder introduced this haplogroup into Ashkenazi Jews in the first millennium.

http://www.biology-direct.com/content/5/1/57


Isaiah 20:4 So shall the king of Assyria lead away the Egyptians prisoners, and the Ethiopians captives, young and old, naked and barefoot, even with their buttocks uncovered, to the shame of Egypt.

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quote:
Originally posted by Troll Patrol:
I am waiting for you to explain why the Lemba don't have cacasoid features? When is this going to happen?lol


As the Buba clan of Lemba would tell you, their Jewish roots are from Israel.
The lembi is a Bantu word meaning "non-African"
and they have have been mixing with a much larger bantu population for centuries

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quote:
Originally posted by the lioness:
quote:
Originally posted by Troll Patrol:
quote:
Originally posted by the lioness:
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Troll Patty tell us why his hair is not all straight

That is something you need to explain..this is what we all have been waiting for.lol
Troll you will have to take this as a loss


obviously you are afraid to answer the question

it's ok I won't bite you, you can come out now

AS IF YOU EVER ANSWER QUESTIONS! LOL

Now, one and for most, ACCORDING TO YOU EVERY TRAIT CAN DEVELOP OUTSIDE OF AFRICA. AND ALL AFRICANS NEED TO HAVE PEPPERCORN HAIR.lol


Even though I posted this along, you have that tendency to ignore INFO!!!!


RECAP, FOR DORKY!


which is consistent with a mixture of either West African or East African ancestors or both contributing to the African ancestry in West Eurasians (Table S14; Figure S13). Historically, a mixture of West and East African ancestry is plausible, since African gene flow into West Eurasia is documented from both West Africa during Roman times [34] and from East Africa during migrations from Egypt [7]. It is important to point out, however, that the difficulty of pinpointing the exact African source population is not expected to bias our inferences about the total proportion and date of mixture. The f4 Ancestry Estimation method is unbiased even when we use a poor surrogates for the true ancestral African population (as long as the phylogeny is correct), as we confirmed by repeating analyses replacing YRI with LWK, and obtaining similar results (Table S15).Our ROLLOFF admixture date estimates are also similar whether we use LWK or YRI to represent ancestral African population (Table S15), as predicted by the theory. --Moorjani et al.


"Both skeletal/cranial and DNA studies by other authors confirm that some Neolithics did not derive from the Near East. They most likely resembled African populations. Hence comparisons using older European Neolithics versus Africans are comparisons with older prehistoric Europeans who looked more like Africans, than modern 'white' Europeans, as shown by Brace (2005), and Hanihara (1996) also, who states "Early West Asians looked like Africans."



—PN2 clade (E3) bearers in the vicinity of the Sudanese-Central African Republic -Ugandan-Kenyan region give rise to E3a ~ between 21 and 18 ky ago [pending additional or new info]; E3b-M35* would have likely arose relatively earlier than E3a*[as evidenced by its near absence in some the populations that carry this], sometime prior to the Ogolian and the LGM period. At this time, it was likely the M78 derivative that came about ~ between 19 and 15 ky ago. It was also likely during this period, that some E3b-M35 variants spilled over to the "southwest Asia", which would be identified as E-M34. The E-M78* likely arose somewhere in the bidirectional-migration route between Northeast and sub-Saharan East Africa; this location was likely in the region straddling upper Egypt and Sudan of the eastern Sahara, amongst earlier E-M35 migrants from sub-Saharan East Africa. These M78 bearers were increasingly pressured to move further south due to progressive aridity, possibly as far as Uganda-Kenya and/or Tanzanian general region.

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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by Troll Patrol:
I am waiting for you to explain why the Lemba don't have cacasoid features? When is this going to happen?lol


As the Buba clan of Lemba would tell you, their Jewish roots are from Israel.
The lembi is a Bantu word meaning "non-African"
and they have have been mixing with a much larger bantu population for centuries

I see, once again you have difficulty with BASIC MATH.

THEY CARRY THE HIGHEST HG J COHEN MARKER, MORE THEN ANY "CACASOID COHEN". PLUS YOU'VE ADDED A NEW HG T (18%) TO YOUR CACASOID THEORY.

"SO WHY DON'T THEY HAVE CACASOID TRAITS????LLLOOOOLLLL"


A FEW MONTHS AGO THE WAS A TV-PROGRAM ON THEM. THEY STATED THE CAME DIRECTLY FROM JEMEN!


BUT LET'S say the came from Israel...


Isaiah 20:4 So shall the king of Assyria lead away the Egyptians prisoners, and the Ethiopians captives, young and old, naked and barefoot, even with their buttocks uncovered, to the shame of Egypt.


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I always had the impression the guys just got their hair and beard cut off as prisoners of war.
If am not mistaken you will find similiar pasages in the Bible regarding croping of hair and beards as a symbol of humiliation.They also look like they are holding up there hands begging for mercy.
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quote:
Originally posted by sero:
I always had the impression the guys just got their hair and beard cut off as prisoners of war.
If am not mistaken you will find similiar pasages in the Bible regarding croping of hair and beard as a symbol of humiliation.They also look like they are holding up there hands begging for mercy.
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WE (I) of course don't know if this humiliating part you speak of was done before or afterwards.

Can you show the passages?


Head of the god Amun (Amun RA/ RE)(Amen)


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And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the AMEN, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God; I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. ( Revelation 3:14-15 )

Amon, or Amen

(the mysterious ), an Egyptian divinity, whose name occurs in that of No-amon. ( Nahum 3:8 ) Amen was one of the eight gods of the first order and chief of the triad of Thebes. He was worshipped at that city as Amen-Ra, or "Amen the Sun."


Bibliography Information


Smith, William, Dr. "Entry for 'Amon, or Amen'". "Smith's Bible Dictionary". . 1901.


Nahum 3:9 "Ethiopia and Egypt were her strength, and it was infinite".......? lol

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quote:
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*By comparing the structure of the STRs network among the various Ashkenazi populations and among the various European non-Jewish populations they reached the conclusion that a single male founder introduced this haplogroup into Ashkenazi Jews in the first millennium.


the male founder in this case is Middle Eastern

again, you have a double standard. You don't go around saying Muslims who don't have Arabian genes are fake.

You have a racist divide and conquer Jews agenda

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quote:
Originally posted by the lioness:
quote:
Originally posted by Troll Patrol:


*By comparing the structure of the STRs network among the various Ashkenazi populations and among the various European non-Jewish populations they reached the conclusion that a single male founder introduced this haplogroup into Ashkenazi Jews in the first millennium.


the male founder in this case is Middle Eastern

again, you have a double standard. You don't go around saying Muslims who don't have Arabian genes are fake.

You have a racist divide and conquer Jews agenda

I am waiting for you to explain why the Lemba don't have cacasoid features? When is this going to happen?lol

THEY CARRY YOUR PRECIOUS CACASOID Cohen GENE Hg J in the highest frequency? I guess mathematics is not your strongest point. Just like a few months ago.

THEORETICALLY THEY ARE BY FAR OVER HALF CACASOID IN GENE POOL. ACCORDING TO YOUR CACASOID THEORY!LOL


RUVEN BEN RAMEN'CHEM

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I am assuming that the Assyrians just wanted to show off their victory, in a common language the people understood. The Bible generally forbids cropping of hair,I also remember 2 Samuel 10:4

So Hanun seized David's men, shaved off half of each man's beard, cut off their garments in the middle at the buttocks, and sent them away.

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quote:
Originally posted by sero:
I am assuming that the Assyrians just wanted to show off their victory, in a common language the people understood. The Bible generally forbids cropping of hair,I also remember 2 Samuel 10:4

So Hanun seized David's men, shaved off half of each man's beard, cut off their garments in the middle at the buttocks, and sent them away.

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I wonder to what degree it has to deal with Assyrians? Cultural expression is dynamic not static.


2 Samuel 10:8

And the children of Ammon came out, and put the battle in array at the entering in of the gate: and the Syrians of Zoba, and of Rehob, and Ishtob, and Maacah, were by themselves in the field."

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quote:
Originally posted by Troll Patrol:
quote:
Originally posted by the lioness:
quote:
Originally posted by Troll Patrol:
quote:
Originally posted by the lioness:
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Troll Patty tell us why his hair is not all straight

That is something you need to explain..this is what we all have been waiting for.lol
Troll you will have to take this as a loss


obviously you are afraid to answer the question

it's ok I won't bite you, you can come out now

AS IF YOU EVER ANSWER QUESTIONS! LOL

Now, one and for most, ACCORDING TO YOU EVERY TRAIT CAN DEVELOP OUTSIDE OF AFRICA. AND ALL AFRICANS NEED TO HAVE PEPPERCORN HAIR.lol


Even though I posted this along, you have that tendency to ignore INFO!!!!


RECAP, FOR DORKY!


which is consistent with a mixture of either West African or East African ancestors or both contributing to the African ancestry in West Eurasians (Table S14; Figure S13). Historically, a mixture of West and East African ancestry is plausible, since African gene flow into West Eurasia is documented from both West Africa during Roman times [34] and from East Africa during migrations from Egypt [7]. It is important to point out, however, that the difficulty of pinpointing the exact African source population is not expected to bias our inferences about the total proportion and date of mixture. The f4 Ancestry Estimation method is unbiased even when we use a poor surrogates for the true ancestral African population (as long as the phylogeny is correct), as we confirmed by repeating analyses replacing YRI with LWK, and obtaining similar results (Table S15).Our ROLLOFF admixture date estimates are also similar whether we use LWK or YRI to represent ancestral African population (Table S15), as predicted by the theory. --Moorjani et al.


"Both skeletal/cranial and DNA studies by other authors confirm that some Neolithics did not derive from the Near East. They most likely resembled African populations. Hence comparisons using older European Neolithics versus Africans are comparisons with older prehistoric Europeans who looked more like Africans, than modern 'white' Europeans, as shown by Brace (2005), and Hanihara (1996) also, who states "Early West Asians looked like Africans."



—PN2 clade (E3) bearers in the vicinity of the Sudanese-Central African Republic -Ugandan-Kenyan region give rise to E3a ~ between 21 and 18 ky ago [pending additional or new info]; E3b-M35* would have likely arose relatively earlier than E3a*[as evidenced by its near absence in some the populations that carry this], sometime prior to the Ogolian and the LGM period. At this time, it was likely the M78 derivative that came about ~ between 19 and 15 ky ago. It was also likely during this period, that some E3b-M35 variants spilled over to the "southwest Asia", which would be identified as E-M34. The E-M78* likely arose somewhere in the bidirectional-migration route between Northeast and sub-Saharan East Africa; this location was likely in the region straddling upper Egypt and Sudan of the eastern Sahara, amongst earlier E-M35 migrants from sub-Saharan East Africa. These M78 bearers were increasingly pressured to move further south due to progressive aridity, possibly as far as Uganda-Kenya and/or Tanzanian general region.

^^^^ this a prime example of Troll Patty's distraction tactics. he does this on mumberous posts
Instead of answering a question about hair or saying he doesn't know the answer, he simply puts up a study that makes no mention of hair in hopes you won't notice him hiding in his mouse hole.
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"I'm confused, let's recap something"


and it becomes visual noise which takes away from the readability of the forum.
The Explorer for example is consice in his arguments. He doesn't have to constantly rely on giant posts of copied articles, many of which don't even directly pertain to the issue.
zarahan same problem, trying to impress with quantity all the time, makes for a less readable forum, dogs trying to piss on territory all the time

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The above is funny. It is you who needs to answer to this. Not me. It's obvious you can't comprehend that info, as usually!

You are trapped like the mouse. Not me. lol

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Isaiah 20:4 So shall the king of Assyria lead away the Egyptians prisoners, and the Ethiopians captives, young and old, naked and barefoot, even with their buttocks uncovered, to the shame of Egypt.


Head of the god Amun (Amun RA/ RE)(Amen)


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And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the AMEN, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God; I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. ( Revelation 3:14-15 )

Amon, or Amen

(the mysterious ), an Egyptian divinity, whose name occurs in that of No-amon. ( Nahum 3:8 ) Amen was one of the eight gods of the first order and chief of the triad of Thebes. He was worshipped at that city as Amen-Ra, or "Amen the Sun."


Bibliography Information


Smith, William, Dr. "Entry for 'Amon, or Amen'". "Smith's Bible Dictionary". . 1901.


Nahum 3:9 "Ethiopia and Egypt were her strength, and it was infinite".......? lol

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quote:
Originally posted by Troll Patrol:
The above is funny. It is you who needs to answer to this. Not me.

You are trapped like the mouse. Not me. lol

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Isaiah 20:4 So shall the king of Assyria lead away the Egyptians prisoners, and the Ethiopians captives, young and old, naked and barefoot, even with their buttocks uncovered, to the shame of Egypt.

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^^^ this is the other Troll Patty tactic, if you can't deal with the one picture, switch to a few others, maybe no one will notice.
It's called the "old switcheroo" aka the shell game


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^^ Troll Patrol tell us why his hair is not all straight.

thanks, lioness

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sero what is your research methods for coming up with these great pictures you have?
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quote:
Originally posted by the lioness:
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Originally posted by Troll Patrol:
The above is funny. It is you who needs to answer to this. Not me.

You are trapped like the mouse. Not me. lol

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Isaiah 20:4 So shall the king of Assyria lead away the Egyptians prisoners, and the Ethiopians captives, young and old, naked and barefoot, even with their buttocks uncovered, to the shame of Egypt.

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^^^ this is the other Troll Patty tactic, if you can't deal with the one picture, switch to a few others, maybe no one will notice.
It's called the "old switcheroo" aka the shell game


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^^ Troll Patrol tell us why his hair is not all straight.

thanks, lioness

You are welcome, Dorky! And may I remind you that I have posted some info on this question before. You are simply too dumb to grasp i!


RECAP, FOR DORKY WHO CLAIMS THIS IS OF OFF THE SUBJECT!!!LOL


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which is consistent with a mixture of either West African or East African ancestors or both contributing to the African ancestry i West Eurasians (Table S14; Figure S13). Historically, a mixture of West and East African ancestry is plausible, since African gene flow into West Eurasia is documented from both West Africa during Roman times [34] and from East Africa during migrations from Egypt [7]. It is important to point out, however, that the difficulty of pinpointing the exact African source population is not expected to bias our inferences about the total proportion and date of mixture. The f4 Ancestry Estimation method is unbiased even when we use a poor surrogates for the true ancestral African population (as long as the phylogeny is correct), as we confirmed by repeating analyses replacing YRI with LWK, and obtaining similar results (Table S15).Our ROLLOFF admixture date estimates are also similar whether we use LWK or YRI to represent ancestral African population (Table S15), as predicted by the theory. --Moorjani et al.

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"Both skeletal/cranial and DNA studies by other authors confirm that some Neolithics did not derive from the Near East. They most likely resembled African populations. Hence comparisons using older European Neolithics versus Africans are comparisons with older prehistoric Europeans who looked more like Africans, than modern 'white' Europeans, as shown by Brace (2005), and Hanihara (1996) also, who states "Early West Asians looked like Africans."

I am waiting for you to explain why the Lemba don't have cacasoid features? When is this going to happen?lol

THEY CARRY YOUR PRECIOUS CACASOID Cohen GENE Hg J in the highest frequency? I guess mathematics is not your strongest point. Just like a few months ago.

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quote:
Originally posted by Troll Patrol:


I am waiting for you to explain why the Lemba don't have cacasoid features? When is this going to happen?lol

THEY CARRY YOUR PRECIOUS CACASOID Cohen GENE Hg J in the highest frequency? I guess mathematics is not your strongest point. Just like a few months ago. [/QB]

I already answered your question several posts ago:

quote:
Originally posted by the lioness:
quote:
Originally posted by Troll Patrol:
I am waiting for you to explain why the Lemba don't have cacasoid features? When is this going to happen?lol


As the Buba clan of Lemba would tell you, their Jewish roots are from Israel.
The lembi is a Bantu word meaning "non-African"
and they have have been mixing with a much larger bantu population for centuries

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^^^ people like this don't have sharp features like some North Western Europeans do.

Neverthless the Buba clan of Lemba don't look
like this either because they have been mixing with the local bantu people for centuries

Why do I have to repeat something I already answered for your ass?

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Yes, I do see the resemblance, with the picture below. If I look very quickly thou.lol


Hebrews as they were during ancient days of Rome; Flavius Josephus describes a man like them, referring at the individual Jesus/ Joshua Ben Pantera as. Short, dark skinned, with curly/ frizzy hair. And underdeveloped beard. So where does that other image comes from. You know? lol


quote:
Originally posted by the lioness:
quote:
Originally posted by Troll Patrol:


I am waiting for you to explain why the Lemba don't have cacasoid features? When is this going to happen?lol

THEY CARRY YOUR PRECIOUS CACASOID Cohen GENE Hg J in the highest frequency? I guess mathematics is not your strongest point. Just like a few months ago.

I already answered your question several posts ago:

quote:
Originally posted by the lioness:
quote:
Originally posted by Troll Patrol:
I am waiting for you to explain why the Lemba don't have cacasoid features? When is this going to happen?lol


As the Buba clan of Lemba would tell you, their Jewish roots are from Israel.
The lembi is a Bantu word meaning "non-African"
and they have have been mixing with a much larger bantu population for centuries

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^^^ people like this don't have sharp features like some North Western Europeans do.

Neverthless the Buba clan of Lemba don't look
like this either because they have been mixing with the local bantu people for centuries

Why do I have to repeat something I already answered for your ass? [/QB]

More baseless nonsense here above!

You are so desperate you now randomly take a man as your "prime " example. Connecting him to the Fayum. And that same man, is a billion other things.lol

Spanning from all over the globe. He now is also a Cohen, I assume. However, I wonder, is his frequency Cohen-Hg higher than that of the LEMBA, if suppose? lol


So no you haven't answered my question, it was bullshit babble. I am waiting for you to explain why the Lemba don't have cacasoid features? When is this going to happen?lol


THEY CARRY YOUR PRECIOUS so called CACASOID Cohen GENE Hg J in the highest frequency, MORE THAN YOUR PRECIOUS CACASOIDS? Plus Haplogroup T up to 18 %.


THEORETICALLY THEY ARE BY FAR OVER HALF CACASOID IN GENE POOL. ACCORDING TO YOUR CACASOID THEORY!LOL


THEIR GENE POOL IS HEAVY CACASOID!!!!!! THIS IS WHAT YOU ALWAYS CLAIM!!!! RETARD


The Cohen chromosome is of course male affiliated as descendants of Aaron!


Y chromosomes traveling south: the cohen modal haplotype and the origins of the Lemba--the "Black Jews of Southern Africa".


AuthorsThomas MG, et al. Show all Journal
Am J Hum Genet. 2000 Feb;66(2):674-86.

Affiliation

The Center for Genetic Anthropology, Departments of Biology and Anthropology, University College London, London, United Kingdom.

Abstract

The Lemba are a traditionally endogamous group speaking a variety of Bantu languages who live in a number of locations in southern Africa. They claim descent from Jews who came to Africa from "Sena." "Sena" is variously identified by them as Sanaa in Yemen, Judea, Egypt, or Ethiopia. A previous study using Y-chromosome markers suggested both a Bantu and a Semitic contribution to the Lemba gene pool, a suggestion that is not inconsistent with Lemba oral tradition. To provide a more detailed picture of the Lemba paternal genetic heritage, we analyzed 399 Y chromosomes for six microsatellites and six biallelic markers in six populations (Lemba, Bantu, Yemeni-Hadramaut, Yemeni-Sena, Sephardic Jews, and Ashkenazic Jews). The high resolution afforded by the markers shows that Lemba Y chromosomes are clearly divided into Semitic and Bantu clades. Interestingly, one of the Lemba clans carries, at a very high frequency, a particular Y-chromosome type termed the "Cohen modal haplotype," which is known to be characteristic of the paternally inherited Jewish priesthood and is thought, more generally, to be a potential signature haplotype of Judaic origin. The Bantu Y-chromosome samples are predominantly (>80%) YAP+ and include a modal haplotype at high frequency. Assuming a rapid expansion of the eastern Bantu, we used variation in microsatellite alleles in YAP+ sY81-G Bantu Y chromosomes to calculate a rough date, 3,000-5,000 years before the present, for the start of their expansion.

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For dorky, the toothless lionass.

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quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:

As we all know, REAL Egyptian Tiles were glazed like this:

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So no telling what that is.

But it is an Excellent example of Albino forgeries Lioness, so thank you.

As to Libyans:

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That image of that ancient Palatine is also at the second floor of the Cairo museum. And yes, it was glassed.


The Fulani always have remained at the Libyan dessert.


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typo above, Palatine = Philistine
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quote:
Originally posted by Troll Patrol:

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Pred Caucasoid.
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quote:
I am waiting for you to explain why the Lemba don't have cacasoid features? When is this going to happen?lol
The Lemba have Caucasoid craniofacial features, they are admixed with Semites. They have a legend that they derived from WHITE MEN.

"Their features are "Jewish"— that is, they are Semitic-Armenoid in type. Such traits can only
have come from a limited number of sources, for instance Persian, Arab, Parsee or Jewish strains, and therefore they are intruders
in the Negroid Bantu world. Moreover, they practise circumcision [...] and they refuse to eat pork" (Gayre, 1970)

"A few were decidedly lighter-skinned. A number had thin lips and nostrils and, again, the aquiline nose was apparent, in some cases
combined with a narrow face, and features which are reminiscent of Semitic (Arab) type of countenance" (Gayre, 1970)

Note the Lemba oral tradition:

"It will be recalled that the Vendaland Lemba. of whom we have written previously, accounted for this attitude by saying that they were formerly White men but their original women were Black." (Gayre, 1970)

I've got more sources on this legend, its pretty interesting.

Basically the Lemba are Caucasoid(Semitic)-Negroid hybrids, a colony of white semitic men bred with Negroid women to produce the Lemba of today.

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quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
^Get used to it sonny:
You posted a nonsense question, but it led to serious discussions on serious subjects.

Once you post, it is no longer yours - I thought that I had explained that to you.

A person who makes you angry controls you. I made you angry so you know what the means. [Big Grin]
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quote:
Originally posted by Troll Patrol:

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_________________^^^^here we two Syrians on the left, three Kusites in the middle and two
Libyans on the right


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^^^^Syrians aka Asiatics

"negroid" , "caucasians" "both" or
"neither one"
you be the judge

I have not been talking about Hebrews having caucasian features.
If you want to play games like I have go back in the thread and quote me. The Hebrews were Middle Eastern not African.
They had semitic features and when they dispersed and those that went into Europe acquired more European features and those who went into Africa acquired African features.
And there are features that crossover ethnicities. The Lemba are authentic jews not because they have the Cohen haplotype becasue they practice the traditions.

Troll Patty is being very divisive and racist in trying to make a real jew vs fake jew spilit.


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lol at the rubbish above! I wrote many times before, THE MIDDLE EAST IS A COMPOSITION OF Hg J* and E* carriers.

TECHNICALLY THE MIDDLE EAST IS AN EXTENSION OF AFRICA!!!


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quote:
Originally posted by Anglo_Pyramidologist:
quote:
Originally posted by Troll Patrol:

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Pred Caucasoid. [/QB]
And you are a dumb dork, who still doesn't get that people don't have to be from the "caucasus mountains" to have certain traits!

You have inherited your traits from Africans who left Africa. You are genetically the last in the branch.


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quote:
Originally posted by Anglo_clown:
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I am waiting for you to explain why the Lemba don't have cacasoid features? When is this going to happen?lol
The Lemba have Caucasoid craniofacial features, they are admixed with Semites. They have a legend that they derived from WHITE MEN.

"Their features are "Jewish"— that is, they are Semitic-Armenoid in type. Such traits can only
have come from a limited number of sources, for instance Persian, Arab, Parsee or Jewish strains, and therefore they are intruders
in the Negroid Bantu world. Moreover, they practise circumcision [...] and they refuse to eat pork" (Gayre, 1970)

"A few were decidedly lighter-skinned. A number had thin lips and nostrils and, again, the aquiline nose was apparent, in some cases
combined with a narrow face, and features which are reminiscent of Semitic (Arab) type of countenance" (Gayre, 1970)

Note the Lemba oral tradition:

"It will be recalled that the Vendaland Lemba. of whom we have written previously, accounted for this attitude by saying that they were formerly White men but their original women were Black." (Gayre, 1970)

I've got more sources on this legend, its pretty interesting.

Basically the Lemba are Caucasoid(Semitic)-Negroid hybrids, a colony of white semitic men bred with Negroid women to produce the Lemba of today.

The problem with your quotes is, its based on exotic babble and bias, by
folks with colonial mindsets. Nothing from the Lemba themselves. I have seen a doc not too long ago, were they tell their own story. The only thing that is correct, is their own claim they came from Yemen. There was no word of "white men".

And in the meanwhile they carry the Cohanim-Hg in the highest frequency.

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