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1-I can't understand how a God let a man marry 4 women at one time?
2-I can't understand why Islam seek the death for people who convert out of it???
3-God created us with BEAUTIFUL hair, against the nature of this hair is to cover it at all times "Hejab", he created it this way for us to enjoy it under the sun not only in closed doors???
4- Why christians and Jews are enemies to Islam, why these verses???
5-why prophet mohamad failed to raise the dead and heal the sick like Jesus?
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quote:Originally posted by poopka: 1-I can't understand how a God let a man marry 4 women at one time?
2-I can't understand why Islam seek the death for people who convert out of it???
3-God created us with BEAUTIFUL hair, against the nature of this hair is to cover it at all times "Hejab", he created it this way for us to enjoy it under the sun not only in closed doors???
4- Why christians and Jews are enemies to Islam, why these verses???
5-why prophet mohamad failed to raise the dead and heal the sick like Jesus?
1- same like when God let Solomon live with 700 women
2- same as King David and King Solomon had to fight the infidels ; anyone who didn't believe in God.
3- Ask the nuns why they have to live behind closed doors if they want to worship god.
4- The religions come from one God so why would they be enemies ? If people followed what God sent them , then God would not send 3 Books.
5- Why jesus didn't have a big army like king Solomon ; he couldn't even protect himself and asked for God to help him ( unless you believe he was crucified )
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Still not good answers Ichigo, you are comparing everything to OT.
The OT does not have any of my questions happening until this day. Quraan does!!!!
The first 4 questions happen everyday in Islam, in our modern world you see it every day unlike any other religion.
The nuns are behind closed doors because they chose to do so, unmarried, devotion to God they believe in! unlike covered women who marry and live their normal life opressed by their societies to wear a scarf at all times in the name of God. Not even going to start talking about the ghosts who walk around "full covered" that you can't even see their eyes.
I need good answers not comparisons although if you tend to compare it will still not be good enough answers because my questions are factual and valid in Islam until this day unlike any other religion, my last question is the only question that could be compared!!!
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I'm sorry if your mentality can not comprehend. And obviously you have a problem with religions in general and that's why you ask about Islam , like you are not satisfied with any other religion.
And as long as you reached the answeres about Islam and solved the great dilemma then why you keep asking! wouldn't it be better if you seek God if you ever believed in a God?
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I'm asking questions, you either answer or not answer, why do you attack me. I'm trying to understand. You may be could say something I don't know and I follow your leads. So far you haven't added anything maybe others will.
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quote:Originally posted by poopka: Still not good answers Ichigo, you are comparing everything to OT.
The OT does not have any of my questions happening until this day. Quraan does!!!!
Exactly , people abandoned their religion because they don't believe , but Muslims still follow the word of God.
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You mean they follow the word of God I have up there therefore they are blowing up bombs to kill innocent lifes in places like Dahab. Interesting!!!
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quote:Originally posted by poopka: I'm asking questions, you either answer or not answer, why do you attack me. I'm trying to understand. You may be could say something I don't know and I follow your leads. So far you haven't added anything maybe others will.
But you are not asking , you are sarcastic. It's so easy to ask questions when you are ignorant or stupid to prove to yourself that you still have brains. No one will ever blame a teacher for having a stupid or a lazy student in a class.
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quote:Originally posted by poopka: You mean they follow the word of God I have up there therefore they are blowing up bombs to kill innocent lifes in places like Dahab. Interesting!!!
Also Muslims were blown in Dahab - they were having fun like christians and tourists. but you only see that Muslims were there to bomb.
This is my point , your mind is blocked. then how can you understand the answeres?
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Muslims who died and injured in the blasts are also innocent lifes, what I'm talking about is the source of all this.
Let's see what Quraan says:
Terror
3:151 We will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve, because they set up with Allah that for which He has sent down no authority, and their abode is the fire, and evil is the abode of the unjust.
8:60 And prepare against them what force you can and horses tied at the frontier, to terrorize thereby the enemy of Allah...
8:12 I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them.
Moreover Allah says of those who reject him. Because, Allah has already sentenced them to death.
Unbelievers
2:191, And slay them wherever ye catch them
2:193, And fight them on until there is no more Tumult or oppression
2:216, Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you
3:28, Let not the believers Take for friends or helpers Unbelievers rather than believers: if any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah
4:48 “Allah forgiveth not that partners should be set up with Him; but He forgiveth anything else, to whom He pleaseth; to set up partners with Allah is to devise a sin Most heinous indeed.”
4:84, Then fight in Allah’s cause - Thou art held responsible only for thyself - and rouse the believers. It may be that Allah will restrain the fury of the Unbelievers; for Allah is the strongest in might and in punishment.
4:141, And never will Allah grant to the unbelievers a way (to triumphs) over the believers
5:33, The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter;
8:12, I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them
8:15-16, O ye who believe! when ye meet the Unbelievers in hostile array, never turn your backs to them. If any do turn his back to them on such a day - unless it be in a stratagem of war, or to retreat to a troop (of his own)- he draws on himself the wrath of Allah, and his abode is Hell,- an evil refuge (indeed)!
8:17, It is not ye who slew them; it was Allah: when thou threwest (a handful of dust), it was not thy act, but Allah’s: in order that He might test the Believers by a gracious trial from Himself
8:60, Against them make ready your strength to the utmost of your power, including steeds of war, to strike terror into (the hearts of) the enemies, of Allah and your enemies, and others besides, whom ye may not know, but whom Allah doth know. Whatever ye shall spend in the cause of Allah, shall be repaid unto you, and ye shall not be treated unjustly.
8:65, O Prophet! rouse the Believers to the fight. If there are twenty amongst you, patient and persevering, they will vanquish two hundred: if a hundred, they will vanquish a thousand of the Unbelievers
9:5, But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem.
9:3, And an announcement from Allah and His Messenger, to the people (assembled) on the day of the Great Pilgrimage,- that Allah and His Messenger dissolve (treaty) obligations with the Pagans. If then, ye repent, it were best for you; but if ye turn away, know ye that ye cannot frustrate Allah. And proclaim a grievous penalty to those who reject Faith.
9:14, Fight them, and Allah will punish them by your hands, cover them with shame, help you (to victory) over them, heal the breasts of Believers,
9:23, O ye who believe! take not for protectors your fathers and your brothers if they love infidelity above Faith: if any of you do so, they do wrong.
9:28, O ye who believe! Truly the Pagans are unclean; so let them not, after this year of theirs, approach the Sacred Mosque.
9:29, Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.
9:39, Unless ye go forth, (for Jihad) He will punish you with a grievous penalty, and put others in your place; but Him ye would not harm in the least.
9:73, O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the Hypocrites, and be firm against them. Their abode is Hell,- an evil refuge indeed.
9:111, Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Qur’an
9:123, O ye who believe! fight the unbelievers who gird you about, and let them find firmness in you: and know that Allah is with those who fear Him.
22:9, (Disdainfully) bending his side, in order to lead (men) astray from the Path of Allah: for him there is disgrace in this life, and on the Day of Judgment We shall make him taste the Penalty of burning (Fire).
22:19-22; These two antagonists dispute with each other about their Lord: But those who deny (their Lord),- for them will be cut out a garment of Fire: over their heads will be poured out boiling water. With it will be scalded what is within their bodies, as well as (their) skins. In addition there will be maces of iron (to punish) them. Every time they wish to get away therefrom, from anguish, they will be forced back therein, and (it will be said), “Taste ye the Penalty of Burning!”
25:52, So obey not the disbelievers, but strive against them herewith with a great endeavour.
25:68 ”Those who invoke not, with Allah, any other god, nor slay such life as Allah has made sacred except for just cause, nor commit fornication; - and any that does this (not only) meets punishment. “(But) the Penalty on the Day of Judgment will be doubled to him, and he will dwell therein in ignominy,-
37:22-23, “Bring ye up”, it shall be said, “The wrong-doers and their wives, and the things they worshipped- Besides Allah, and lead them to the Way to the (Fierce) Fire!
47:4, Therefore, when ye meet the Unbelievers (in fight), smite at their necks; At length, when ye have thoroughly subdued them, bind a bond firmly (on them): thereafter (is the time for) either generosity or ransom: Until the war lays down its burdens.
48:13 And if any believe not in Allah and His Messenger, We have prepared, for those who reject Allah, a Blazing Fire!
48:29, Muhammad is the messenger of Allah; and those who are with him are strong against Unbelievers, (but) compassionate amongst each other.
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quote:Originally posted by poopka: Muslims who died and injured in the blasts are also innocent lifes, what I'm talking about is the source of all this.
When 1.3 billions are innocents because they follow the Quran and Sunnah then the few you are talking about are not following Islam.
If you really reading books and looking for answers as you claim then try to complete your anti-islamic post and mention each verse with the reasons and occasions of revelations. And also tell us about the time when it was revealed.
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same reasons leading to WW I and WW II. Same reasons that the last major wars like 1948 , 1956 , 1965 , 1973 and 1980 (Iraq -Iran ), 1990 and 2003 all happening in the Middle east.
After you answer my question I can teach you more about History.
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You need to study the history of Middle East to find the answeres. terrorism is a silent war and it has the same reasons (Ideology).
Now try to trace the reasons that started wars in Middle East and find out when bombings/terrorism ( by its new definition) started. And then maybe you will get the sense instead of being lost with your links.
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and here is a list of the history of middle eastren wars and it is still irrelavant. You see everything has a cause and effect. The information made very simple to our fingure tips just read them and see if you are making sense. You were inviting me to read them now I'm inviting you to read them.
This list currently covers Middle Eastern wars and conflicts from the 1948 Arab-Israeli War to the Present. For the purposes of this list, the Middle East comprises Egypt, Israel, Palestine, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, Turkey, Iran, Iraq, Kuwait, Qatar, Bahrain, the United Arab Emirates, Oman, Yemen, and Saudi Arabia.
Israeli War of Independence (1948-1949)--Upon Israel's declaration of independence, Egypt, Transjordan, Syria, Iraq, Lebanon, and Saudi Arabia join the local Palestinian militias in attacking Israel.
Suez War (1956)-Israel, France, and Britain invade Egypt. U.S. and Soviet pressure force a cease-fire and allied withdrawal from Egyptian territory.
Iraqi Army Revolt/Coup- (July 14, 1958)--Brigadier General Abdul Karim el Qassim overthrows the royal government of King Faisal II. Both the king and Prime Minister Nouri al Said are killed. Qassim soon withdrew Iraq from the pro-Western Baghdad Pact and established friendly relations with the Soviet Union.
Lebanese Civil War (1958)-Lebanon's Christian and Muslim communities engaged in civil conflict. The United States landed troops in the country to halt the fighting.
Mosul (Iraq) Revolt--(March, 1959)--Pro-Qassim communist militia , called the People's Resistance Force, violently suppressed an anti-Qassim Sunni Army faction made up mostly of junior officers.
Kirkuk (Iraq) Violence -(1959)--Pro-Qassim(pro-Communist) Kurds and People's Resistance Force killed ethnic Turkomen in Kirkuk .
Iraqi Kurdish Revolt—(1961-1970) –After a period of relative calm, Iraqi government promises of Kurdish autonomy, or self-rule, went unfulfilled, sparking discontent and eventual rebellion among the Kurds in 1961.
North Yemen Civil War (1966-1968)-Royalist rebels fought to overthrow the "Republican" government. Egypt sent troops to help the government, while Saudi Arabia aided the rebels.
Dhofar Rebellion in Oman (1960's-1970's)-Marxist rebels, aided by South Yemen, fought against the conservative, pro-western Omani government. The Shah of Iran sent troops to help fight the rebels, and Britain supplied officers for the the Omani army. The rebels were defeated in the early 1970s.\
Six-Day War (1967)--Israel launched a pre-emptive attack on Egypt, Jordan, and Syria. The Iraqi air force was also attacked by Israel.
The War of Attrition (1968-1970)--Border war between Egypt and Israel. Basically an extension of their fighting in the Six-Day War.
Jordanian Civil War (1970)-The Jordanian government expelled the Palestine Liberation Orgaination, partly to end Israels's excuse for continual raids and invasions of Jordan to fight the PLO. Syria sent troops to aid the PLO. Despite that aid, the PLO was forced to move to Lebanon.
Yom Kippur [or Ramadan] War (1973)--Egypt and Syria launch a surprise attack on Israel on the Jewish holiday of Yom Kippur. The attack is also on the Muslim holiday of Ramadan. Iraq sent troops to aid the Syrians.
Iraqi Kurdish Revolt -(March, 1974) -–In March, 1974, Kurdish rebels led by Mullah Mustafa Barzani (having survived an assassination attempt) rebelled against the government. The Kurds felt that the government was not living up to the agreement which ended the previous revolt.
Lebanese Civil War (1975-1990)-When the PLO moved to Lebanon, it helped upset the balance between the Christian and Muslim communities in Lebanon. When civil war broke out, the PLO sided with the several Muslim militias, and Israel aided the Christians. Syria sent troops as part of an Arab League force to stop the fighting. Syrian forces finally withdrew from Lebanon in April of 2005.
Egyptian-Libyan Border War (June 21-24, 1977)-Border conflict between Egypt and Libya.
Intra-Iraqi Kurdish warfare (1978-1979) --In 1975, Jalal Talabani formed the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan (PUK)-urban-based and leftist) in opposition the Barzani-led Kurdish Democratic Party (KDP).
Iraqi Shia unrest in Karbala -(February, 1979)--Suppressed by the Saddam regime. Under Saddam Hussein, the Shiites (Shia) were a persecuted religious group, both despite the fact, and because of, their numerical majority in the country.
Yemeni War (1979)--A border war between Saudi-allied North Yemen and Soviet-allied South Yemen turned into a superpower confrontation as Saudi Arabia's ally, the United States, sought to end a war which quickly favored the Marxist South Yemanis. Both sides agreed to a cease-fire.
First Persian Gulf War (1980-1988)-Iran vs. Iraq-also involved U.S. and Kuwait.
"The Tanker War" (1987-1988)-This is the component of the First Persian Gulf War that involved the U.S. and Kuwait. In an attempt to halt Kuwaiti aid for Iraq, as well as Iraqi oil sales and deliveries, Iran attacked oil tankers in the Gulf. The U.S. stepped in to protect the Kuwaiti ships and came engaged in combat with Iran's Navy and Revolutionary Guards. Also known by the U.S. code-name "Operation Earnest Will."
Osiraq Reactor Raid—(June 7, 1981) –Israeli war planes bomb the Osiraq nuclear reactor under construction in Iraq.
Israeli Invasion of Lebanon (1982-1984)-Also involved Syria and the PLO.
Israeli-Lebanese Border War (1984-2000)-Also involved Syria , the PLO and Lebanese militia's such as Hezbollah.
South Yemen Civil War (1986)--Civil War in Marxist South Yemen between different factions in the ruling Marxist government. More than 10,000 died in a week of fighting.
The First Intifada (Dec. 1987-1993)-An uprising by the Palestinians in the territories occupied by Israel in the 1967 War. This conflict concluded with the Oslo Accords, which set up a timetable for Palestinian nationhood and called for the establishment of the Palestinian Authority, with PLO Chairman Yassir Arafat as President.
Second Persian Gulf War (1990-1991) Kuwait, United States, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Egypt, Britain, France, Oman, Qatar, UAE vs. Iraq
Iraqi Kurdish Revolt—(1991) –Encouraged by the sudden defeat of Saddam’s forces in Kuwait and spurred by appeals by President George H. W. Bush of the U.S., Kurds rose up against the Iraqi government With the bulk of his elite forces having escaped from the fighting in Kuwait and southern Iraq, Saddam was able to smash the revolt, causing hundreds of thousands of Kurdish refugees to flee into neighboring Turkey and Iran to escape.
Iraqi Shiite Revolt—(1991) – Encouraged by the stunning defeat of Saddam’s forces in Kuwait and spurred by appeals by President George H. W. Bush of the U.S., the Shiites of southern Iraq rose up against the Iraqi government, only to be crushed by Saddam’s forces. Sporadic guerrilla resistance continued, with the bulk of the Shiite fighting forces seeking refuge in neighboring Shiite Iran.
The "No-Fly Zone War " (1991-2003)
Yemeni Civil War (1994)
Yemen-Eritrea Border Conflict (1996?)
Intra-Iraqi Kurdish warfare --(1996) – Combat between various Kurdish militias.
Yemeni Tribal Uprising (1998)
Saudi-Yemen Border Conflict (1998)
bin Laden's War (1998-Present) -Terrorist conflict between the United States and irregular forces led by Osama bin Laden. The violence has also involved Kenya, Tanzania, Sudan, Yemen and Afghanistan.
The Second Intifada (Sept. 2000-Present)-An urban guerrilla/terrorist conflict between the Palestinians and Israel. Marked by suicide bombings, recurring Israeli invasions of Palestinian cities and Palestinian guerrilla attacks on Isreaeli settlements and military targets.
Third Persian Gulf War (2003-Present)-The second major war between the United States-led coalition and the Middle Eastern nation of Iraq. Military members of the coalition also include the United Kingdom and Australia.
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Good poopka you are doing your homework now complete it and find out when was the first terrorist bombings in middle east and i will explain to you later if you can't understand the relation.
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Some one killed a friend of yours so you went and killed 5 friends of his. who is wrong? who started or who killed more?
Sheding blood is bad no matter who is doing it. How many times you heard non muslims involving in terror attacks, rarely non muslims!!!
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no wonder you are having difficulties understanding anything. clear ignornace and pure stupididty. have fun wasting your time , ES needed a clown just like you.
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there was no question but a lousy theory you claimed and you couldn't prove it. better luck next time
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so poopka ur problem is coz i've read teh thread and it wasn't clear, are you against islam,arabs or terrorists????
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1-I can't understand how a God let a man marry 4 women at one time?
because God is so merciful to women who are widowed or donthave a husband. God grant man to marry 4 to solve the problem of those weak women. Also man must treat them all in an equivalent way. this is a condition. Man must love them all equally.if not, man will be guilty in front of Allah.
2-I can't understand why Islam seek the death for people who convert out of it???
Those people who knew the truth and avoid it deserve it. and i cant see anyone who do that. do you know any one who do??
God created us with BEAUTIFUL hair, against the nature of this hair is to cover it at all times "Hejab", he created it this way for us to enjoy it under the sun not only in closed doors??? this is to protect your hair. recently they discover that veil is good for hairs. God knew better that us. and the scietists in these days find out it. i read this report recently.
4- Why christians and Jews are enemies to Islam, why these verses??? jew are enemies bcuz they scold and insult the prophet and step on the quran. and they stole the jursalem and lots of bad deeds.
Christian says lies about the jesus.
But Quran says that we are allowed to cope with and deal with the nasara( current christian) who didnt fight with us in an equivalent way.
5-why prophet mohamad failed to raise the dead and heal the sick like Jesus? Prophet muhammed get his own miracle which is Quran. and also he treated people. there are a loty of verses in Quran that says that.
Prophet Jesus had a lot of miracles. God grant him the power of healing people this is be God will. and quran says that. No deny on that. Also prophet muhammed treated people as i read. i didnt remeber the verse. i will search for it .
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quote:Originally posted by islamonfocus.com: because God is so merciful to women who are widowed or donthave a husband.
And you think all widowed or single women would be better off getting married as second or third wifes than staying single???
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quote:Originally posted by poopka: ISLAM book is the source of TERRORISM and ARABS excute it. It took me a while before I come to this conclusion trust me.
Still no one is really able to answer my 5 questions?
how many muslims? 1.3 bil, how many teroorists who happen to be muslims lets assume 1 mil(which it too much) thats 1% of muslims.
so according to the 1% the rest of teh 99% are terrorists???? how logical......u simply can't generalise.
if u did ur research well u'll find this, terrorism comes from extreemism, extreemism comes from ignorance...not Islam.
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quote:Originally posted by islamonfocus.com: because God is so merciful to women who are widowed or donthave a husband.
And you think all widowed or single women would be better off getting married as second or third wifes than staying single???
it's allowed u can choose to do it or not.
then again a diffrent reason y marrying 4 women is allowed in Islam, during war men fight and men die, so the ratio of women:men increase, causing an imbalance is society, thus God allowed it, to re-balance the society.
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quote:Originally posted by islamonfocus.com: because God is so merciful to women who are widowed or donthave a husband.
And you think all widowed or single women would be better off getting married as second or third wifes than staying single???
After the WWII there were 7,300,000 more women than men in Germany alone (3.3 million of them were widows). There were 100 men aged 20 to 30 for every 167 women in that age group . Many of these women needed a man not only as a companion but also as a provider for the household in a time of unprecedented misery and hardship. The soldiers in the victorious Allied Armies exploited these women's vulnerability. Many young girls and widows had liaisons with members of the occupying forces. Many American and British soldiers paid for their pleasures in cigarettes, chocolate, and bread. Children were overjoyed at the gifts these strangers brought. A 10 year old boy on hearing of such gifts from other children wished from all his heart for an 'Englishman' for his mother so that she need not go hungry any longer.
So ‘What is more honourable to a woman – an accepted and respected second wife, or a secret liaison with a mistress or prostitute?’
It is interesting to note that in an international youth conference held in Munich in 1948 the problem of the highly unbalanced sex ratio in Germany was discussed. When it became clear that no solution could be agreed upon, some participants suggested polygamy. The initial reaction of the gathering was a mixture of shock and disgust. However, after a careful study of the proposal, the participants agreed that it was the only possible solution. Consequently, polygamy was included among the conference final recommendations.
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quote:Originally posted by poopka: 1-I can't understand how a God let a man marry 4 women at one time?
2-I can't understand why Islam seek the death for people who convert out of it???
3-God created us with BEAUTIFUL hair, against the nature of this hair is to cover it at all times "Hejab", he created it this way for us to enjoy it under the sun not only in closed doors???
4- Why christians and Jews are enemies to Islam, why these verses???
5-why prophet mohamad failed to raise the dead and heal the sick like Jesus?
why do you expect us to answer your questions and you ingore ours ? once again, in one of your threads you asked me how many kill words in the quran and you said be careful because you counted the words in both books, the Quran and the bible and you stayed 7 days counting them. newcomer answered your question and I asked you , how many kill words did you count in the bible? you ignored the question and therefore I posted for you a new thread asking you the question again and yet you ignored the thread. so , why do you lie? what say you stayed 7 days counting the words and you dont want to answer?
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quote:Originally posted by Mr Egypt: So ‘What is more honourable to a woman – an accepted and respected second wife, or a secret liaison with a mistress or prostitute?’
This aspect has been discussed on here countless times.
I suggest you reflect on the above sentence. What is says is that a woman's life is worthless without a man and that women have no choice than to either be *respectably married* or become prostitutes or mistresses. I don't think this theory deserves any further discussion ...
quote:Originally posted by Mr Egypt: It is interesting to note that in an international youth conference held in Munich in 1948 the problem of the highly unbalanced sex ratio in Germany was discussed. When it became clear that no solution could be agreed upon, some participants suggested polygamy. The initial reaction of the gathering was a mixture of shock and disgust. However, after a careful study of the proposal, the participants agreed that it was the only possible solution. Consequently, polygamy was included among the conference final recommendations.
Just because something appears on the internet many times doesn't make it right. This passage has been posted on here before – it's a hoax.
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Mr. Egypt I set the rules in my threads not you. There are things that I think is worth discussing to come back to myself with certain knowledge. It is not a horse race for me as it is probably for you. So if you see me ignor a question carry on and realize that is not on my top priorities to go back and forth with it. Same way you don't feel like you want to post an answer, be it, ignor it, you don't have to jump up all around and nag why didn't I answer your other threads. We are not in a kindergarten here.
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quote:Originally posted by Dalia_06: Just because something appears on the internet many times doesn't make it right. This passage has been posted on here before – it's a hoax.
it is a hoax only in your mind
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quote:Originally posted by poopka: Mr. Egypt I set the rules in my threads not you. There are things that I think is worth discussing to come back to myself with certain knowledge. It is not a horse race for me as it is probably for you. So if you see me ignor a question carry on and realize that is not on my top priorities to go back and forth with it. Same way you don't feel like you want to post an answer, be it, ignor it, you don't have to jump up all around and nag why didn't I answer your other threads. We are not in a kindergarten here.
I just want to show the readers what kind of person you are. you are not here for a discussion otherwise you would answer the questions addressed to you especially when you are the one who made it. and you didnt also answer, why you lie ? you said you counted the words for 7 days, as if you spent all the 7 days , all day long and all night long counting the words, when you want to lie, make the lie seems to be real so we may swallow it Posts: 1201 | From: Egypt | Registered: Mar 2006
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quote:Originally posted by Dalia_06: Just because something appears on the internet many times doesn't make it right. This passage has been posted on here before – it's a hoax.
it is a hoax only in your mind
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quote:Originally posted by Dalia_06: Right. I forgot that you're an expert on German history.
did you know that yourself, or someone else told you? and for your information, not only German history, British history as well and more coming soon and since we are talking about polygamy I would like to tell you the story of Bertrand Russell, who was a severe opponent of polygamy. two women, besides his grandmother, played an important role in his life. One was his wife, Alice, and the other was his sweet-heart, Morrel. Morrel who was one of the most prominent women of that period, was on friendly terms with a number of the writers of the early 20th century. Evidently such a man could not support polygamy. Apparently it was Russell’s extra marital love which put an end to his relations with Alice. He himself writes that one afternoon, while he was going on a bicycle to a summer resort in the suburbs, he suddenly felt that he no longer loved Alice.
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actually, i see that popka is so intelligent. you are really. asking these question indicate you are intelligent. and i like those intelligent people.
so I'm welcoming to all your questions.
In a respectful way, We all can discuss this.
so i ask Allah to give me and muslim the power to help those intellgent people who ask intelligent questions.
I'm speaking frankly really.
So I respect all your questions about islam.
Also i can see that dalia also is so intelligent.
Regards andwith all respect
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quote:Originally posted by islamonfocus.com: this is to protect your hair. recently they discover that veil is good for hairs. God knew better that us. and the scietists in these days find out it. i read this report recently.
If that is true, then I suppose men should take a veil as well. Why don't we just acknowledge a simple fact? The fact that the veil was the dress code AT THE TIME instead of being scientific and apologetic.
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men's hairs is different from women's hairs. i read a scientific research on that. men hair is much more stronger than women.
It's my job. i'm pharmacist. my job is to read reseaches. i find out that all scientific researches are application of islam religion instruction. so I strongly believe in islam. Thanks Allah who grant me the brain that i can understand better.
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quote:Originally posted by poopka: [QB] 1-I can't understand how a God let a man marry 4 women at one time?
004.003 YUSUFALI: If ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly with the orphans, Marry women of your choice, Two or three or four; but if ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one, or (a captive) that your right hands possess, that will be more suitable, to prevent you from doing injustice.
That is the verse in Quran. As it says, the man must 'deal justly' with them. This means not treating any better than the other(s). Showing also that the man must be able to afford more than one wife, as in Islam it is the man's responsibility to feed and clothe his wives and give them all they need. It also says if you cant do this then to marry only one.
quote: 2-I can't understand why Islam seek the death for people who convert out of it???
Death is only for those that leave Islam and attack Muslims and Islam. If they leave of thier own free will and go about whatever their business they have a right to do that, no one can be forced into Islam or forced to stay in the religion, Islam is in the hearts of Muslims, Allah knows fully what is in the heart therefore if one says he is muslim for fear of being killed but his heart says otherwise, Allah will know.
quote: 3-God created us with BEAUTIFUL hair, against the nature of this hair is to cover it at all times "Hejab", he created it this way for us to enjoy it under the sun not only in closed doors???
Dont you see the wonders of science now creating shampoo and conditioner for 'sun damaged hair'? Mary (pbuh) was covered, nuns are covered and as you say by their own choice!! so are muslim women by thier own choice. We are not forced to wear the hijab, its our choice to do so. Its also our choice not to show our bodies to all and sundry, but only to our husbands.
quote: 4- Why christians and Jews are enemies to Islam, why these verses???
What verses? will get back to this
quote: 5-why prophet mohamad failed to raise the dead and heal the sick like Jesus?
All prophets had their own miracles. Moses, Noah, Jesus and Mohammed (pbut) among many others.
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quote:Originally posted by poopka: 1-I can't understand how a God let a man marry 4 women at one time?
God let others marry 700 at one time, read the bible.
and before you say dont refere to the old testament though it is not my problem you dont believe in it anymore, where do you see Jesus condemned polygamy in the new testament? there are christians who believe in polygamy until now.
quote:2-I can't understand why Islam seek the death for people who convert out of it???
islam isnt the only religion that seek the death for apostates, christianity too. where? here Deuteronomy 13:6-9 "If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying: Let us go and worship other gods (gods that neither you nor your fathers have known, gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other, or gods of other religions), do not yield to him or listen to him. Show him no pity. Do not spare him or shield him. You must certainly put him to death. Your hand must be the first in putting him to death, and then the hands of all the people."
Deuteronomy 17:3-5 "And he should go and worship other gods and bow down to them or to the sun or the moon or all the army of the heavens, .....and you must stone such one with stones and such one must die."
2 Chronicles 15:13 "All who would not seek the LORD, the God of Israel, were to be put to death, whether small or great, man or woman."
before you say I am quoting from the old testament though it is not my problem that you dont believe it, but I will show you where also in the new testament:
Romans 1:20-32 "20. For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities--his eternal power and divine nature--have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse. 21. For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22. Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23. and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like mortal man and birds and animals and reptiles. 24. Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25. They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator--who is forever praised. Amen. 26. Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. 27. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion. 28. Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done. 29. They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30. slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31. they are senseless, faithless, heartless, ruthless. 32. Although they know God's righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them."
so why those who do these things deserve death? where is the freedom of choice?
quote:3-God created us with BEAUTIFUL hair, against the nature of this hair is to cover it at all times "Hejab", he created it this way for us to enjoy it under the sun not only in closed doors???
"If a woman does not cover her head, she should have her hair cut off; and if it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut or shaved off, she should cover her head. A man ought not to cover his head, since he is the image and glory of God; but the woman is the glory of man. 8For man did not come from woman, but woman from man; neither was man created for woman, but woman for man." 1 Corinthians 11:6-9
quote:4- Why christians and Jews are enemies to Islam, why these verses???
what verses??
quote:5-why prophet mohamad failed to raise the dead and heal the sick like Jesus?
Jesus didnt raise the dead and healed the sick, he himself said:
"I can of myself do nothing. [John 5:30]
and even if the prophet Muhammad didnt perform any miracles , it doesnt mean he isnt a prophet, we see in the bible John the baptised didnt do any miracles "and many people came to him. They said, "Though John never performed a miraculous sign, all that John said about this man was true." john 10:41
and it is well known that John was a prophet
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and since we are talking about polygamy I would like to tell you the story of Bertrand Russell, who was a severe opponent of polygamy. two women, besides his grandmother, played an important role in his life. One was his wife, Alice, and the other was his sweet-heart, Morrel. Morrel who was one of the most prominent women of that period, was on friendly terms with a number of the writers of the early 20th century. Evidently such a man could not support polygamy.
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