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A British school teacher has been arrested in Sudan accused of insulting Islam's Prophet, after she allowed her pupils to name a teddy bear Muhammad.
Colleagues of Gillian Gibbons, 54, from Liverpool, said she made an "innocent mistake" by letting the six and seven-year-olds choose the name.
Ms Gibbons was arrested after several parents made complaints.
After reading this report, I have a question to ask.....
Why is it wrong to name a Teddy 'Muhammad' yet lots of childern have the name 'Muhammad'?
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British teacher faces 40 lashes in Sudan for naming a teddy bear Mohamed
"Miss Gibbons faces six months in prison, a fine or 40 lashes if convicted of insulting the Prophet Mohamed."
It's okay that hundreds of thousands of maniacal sociopaths are named Mohammed, but call an innocent teddy bear that and Islamic Rageboy shows up.
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This is a good example as to why mindcrime laws about insulting religion are entirely unacceptable.
"The country's state-controlled Sudanese Media Centre reported that charges were being prepared 'under article 125 of the criminal law' which covers insults against faith and religion."
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Oh dear...so no one is prepared to answer the question I put.....
Why is it wrong to name a Teddy 'Muhammad' yet lots of children have the name 'Muhammad'?
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That indeed is a real sad story and I hope that the British Embassy will be able to work out a deal with the Sudanese authorities and release her very soon.
And yes for her own safety she needs to be put on the next plane back to the UK.
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quote:Originally posted by Pink cherry: Oh dear...so no one is prepared to answer the question I put.....
Why is it wrong to name a Teddy 'Muhammad' yet lots of children have the name 'Muhammad'?
It isn't wrong, but it doesn't make sense. Not making sense isn't a crime though.
Muhammad means he's praised because of his personality traits (I'm sure this isn't the best translation, it's mine).
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I was saddened by this story. She never named the bear it was the children. I hope that things can be sorted out.
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quote:Originally posted by Pink cherry: Oh dear...so no one is prepared to answer the question I put.....
Why is it wrong to name a Teddy 'Muhammad' yet lots of children have the name 'Muhammad'?
Dunno! I had a quick look at the article today and it seems to me to be yet another example of excessive misinterpretation/over-sensitivity.
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SUDAN was facing international sanctions last night after hacking off the little paws of a three year-old teddy bear.
The cuddly toy was found guilty of blasphemy after taking the name of the prophet Muhammad, in defiance of the country's strict Islamic teddy-bear naming laws.
A spokesman for the Sudanese ministry of justice defended the sentence, adding: "This is an act of mercy.
"Our laws demand that blashpeming toys be stripped to their underwear and stoned to death before their bodies are thrown into the desert as an afternoon snack for the vultures.
"By removing only the paws of this infidel we are demonstrating great restraint. This is a gesture of goodwill to you Western devils and your pornographic governments."
He added: "How would you react if your child named a teddy bear after Jesus, John the Baptist or even Tom Hanks?
"Would you not decapitate the toy, thrash the child and throw the teacher off a cliff to be devoured by ravenous killer whales?"
The United Nations and Amnesty International have called for the release of more than 2500 cuddly toys imprisoned without trial since early September.
A UN spokesman added: "Of course, some may argue there is no point in us keeping all these Sudanese children alive if they can't even think of a legal name for a teddy bear."
The bear was named following a classroom vote, with 'Muhammad' chosen ahead of 'Paddington', 'Baloo' and 'Al-Hassan, the Terrible Golden Sword of Righteousness'.
BUT I am still very disturbed by the whole situation. And yet no one can give me a logical response to a perfectly ordinary question. Although Letio did try.... Posts: 643 | From: Over there | Registered: Aug 2007
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quote:Originally posted by Pink cherry: BUT I am still very disturbed by the whole situation. And yet no one can give me a logical response to a perfectly ordinary question.
Sometimes we as Muslims are also confused by what some other Muslims do, even when what is claimed to be done is done in the name of the religion, as it doesn't fit in with our beliefs/understanding of Islam; in the same way that Christians get confused by what some other Christians do in the name of Christianity.
Not everything has a logical explanation for those looking on. As I said, to me it is not logical, it is yet another example of excessive misinterpretation/over-sensitivity.
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You have a point there Newcomer. But, with more and more extreme situations as this, and fundamentalists hi jacking from both sides, Islam is never going to have a 'good profile' As you will be well aware I am not a Muslim, but I like to ask questions, listen to the 'other' point of view.....in all matters. I don't have to agree, but I like to listen to informed people who can put across points without disrespecting the other persons ideas.
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quote:Originally posted by Pink cherry: You have a point there Newcomer. But, with more and more extreme situations as this, and fundamentalists hi jacking from both sides, Islam is never going to have a 'good profile' As you will be well aware I am not a Muslim, but I like to ask questions, listen to the 'other' point of view.....in all matters. I don't have to agree, but I like to listen to informed people who can put across points without disrespecting the other persons ideas.
So what that means that people need to study Islam from reliable sources and look at it carefully, and not accept everything that is said by everyone.
There are many different understandings of Islam, many that fall within the boundaries and many outside, but all Muslims share the same core beliefs/creed. So if you start by looking at the fundamental beliefs, and understanding them well, it will make it easier to understand the more marginal issues. It's like learning any subject, if you try to learn the graduate level issues without having a basic BA grounding it will be much more difficult to analyse the information and come to a sound conclusion.
I too have no problem discussing matters about Islam, to the level of my ability and knowledge, with anybody who wants to do so in a respectful manner and seem truly interested in wanting to understand. But if they then turn round and insult Islam or Muslims, or others join in to do so, I'm afraid that I step out of the discussion. So feel free to ask and I, and I'm sure others, will be happy to join in if the discussion remains civil.
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Update: British officials were today battling to free a British schoolteacher imprisoned in Sudan after letting her pupils name a teddy bear Muhammed.
Gillian Gibbons was facing a second day of interrogation after being grilled for five hours yesterday.
She has now been moved from a local police station in Khartoum to the headquarters of the country's criminal investigation department for questioning by English-speaking officers.
The 54-year-old, who has been detained on suspicion of insulting the prophet, faces up to 40 lashes or six months in jail.
But there was specualtion today that the British woman could be charged with sedition, a far more serious charge than insulting Muslims, which carries a more severe sentence.
Fellow teachers at Khartoum’s Unity High School told Reuters news agency they feared for Ms Gibbons’ safety after receiving reports that men had started gathering outside the police station where she was being held.
The school’s director, Robert Boulos, said: “This is a very sensitive issue. We are very worried about her safety. This was a completely innocent mistake. Miss Gibbons would have never wanted to insult Islam.”
40 lashes for naming a bear big Muhammad? Well okay. Now 200 lashes for being gang raped doesn't seem so bad.
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quote:Originally posted by Pink cherry: See what you mean Newcomer....
BUT I am still very disturbed by the whole situation. And yet no one can give me a logical response to a perfectly ordinary question. Although Letio did try....
It could be because Teddy Roosevelt was a Zionist agent.
Too bad some Muslims regard a teddy bear being named Mohammad, but not terrorist murderers having that name, to be an insult to Islam.
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It is seen as an insult to Islam to attempt to make an image of the Prophet Muhammad. By the same logic, isn’t every photo of a boy named Mohammed a similar offense? Ah well
Any how how did they know the Teddy bear was MALE .
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This is such sad news. It is claimed in one of the papers that no parents complained but one teacher did - who happens not to like the headteacher and wants him out!
I really feel bad for this lady, she has only been there since september.
With all the horrors that are happening in Sudan - what a Joke! - this poor women.
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A boy of seven taught by the British woman who is facing 40 lashes for naming a teddy bear Mohammed said yesterday: "It's all my fault".
However, her pupil insisted Mrs Gibbons had not intended to insult Islam - and that he had named the teddy bear after himself.
Sitting in his garden in shorts, alongside his family, he said: "The teacher asked me what I wanted to call the teddy. I said Mohammed. I named it after my name."
His relatives, who did not give the boy's full name, urged him to describe what happened.
The child said he was not thinking of Islam's Prophet when asked to suggest a name, adding that most of the class agreed with his choice.
Yesterday, Mrs Gibbons was said to be struggling to cope with conditions in her Sudanese cell.
•THREAT OF TEN YEARS IN JAIL
In Sudan there was speculation that Mrs Gibbons could face a more serious charge than originally discussed.
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I think this to fulfill what Jesus said in.
Luke 21:12
12 men will seize you and persecute you; they will hand you over to the synagogues and to imprisonment, and bring you before kings and governors because of my name
17 You will be hated by all men on account of my name,
18 but not a hair of your head will be lost.
19 Your endurance will win you your lives.'
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One reason its wrong to give the bear that name is because teddy bears are representations of wild animals.it is not allowed to have pictures or representations of animals, people, or statues. generally animals are not given names at all, as they are dirty and not capable of recognising what God is, or serving God. If they were being ultra strict here they would want to know how a teddy got into the school in the first place. strict families would not allow their children to have such toys, or any clothing depicting such animals. Ive not heard of any bears being called Jesus, and if she had chosen the name Abd ullah, as some report suggested she might have done, she may be in even more trouble. Anyone going to teach in such a culture should research it first. Whats normal and inoffensive in our culture may not be in others, and why do we in the west always assume our culture and views make perfect sense and are therefore the correct ones? Thats typical colonialist style judgement. Look what happens when a devote muslim come to the west wearing niqab? which makes perfect sense to them were they come from, but not here? Everyone lables them fundamentalist and suggests that they should do here as we do. Or, when a newcomer to the west keeps chicken or sheep and ritually slaughters them for meat in their own back yard? Its what they do back home, and acceptable, but when here - they must do as we demand. This teacher is in the same situation. Its pure ignorance and bad decision making on her part, and obviously not a purposeful act of disrespect, which is why I hope it comes to a swift, pleasant conclusion, but never the less, its an offensive thing in Sudan. Being guided by such small children is irresponsible to.
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But Aishah (may Allah be pleased with her) used to play with dolls and toy horses...so that would negate that argument.
Narrated Aisha, Ummul Mu'minin: "When the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) arrived after the expedition to Tabuk or Khaybar (the narrator is doubtful), the draught raised an end of a curtain which was hung in front of her store-room, revealing some dolls which belonged to her.
He asked: What is this? She replied: My dolls. Among them he saw a horse with wings made of rags, and asked: What is this I see among them? She replied: A horse. He asked: What is this that it has on it? She replied: Two wings. He asked: A horse with two wings? She replied: Have you not heard that Solomon had horses with wings? She said: Thereupon the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) laughed so heartily that I could see his molar teeth. (Sunan Abu Dawud, Book 41, Number 4914)
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quote:Originally posted by Black Dahlia: Being guided by such small children is irresponsible to.
How irresponsible..letting the kids vote.
If they can name children after Muhammed why not a teddy bear? It is beloved. It is not like naming Piglet Muhammed.
I would have felt good about small children naming a cuddly, loveable teddy bear after me...it shows the children love me enough to honor me with something they love. That is so cliche, the bear holding a heart that says, "I Love You."
The teddy bear is the insulted party in this whole thing!
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After watching the video from Malaysia of the man receiving what seemed to be 20 lashes (flogging), I don't see how a 54-year-old woman could survive 40.
She's been arrested for simply having part in naming a teddy bear Mohammed. This is the most obscene kind of satanic comedy imaginable.
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quote:Originally posted by Black Dahlia: One reason its wrong to give the bear that name is because teddy bears are representations of wild animals.it is not allowed to have pictures or representations of animals, people, or statues.
That's one interpretation of many. Nobody has the right to force everybody else to follow his / her particular interpretation.
quote:Originally posted by Black Dahlia: they are dirty and not capable of recognising what God is, or serving God.
First of all, not all animals are necessarily dirty. Secondly, whether they are able to recognize God or not is not up to us to decide, although some verses might lead to the conclusion that indeed they do. Thirdly, animals are mentioned in the Qur'an several times, and we are explicitly asked to reflect over their creation, for example. So how can you say they are not *serving* God and make such derogatory statements about them?
Do you not realize that everyone in the heavens and the earth glorifies GOD, even the birds as they fly in a column? Each knows its prayer and its glorification. GOD is fully aware of everything they do. (24:41)
All the creatures on earth and all the birds that fly with wings are communities like you. We did not leave anything out of this book. To their Lord, all these creatures will be summoned. (6:38)
Why do they not reflect on the camels and how they are created ? (88:17)
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quote:Originally posted by Black Dahlia: generally animals are not given names at all, as they are dirty and not capable of recognising what God is, or serving God.
How about all those criminals in jail who are muhammeds? so a cute little teddy bear called muhammed offends muslims but criminal muhammeds don't?
Maybe this is why Sudan is slaughtering the people of Darfur, maybe some little boy in Darfur named his teddy bear Mohammed. What gentle, spiritual people these "Muslims"!
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quote:Originally posted by Undercover: After watching the video from Malaysia of the man receiving what seemed to be 20 lashes (flogging), I don't see how a 54-year-old woman could survive 40.
She's been arrested for simply having part in naming a teddy bear Mohammed. This is the most obscene kind of satanic comedy imaginable.
Different cultures undercover, different cultures. I mean it was only 60 or so years ago when the English colonized and raped Sudan and I’m sure that is still in the back of the minds of many people there. Given this fact and given the fact that she is English she should have been extra careful.
But I don’t think they’ll flog her like they do men and certainly not in a way to kill her because frankly that would cause a diplomatic crisis. Many years ago when Clinton was president an American teenager was found guilty of graffiti in Singapore and President Clinton pled on his behalf. The Singaporean government reduced his lashings in half … given that these are African Arabs they’ll probably pardon the woman.
Point of all of this: Don’t Mess With The Asians!!! President Clinton made repeated pleas and they still caned the kid – his butt was so sore he slept on his stomach for 2 weeks.
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quote:Originally posted by Exiled: I mean it was only 60 or so years ago when the English colonized and raped Sudan and I’m sure that is still in the back of the minds of many people there. Given this fact and given the fact that she is English she should have been extra careful.
It certainly is...that was why the mother of a Sudanese man who wanted to marry me once refused to give him her blessing for it...because I was British!
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quote:Originally posted by Exiled: I mean it was only 60 or so years ago when the English colonized and raped Sudan and I’m sure that is still in the back of the minds of many people there. Given this fact and given the fact that she is English she should have been extra careful.
It certainly is...that was why the mother of a Sudanese man who wanted to marry me once refused to give him her blessing for it...because I was British!
That’s unfortunate as is this situation with this woman. The thing that is obvious yet many are too blind to accept and see is that this issue is more than just religious. The contempt is from both sides – I was reading what the English posters(from undercovers link) had to say about all of this and many were saying “those people live in the dark ages” and another one added “we shouldn’t give them our tax money” … etc
The thing is what tax dollars?? … What about compensation for the thousands of Sudanese killed by the British and speaking of dark ages was it not the English who had one of the nastiest empires? Short memories – contempt is very much alive and this dumb lady is in the mix.
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Teddy bear teacher Gillian Gibbons release possible very soon
Mohamed Osman
November 29, 2007 12:00am
A BRITISH teacher arrested for allowing her students to name a teddy bear Muhammad will probably be cleared and released soon, a spokesman for the Sudanese embassy in London said.....
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The African "islamic" psychos are often more deranged than their Arab counterparts. I guess that's due in part to their inferiority complex after years of enslavement by Arabs, and an overwhelming need to show the evil Western white world how strong and tough they are. Imprisoning a white European teacher on a mission of mercy should do the trick.
There are thousands of psychotic, terrorist Muhammads running loose in the world but I almost forgot, those are the good guys. A stuffed teddy bear is an evil symbol of the West; how dare this blasphemous icon of corruption be used to ridicule the blessed prophet. These people are totally insane.
I would find the muslim's outrage more credible if it were an actual animal and not a cloth reproduction of one. I think that this is just an excuse to inflict a barbaric indignity on a citizen of a country they don't like. It seems like blowback for the British criticism of the Sudanese government's policy of allowing genocide to occur within it's borders.
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quote:Originally posted by Undercover: The African "islamic" psychos are often more deranged than their Arab counterparts. I guess that's due in part to their inferiority complex after years of enslavement by Arabs, and an overwhelming need to show the evil Western white world how strong and tough they are. Imprisoning a white European teacher on a mission of mercy should do the trick.
There are thousands of psychotic, terrorist Muhammads running loose in the world but I almost forgot, those are the good guys. A stuffed teddy bear is an evil symbol of the West; how dare this blasphemous icon of corruption be used to ridicule the blessed prophet. These people are totally insane.
I would find the muslim's outrage more credible if it were an actual animal and not a cloth reproduction of one. I think that this is just an excuse to inflict a barbaric indignity on a citizen of a country they don't like. It seems like blowback for the British criticism of the Sudanese government's policy of allowing genocide to occur within it's borders.
Well we could all breathe a sigh of relief now - the teacher is free.
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DALIA, UNDERCOVER - dont throw a wobbly so !
Intelligent discussion can mean " NOT ALWAYS MY OWN PERSONAL VIEW " But, more the POSSIBLE REASONS why things happen. To help us understand more about WHY certain things happen, and not to always judge other too harshly for their actions as they different concepts, cultures, upbringing, religious beliefs etc etc.
I was expressing one of these "possible reasons" - which is why I did add the bit you left out............"Its pure ignorance and bad decision making on her part, and obviously not a purposeful act of disrespect, which is why I hope it comes to a swift, pleasant conclusion, but never the less, its an offensive thing in Sudan....."
As for various terrorists (proven or assumed, by virtue of their religion ) etc. being named Mohammed - Im sure their parents did not assume they would become such when they reached adulthood. You dont have a baby and choose a name depending on what type of human being it will become in the future. Or, are you thinking that all terrorists - potential terrorists - who happen to be named Mohammed should change their names so westerners dont accuse them of defaming the Prophet?
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Last Updated: Wednesday, 28 November 2007, 11:23 GMT
What can't be named Muhammad?
British teacher Gillian Gibbons stands accused of insulting Islam's Prophet after allowing her pupils in Sudan to name a teddy bear Muhammad. What are the rules on using the name?
The Arabic name Muhammad is now the second most popular name for baby boys in Britain, adding together its 14 different spellings in English.
Muslim families - of which there are an increasing number in the UK - often choose names which honour the Prophet or show a link to their religion in another way.
Some say Muhammad can only be given to boys, others are less strict But is it acceptable to name a toy Muhammad? The arrest of Ms Gibbons has sparked debate in Islamic circles. As is the case in so many religious matters, the question is open to interpretation.
The issue has been a vexed one for Muslims through the ages. Some believe that the name can only be given to boys - to give it to an object is idolatry. Others say that pets and toys can bear the name.
Ibrahim Mogra, chairman of the interfaith Muslim Public Affairs Committee and an imam in Leicester, says the name should be reserved for boys. "Some of us believe we are assured of heaven if we name our children Muhammad."
But he says it's ridiculous that Ms Gibbons is being punished for a "miscalculation".
Gillian Gibbons asked her class to name the bear "If someone clearly intends to insult and cause offence with a toy in the form of a pig, for example, and someone knowingly and intentionally names it Muhammad, we know exactly where they're going with it - the idea is to cause offence. If it's just a miscalculation, we don't need to go overboard."
Dilwar Hussain, of the Islamic Foundation, has no problem with a teddy bear called Muhammad. For some years, the Islamic Society sold a soft toy made for British Muslim children named Adam the Prayer Bear. "Adam is also the name of a Prophet."
Would it be acceptable to give a religious name to a pet? In much of the Muslim world, he says, animals are seen as functional and so are rarely given names.
Idolatry
But Adel Darwish, the political editor of The Middle East magazine, says that Muslim children - "like children everywhere" - give their pets the names of characters they liked, be it a religious figure, sports hero or pop singer.
"Millions of Muslim children in Muslim nations give their dolls, pets and teddies Muslim names of the Prophet and his mother, daughters and wives."
Gill Lusk, the associate editor of Africa Confidential and a specialist on Sudan, says the incident will have offended many in the country. As Sudan is a place where religion is never mocked or satirised, it's "unthinkable" that a toy or pet could be given a religious name.
"You're not supposed to give a religious name to any objects - it could be seen as idolatry."
But the majority of Sudanese people won't want to see Ms Gibbons in trouble for the naming of the teddy bear.
"People are very forgiving of foreigners, particularly Europeans. Nobody would think she was trying to offend them - they would just think she was ignorant."
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“Parents who name their son Muhammad believe that the name has an effect on their personality and future characteristics. They are saying that this boy will be of good character. Do you believe this does have an influence on their personality.
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quote:Originally posted by Tigerlily: "You're not supposed to give a religious name to any objects - it could be seen as idolatry."
I find it difficult to take seriously muslims who consider naming a teddy bear Mohammed idolatrous. It just sounds like another excuse to be violent and commit atrocious acts in the name of religion. Kind of like Orwell's Thought Police, they seek to punish anyone that they assume is thinking thoughts of which they do not approve. They probably think it is a good way to keep infidels in line. Too bad it does not seem to be working.
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quote:Originally posted by Tigerlily: "Millions of Muslim children in Muslim nations give their dolls, pets and teddies Muslim names of the Prophet and his mother, daughters and wives."
quote:Originally posted by Black Dahlia: just said on BBC news this woman has been charged now and not released !
Thats correct
I watched Sky news. They quoted the Muslim council of UK and the Ramadan council in UK ....saying that they thought it was sheer nonsense. But out side the UK foreign office it was said that most in Sudan government think they have gone OTT, but that someone in the government there has a bit of an agenda and want to take it further. Such as holding protests at Friday prayers. Which have already been planed..... Posts: 643 | From: Over there | Registered: Aug 2007
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This woman is being charged under a law against "insulting religion and inciting hatred" for allowing schoolchildren to name a teddy bear Muhammad.
Allah is SOOOOOO PISSED at this woman!!!!
see baby Allah (and his Mohammad dolly) in his diaper crying, boohooing...
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"Article 125 of Sudan's constitution, the law relating to insulting religion and inciting hatred...."
What about insulting our intelligence and any sane persons sense of justice?
Killing Christians in Darfur="perfectly acceptable"
Naming a teddy bear="inciting hatred"
Just curious about this barbarous turn of events, but will this poor English woman, who I presume is of Christian heritage now convert to Islam, after her 40 lashes, out of a 'Stockholm syndrome'? The whole thing is madness.
You can't help these people at any level, not even kindergarten, their world is hopelessly cursed with madness.
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quote:Originally posted by Black Dahlia: just said on BBC news this woman has been charged now and not released !
Oh that's a pity but she knows she's not alone as the British Government is and will do anything what they can do to help her.
British response
The office of Gordon Brown, Britain's prime minister, said David Miliband, the country's foreign minister, wanted to see the Sudanese ambassador "as a matter of urgency".
The purpose of the meeting was "so we can get a clear explanation for the rationale behind the charges and a sense of what the next steps might be", a spokesman for the prime minister's office said.
Further:
" What has happened was not haphazard or carried out of ignorance, but rather a calculated action and another ring in the circles of plotting against Islam," the Sudanese Assembly of the Ulemas said in a statement."
quote:Originally posted by Undercover: This woman is being charged under a law against "insulting religion and inciting hatred" for allowing schoolchildren to name a teddy bear Muhammad.
Allah is SOOOOOO PISSED at this woman!!!!
see baby Allah (and his Mohammad dolly) in his diaper crying, boohooing...
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! They're making fun of me!!!!
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
Is this meant to be funny this is one only single out country that is making a crap out of this and you write this ,does your God who happens to be my God say forgive them and tolerate your enemies .It does not help to make mockery out of ones faith even if some of its followers are going overboard on this woman .I think they are mad for doing what they do but she has a teacher going into a country run by the Shariah law should have had her wits about her ,but i hope she is released home soon her family must be going nuts i feel for her and them .
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quote:Originally posted by Black Dahlia: just said on BBC news this woman has been charged now and not released !
Oh that's a pity but she knows she's not alone as the British Government is and will do anything what they can do to help her.
British response
The office of Gordon Brown, Britain's prime minister, said David Miliband, the country's foreign minister, wanted to see the Sudanese ambassador "as a matter of urgency".
The purpose of the meeting was "so we can get a clear explanation for the rationale behind the charges and a sense of what the next steps might be", a spokesman for the prime minister's office said.
Further:
" What has happened was not haphazard or carried out of ignorance, but rather a calculated action and another ring in the circles of plotting against Islam," the Sudanese Assembly of the Ulemas said in a statement."
May be if he bribed them they might just take the bait what do you think Labour is good at that these days taking bribes .
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One of her class a little boy called Mohamed, asked for the bear to be named after him.
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A powerful Sudanese newspaper urged authorities to call a hardline Islamist leader linked to Osama bin Laden to give evidence at her trial, to stress how offensive the case was to Muslims.
Extreme Islamic groups said Mrs Gibbons "must die" and urged Muslims to hold street protests after prayers tomorrow.
The Muslim Council of Britain said it was "appalled" at the decision.
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