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I no longer celebrate Christmas but I can still remember how it was.
Ayisha, they don't celebrate it here for another 2 weeks or so. I doubt I will go though, my husband is sure we'll be lynched.
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The family is all coming over for prime rib and dungeness crab on Christmas Day!
I hope EVERYONE who enjoys the spirit of the season, whether for religous or mere merriment of tradition has a wonderful and peaceful holiday.
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Sounds nice , humanist. Have a wonderful time too. My kids wanted a special 'present' this year; since yesterday we have two cute, little rabbits. One is a very adventurous one, one sits still in his cot (not sure about this word) enjoying his food. Posts: 2932 | From: Just now and then | Registered: Nov 2006
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quote:Originally posted by Somewhere in the sands:
quote:Originally posted by Rumicrazieluv: (Santa will bring you a present Sands if you start to play nicer, but I have a feeling even before you reverted all you ever got was coal in the stocking )
I don't have a chimney in my flat whereby he could fit his fat @@@ through even if there was such as thing in reality called Santa Claus..
You guys work hard all day and night (slaving actually) and you lie to your kids that some fat man dressed in a suit with raindeer is going to bring them presents..giving Santa Claus all the credit for your hard work...How stupid and foolish.
The worst part is that some of you are liars to your children..you lie each and every year..shame on you!
And you want to make fun of the sandman..LOL [/QB]
Is this nonsens truh
Bukhari, Volume 6, Book 60, Number 380 'And was at a distance of but two bow-lengths or (even) nearer. So did Allah convey the Inspiration to His slave (Gabriel) and then he (Gabriel) conveyed that to Muhammad.' (53.10) He said, "Abdullah (bin Mas'ud) informed us that Muhammad had seen Gabriel with six hundred wings." Volume 1, Book 11, Number 660 The Prophet said, "Isn't he who raises his head before the Imam afraid that Allah may transform his head into that of a donkey or his figure (face) into that of a donkey?" Q. 72: 8 “And (the Jinn who had listened to the Qur'an said): We had sought the heaven but had found it filled with strong warders and meteors. 9. And we used to sit on places (high) therein to listen. But he who listeneth now findeth a flame in wait for him;"
Q. 67: 5 “And we have, (from of old), adorned the lowest heaven with Lamps, and We have made such (Lamps) (as) missiles to drive away the Evil Ones, and have prepared for them the Penalty of the Blazing Fire.” Posts: 366 | From: some day | Registered: Dec 2007
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quote:Originally posted by desertgirl: Sounds nice , humanist. Have a wonderful time too. My kids wanted a special 'present' this year; since yesterday we have two cute, little rabbits. One is a very adventurous one, one sits still in his cot (not sure about this word) enjoying his food.
when you tire of the mess they'll make - don't be shy to ask for rabbit soup recipe.
or we can just make some rabbit molokheya.
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Presents, presents... This is what I like the most hahaha - going now to collect them!!! Posts: 2807 | From: Europe | Registered: Nov 2007
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quote:Originally posted by With a name like Smuckers: I no longer celebrate Christmas but I can still remember how it was.
Ayisha, they don't celebrate it here for another 2 weeks or so. I doubt I will go though, my husband is sure we'll be lynched.
Duh!! of course they dont. silly me I'm still going on 25th Dec and a lot of people here are too been out for a meal with friends and shopping after. Never had so many 'Cul senna wa enta tayeebs' or 'Merry chritmases' in one night from Chritians AND many Muslims Posts: 15090 | From: http://www.egyptalk.com/forum/ | Registered: Jul 2004
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quote:Originally posted by Somewhere in the sands:
quote:Originally posted by Ayisha:
quote:Originally posted by Somewhere in the sands: Show me the examples of the Salaf greeting non-Muslims on thier so called holidays..OK OK, just show me one example, how's that!
I will if you show me one example of the salaf posting on the internet, just one example, hows that
Inshaa Allah I'm done replying to you (Ayisha) on this thread. No need to debate or aruge any further.
I have present the fatwa from Shaykh Uthaymeen (RA) one whom I am sure understood the Quran and ahadeeth better than you and I without a doubt. It (the fatwa) has served a purpose for those who want to benefit from it.
That's bullshit, why should Shaykh Utahaymeen understand the quran and ahadeeth more than us. Why do we muslims always rely on the opinion of sheiks and so called "religous figures" to tell us what islam is about. We are all educated intelligent people and we can read the quran and ahadeeth and make up our own decisions.
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The 1st two words out of your filthy move shows the make-up of your mashaa Allah character.
Two reasons why:
1. By the grace of Allah, Allah gave him the ability to learn and study the Quran and Ahadeeth professionally. Unlike you that's the path that he has choosen verse being a Engineer, Lawyer or Doctor.
2. Why you're off in Sydney working in whatever field you are working in (if you are working or not), Shaykh Uthaymeen (RA) worked in the field of Islamic studies, that was his profession. Just like you have one, he had one also and his was Islam.
Again the 1st two words from your filthy move tell us just how religious you are. I am sure you have never heard Shaykh Uthaymeen (RA) say what you have managed to say in two seconds.
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Rasul Allah – The Messenger of God Jesus in Islam
There are many differences between Islam and Christianity, but also similarities; Jesus has a significant role for Muslims too. Aiman Mazyek on the Islamic prophet known as Isa in the Koran
In the Koran, Jesus is one of the five great prophets One of the key aims of inter-religious dialogue is to highlight similarities alongside differences. In the Christian-Islamic dialogue, this can be done very effectively using the examples of Jesus Christ and the Virgin Mary. Both the prophet Jesus and his mother Mary are held in high regard within Islam.
A whole "Sura", a section of the Koran, is named after Mary. The prophet Muhammed said of her, "Allah hath chosen thee and purified thee, chosen thee above the women of all nations." According to Islamic teachings Mary's pregnancy is a sign from God. In Sura 3, verse 45 Mary turns to her creator shocked and asks, "My Lord! How can I have a child when no mortal hath touched me?"
And so in this miraculous way Jesus was born at the command of God, who had also produced the first human being, Adam, without an earthly father. In the Koran we read "The similitude of Jesus before Allah is as that of Adam; He created him from dust, then said to him: 'Be.' And he was." (Sura 3, 59)
High esteem accorded to Jesus within Islam
Muslims respect and look up to Jesus, treating him with the same esteem and honour reserved for the other messengers of God. The faithful, says the Koran, "believeth in Allah, His angels, His books, and His messengers. We make no distinction (they say) between one and another of His messengers." (Sura 2, 285) "His books" includes the Torah and the gospels, which Muslims believe in as the word of God sent down to earth.
The also explains why Muslims feel offended when he is sometimes represented in an insulting manner in films and caricatures, or when his honour is discredited in books. Many Muslims feel just as much sadness or outrage at the denigration of Jesus as they would if it were Mohammed.
Both Christians and Muslims believe in a God who created us human beings, the world and the universe and who knows the beginning and the end. Muslims however believe that God is and remains one and indivisible (Sura 5, 116) Jesus, unlike in Christian teachings, is not the son of God:
"It is not befitting to (the majesty of) Allah that He should beget a son. Glory be to Him! when He determines a matter, He only says to it, 'Be', and it is." (Sura 19, 35)
"I quicken the dead, by Allah's leave"
Jesus is God's messenger to his own people, the Jews, and so he is called Mahdi (messiah) and will walk on this earth once more before the day of resurrection.
All the prophets, including the prophet Jesus, are marked with wounds. In the Koran, Jesus speaks to his people: "I have come to you, with a Sign from your Lord." At the end of the same verse we read, "I heal those born blind, and the lepers, and I quicken the dead, by Allah's leave." (Sura 3, 49)
There is one other fundamental difference between Christianity and Islam's view of Jesus Christ. According to Islam, Jesus of Nazareth did not die on the cross. Jesus' enemies wanted to hurt him but, as it says in the Koran, "they plot and plan, and Allah too plans; but the best of planners is Allah." (Sura 8, 30)
And later: "They said (in boast), 'We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah,' but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them." (Sura 4, 157)
Most interpreters of the Koran understand these words to mean that the man crucified and killed by Jesus' enemies only appeared to be Jesus, but was in fact someone else. Ultimately the Koran says, "Allah raised him up unto Himself; and Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise." (Sura 4, 158)
When Christians celebrate the birth of Jesus at Christmas, it is also a happy day for Muslims, due to the great respect Isa enjoys within Islam.
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Not one (I'm going to say it again) NOT ONE example of the Prophet Muhammad sallallahu alayhi wassalaam celebrating Isa bin Maryaam (Jesus) (RA) birthday nor NOT a single example of the Salaf doing so. This show the importance of why the Rasulullah Muhammad ibn Abdullah sallallahu alayhi wassalam and his companions did NOT celebrate Christmas!
If it was that important or had any signficance you bet there would have been an authentic hadeeth informing Muslims to do so..
Sorry the proof is in the pudding.
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quote:Originally posted by Somewhere in the sands:
I have present the fatwa from Shaykh Uthaymeen (RA) one whom I am sure understood the Quran and ahadeeth better than you and I without a doubt. It (the fatwa) has served a purpose for those who want to benefit from it.
Yeah right. That's why he arrived at those amazing conclusions, for example that women driving cars *leads to many evils*, such as *women losing their modesty* or *a divorced woman going where she wants, whenever she wants and however she wants, for whatever purpose she wants*... or that women should be *perfected* by cutting off their genitals and thus *reducing their desire*.
I'm sure it took him decades of studying religion to arrive at those deep and meaningful insights. How can us small human beings dare competing with such intelligence and commitment to truth and justice?
How can us small human beings dare competing with such intelligence and commitment to truth and justice?
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Sorry Dalia..Everyone here knows "You" can't. Shouldn't you having Christmas dinner somehere? Did you get your "Merry Christmas" PM from Ayisha?
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1. Afrikaans - Geseende Kerfees en 'n gelukkigenuwe jaar 2. Bahasa/Malaysia - Selamat Hari Natal dan Tahun Baru 3. Albanian - Gëzuar Krishlindjet Vitin e Ri! 4. Arabic - I'D Miilad Said ous Sana Saida 5. Aramaic - Edo bri'cho o rish d'shato brich'to! 6. Armenian - Shenoraavor Nor Dari yev Soorp Janunt 7. Basque - Zorionak eta Urte Berri On! 8. Belorussian - Winshuyu sa Svyatkami i z Novym godam! 9. Bengali - Shuvo Baro Din - Shuvo Nabo Barsho 10. Bohemian/Czech - Prejeme Vam Vesele Vanoce a Stastny novy rok 11. Bulgarian - Chestita Koleda i Shtastliva Nova Godina 12. Cantonese - Seng Dan Fai Lok, Sang Nian Fai Lok 13. Creole/Seychelles - Bonn e Erez Ane 14. Croatian - Sretan Bozic 15. Danish - Glædelig Jul og godt nytår 16. Dutch - Vrolijk Kerstfeest en een Gelukkig Nieuwjaar! 17. Egyptian - Colo sana wintom tiebeen 18. Eritrean - Rehus-Beal-Ledeat 19. Estonian - Rõõmsaid Jõulupühi ja Head uut aastat 20. Farsi - Sal-e no mubarak 21. Fijian - Me Nomuni na marau ni siga ni sucu dei na yabaki vou 22. Finnish - Hyvää Joulua or Hauskaa Joulua - 0nnellista uutta vuotta 23. Flemish - Zalig Kerstfeest en Gelukkig nieuw jaar 24. French - Joyeux Noël et Bonne Année! 25. Georgian - Gilotsavt Krist'es Shobas & Gilosavt akhal ts'els 26. German - Fröhliche Weihnachten und ein glückliches Neues Jahr! 27. Greek - Kala Christougenna Ki'eftihismenos O Kenourios Chronos 28. Greenlandic - Juullimi Ukiortaassamilu Pilluarit 29. Hawaiian - Mele Kalikimaka & Hauoli Makahiki Hou 30. Hebrew - Mo'adim Lesimkha. Shanah Tova 31. Hindi - Shubh Naya Baras 32. Hmong - Nyob Zoo Xyoo Tahiab 33. Hungarian - Kellemes karácsonyi ünnepeket és Boldog újévet! 34. Icelandic - Gleðileg Jól og Farsaelt Komandi ár! 35. Indonesian - Selamat Hari Natal & Selamat Tahun Baru 36. Iraqi - Idah Saidan Wa Sanah Jadidah 37. Irish - Nollaig Shona Dhuit 38. Italian - Buon Natale e Felice Anno Nuovo 39. Japanese - Shinnen omedeto. Kurisumasu Omedeto 40. Javanese - Sugeng Natal lan warsa enggal 41. Kashmiri - Christmas Id Mubarak 42. Korean Sung Tan Chuk Ha 43. Kurdish - Seva piroz sahibe u sersala te piroz be 44. Latin - Pax hominibus bonae voluntatis 45. Latvian - Prieci'gus Ziemsve'tkus un Laimi'gu Jauno Gadu!+ 46. Lebanese - Milad Saeed wa Sanaa Mubarakah 47. Lithuanian - Linksmu Kaledu ir laimingu Nauju metu 48. Macedonian - Srekan Bozik I Nova Godina 49. Malayan - Selamat Hari Natal 50. Maltese - Nixtieqlek Milied Tajjeb u Sena Tajba 51. Mandarin - Kung His Hsin Nien bing Chu Shen Tan 52. Maori - Kia orana e kia manuia rava i teia Kiritimeti e te Mataiti Ou 53. Maya/Yucateco - Utzul mank'inal 54. Mongolian - Zul saryn bolon shine ony mend devshuulye 55. Nepali - krist Yesu Ko Shuva Janma Utsav Ko Upalaxhma Hardik Shuva & Naya Barsa Ko harkik Shuvakamana 56. Norweigan/Nynorsk - Eg ynskjer hermed Dykk alle ein God Jul og Godt Nyttår 57. Norweigan/Bokmål - God Jul og Godt Nyttår 58. Polish - Wesolych Swiat i Szczesliwego Nowego Roku. 59. Portuguese - Boas Festas e um feliz Ano Novo 60. Punjabi - Nave sal di mubaraka 61. Romanian - Craciun fericit si un An Nou fericit! 62. Russian - Pozdrevlyayu s prazdnikom Rozhdestva i s Novim Godom 63. Samoan - Ia manuia le Kilisimasi ma le tausaga fou 64. Scots Gaelic - Nollaig chridheil agus Bliadhna mhath ur! 65. Serbian - Sretan Bozic. Vesela Nova Godine 66. Sicilian - Bon Natali e Prosperu Annu Novu ! 67. Somali - ciid wanaagsan iyo sanad cusub oo fiican. 68. Slovakian - Vesele Vianoce a stastny novy rok 69. Slovene - Vesele bozicne praznike in srecno novo leto 70. Spanish - Feliz Navidad y Próspero Año Nuevo 71. Sudanese - Wilujeng Natal Sareng Warsa Enggal 72. Swahili - ºKrismas Njema Na Heri Za Mwaka Mpyaº 73. Swedish - God Jul och Gott Nytt År 74. Tahitian - Ia ora i te Noere e ia ora na i te matahiti 'api 75. Thai - Suksan Wan Christmas lae Sawadee Pee Mai 76. Turkish - Noeliniz Ve Yeni Yiliniz Kutlu Olsun 77. Ukrainian - Veseloho Vam Rizdva i Shchastlyvoho Novoho Roku! 78. Vietnamese - Chuc Mung Giang Sinh - Chuc Mung Tan Nien 79. Welsh - Nadolig LLawen a Blwyddyn Newydd Dda 80. Yiddish - Gute Vaynakhtn un a Gut Nay Yor 81. Zulu - Sinifesela Ukhisimusi Omuhle Nonyaka Omusha Onempumelel
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quote:Originally posted by Undercover: 59. Portuguese - Boas Festas e um feliz Ano Novo
Among all the posts you have made, I find this to be the most offensive . It is Feliz Natal not Boas Festas. Posts: 374 | From: men gheir laff w dawaran | Registered: Sep 2007
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quote:Originally posted by Somewhere in the sands: Not one (I'm going to say it again) NOT ONE example of the Prophet Muhammad sallallahu alayhi wassalaam celebrating Isa bin Maryaam (Jesus) (RA) birthday nor NOT a single example of the Salaf doing so. This show the importance of why the Rasulullah Muhammad ibn Abdullah sallallahu alayhi wassalam and his companions did NOT celebrate Christmas!
If it was that important or had any signficance you bet there would have been an authentic hadeeth informing Muslims to do so..
Sorry the proof is in the pudding.
Not one example of the prophet or his companions ever using a computer, a car or a mobile phone either I expect? Is there an authentic hadith saying you can?
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quote:Originally posted by With a name like Smuckers: I no longer celebrate Christmas but I can still remember how it was.
Ayisha, they don't celebrate it here for another 2 weeks or so. I doubt I will go though, my husband is sure we'll be lynched.
Duh!! of course they dont. silly me I'm still going on 25th Dec and a lot of people here are too been out for a meal with friends and shopping after. Never had so many 'Cul senna wa enta tayeebs' or 'Merry chritmases' in one night from Chritians AND many Muslims
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quote:Originally posted by Somewhere in the sands: The 1st two words out of your filthy move shows the make-up of your mashaa Allah character.
Two reasons why:
1. By the grace of Allah, Allah gave him the ability to learn and study the Quran and Ahadeeth professionally. Unlike you that's the path that he has choosen verse being a Engineer, Lawyer or Doctor.
2. Why you're off in Sydney working in whatever field you are working in (if you are working or not), Shaykh Uthaymeen (RA) worked in the field of Islamic studies, that was his profession. Just like you have one, he had one also and his was Islam.
Again the 1st two words from your filthy move tell us just how religious you are. I am sure you have never heard Shaykh Uthaymeen (RA) say what you have managed to say in two seconds.
BULLSHIT. and hey man doesn't islam encourage NOT judging people, don't you think that repeatedly using the words "your filthy mouth" is a bit judgmental. And by the way you are the one with the filthy mouth, you are the one who came into a nice cheerful thread and turned it into an awful argument. You are the one who called the entire USA Kafra, HOW DARE YOU! Only god decides who is Kafir and who is not NOT YOU. And by they way I'm not "off working in Sydney" I live in Sydney with my husband.
Back to the topic at hand. That Sheikh and others have their own backgrounds, cultural beliefs and opinions and they reflect this in their fatwas. That's why it is extremely important for every muslim to study the religoin and decide for themselves. IT IS THEIR DUTY. Besides that sheikh is not god or the Prophet (Pbuh) and I have a right to disagree with the interpretation of the text, especially when as I said I can read and write, and I can see that there's nothing in there that proves that what he is saying is right.
By the way this dependence on the opinions of religous figures, is what led to the downfall of Christianity. You should read history my dear fellow. And if we continue depending on them for the truth, it will unfortunatly, lead to the downfall of Islam too.
Ps: There was a fatwa a few months ago in Rose El Youssef about how a man should never sit in a chair immediatly after a woman because her body warmth is still there and it's sexually stimulating. Are you trying to tell me that I should assume that this Sheikh "has spent his whole life studying Islam while I was off working in Sydney" and assume he's right?. Every day there are ridiculous fatwas coming up (including the one you destroyed this thread with) and they are all BULLSHIT.
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BULLSHIT. and hey man doesn't islam encourage NOT judging people, don't you think that repeatedly using the words "your filthy mouth" is a bit judgmental. And by the way you are the one with the filthy mouth, you are the one who came into a nice cheerful thread and turned it into an awful argument. You are the one who called the entire USA Kafra, HOW DARE YOU! Only god decides who is Kafir and who is not NOT YOU. And by they way I'm not "off working in Sydney" I live in Sydney with my husband.
Back to the topic at hand. That Sheikh and others have their own backgrounds, cultural beliefs and opinions and they reflect this in their fatwas. That's why it is extremely important for every muslim to study the religoin and decide for themselves. IT IS THEIR DUTY. Besides that sheikh is not god or the Prophet (Pbuh) and I have a right to disagree with the interpretation of the text, especially when as I said I can read and write, and I can see that there's nothing in there that proves that what he is saying is right.
By the way this dependence on the opinions of religous figures, is what led to the downfall of Christianity. You should read history my dear fellow. And if we continue depending on them for the truth, it will unfortunatly, lead to the downfall of Islam too.
Ps: There was a fatwa a few months ago in Rose El Youssef about how a man should never sit in a chair immediatly after a woman because her body warmth is still there and it's sexually stimulating. Are you trying to tell me that I should assume that this Sheikh "has spent his whole life studying Islam while I was off working in Sydney" and assume he's right?. Every day there are ridiculous fatwas coming up (including the one you destroyed this thread with) and they are all BULLSHIT.
Such an eloquent response and from a Egyptian Muslimah (A Muslim woman) at that. Masha Allah. End of discussion (for me).
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*7ayat* thanks sister and you are absolutely right, but its falling on deaf ears in sands, deaf and blind as it says.
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quote:Originally posted by Ayisha: *7ayat* thanks sister and you are absolutely right, but its falling on deaf ears in sands, deaf and blind as it says.
You are always like the cheerleader for the quacks here on ES.
I hope you advised her about her filthy mouth in a private PM.
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sands thats twice I have seen you mention my PM's, have you been looking in them? If you have you will find I have not pm'd 7ayat nor have I given Merry Christmas wishes to Dalia, I wished everyone a Merry Christmas in here. I have also told you about your mouth in here.
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quote:Originally posted by WindBetweenEars: Duh!! of course they dont. silly me I'm still going on 25th Dec and a lot of people here are too been out for a meal with friends and shopping after. Never had so many 'Cul senna wa enta tayeebs' or 'Merry chritmases' in one night from Chritians AND many Muslims [/qb]
quote:Chritians whats this a new religion looks like GREMLINS babys critans
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quote:Originally posted by WindBetweenEars: Duh!! of course they dont. silly me I'm still going on 25th Dec and a lot of people here are too been out for a meal with friends and shopping after. Never had so many 'Cul senna wa enta tayeebs' or 'Merry chritmases' in one night from Chritians AND many Muslims
quote:Chritians whats this a new religion looks like GREMLINS babys critans
sorry, over enthusiastic on the keyboard. Here is the missing letter s [/QB]
Thats so much better i was worried we had competition AGAINST our beloved Islam .
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quote:Originally posted by Somewhere in the sands:
quote:Originally posted by Ayisha: *7ayat* thanks sister and you are absolutely right, but its falling on deaf ears in sands, deaf and blind as it says.
You are always like the cheerleader for the quacks here on ES.
I hope you advised her about her filthy mouth in a private PM.
La2 enta eli kalamak beyna2t 3asal! You called an entire country kafra we al eh za3lan 3ashan I used the word bullshit. Typical.
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One of the advantages of celebrating Christmas in January: You get to do your Christmas shopping during After-Christmas Sales, which have some of the best bargains around. Posts: 374 | From: men gheir laff w dawaran | Registered: Sep 2007
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