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I ran into an article yesterday saying that the "activists" in USA managed to postpone/cancel the play's opening next month. Too much for freedom of speech.
I heard that play on her life was a huge HUGE success in the UK.
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Relax... An American ship was destroyed before by Israel air force during the Arab Israeli war and nothing changed. Israel controls the US and there is no way for Arab to change this except through them standing on their feet and becoming stronger instead of whining and relying on the American sympathy.
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Rock, I definitely like the way u put words together! I love the "American sympathy"!! Love it love it! American sympathy only exists 50-100 years after mass destruction when a movie comes out that makes us cry with pain and gartitude bcz the gov is so generous to indirectly show some sort of hidden regret!! And we feel flattered bcz THE UNIVERSAL SAVERS have mentioned our name in a hollywood movie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ya raaaaaabiiiiiiiiiii...I love American sympathy.
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Funny way to try and get sympathy. Lets go blow something up and then have a party...............
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Here we go again, beating the drums for the 'lost cause.' It is ashame that the woman was killed but if she had been at home in America trying to improve her life she would be alive today. It may well be that nobody wants to see a play that supports a terror regime in Palestine.
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quote:Originally posted by Horemheb: Here we go again, beating the drums for the 'lost cause.' It is ashame that the woman was killed but if she had been at home in America trying to improve her life she would be alive today. It may well be that nobody wants to see a play that supports a terror regime in Palestine.
you can try to improve your life and there is no shame in that, but a better man whom try to improve the life of others. May be this is something you won't understand but at least such a person needs more respect rather than mocking.
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No , she needs to be mocked bibo for stirring the pot of violence in the middle east. I am always suspicious of these American far left types who claim they are for peace but really, when you scratch the surface are nothing more than american hating, far left radicals. Most of them are frustrated socialist or anarchist who hold the view that the enemy of my enemy is my friend. I'll guess that if you looked into her views she opposes the United states on almost everything. If I am wrong then I'll stand corrected.
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they will come and go just like the stars in the night.AND SO WILL THE WARS AND MANY DEATHS,HEY THATS THE WORLD WE LIVE IN ,,GET USE TO IT.
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quote:Originally posted by bibo1978: you can try to improve your life and there is no shame in that, but a better man whom try to improve the life of others.
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Its great if that is what she was doing. My guess is that she is a far left wacko whose real motive was to damage America. I doubt she gave a hoot about the palestinians.
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it will cost you only a few minutes to try and find out, read her letters to her family and friends before you put a label on her memory, her honor and what exactly she fought for. Your statement is damaging for America...
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quote:Originally posted by Horemheb: No , she needs to be mocked bibo for stirring the pot of violence in the middle east. I am always suspicious of these American far left types who claim they are for peace but really, when you scratch the surface are nothing more than american hating, far left radicals. Most of them are frustrated socialist or anarchist who hold the view that the enemy of my enemy is my friend. I'll guess that if you looked into her views she opposes the United states on almost everything. If I am wrong then I'll stand corrected.
You never read about her, so just stop judging people upon your suspicious mind ... and its turely that you turn out to be wrong evertime .. and you can't see it
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Bibo, From the standpoint of a barbarian who believes in discrimination against women and is opposed to free speech I suppose I would be wrong.
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quote:Originally posted by Horemheb: Its great if that is what she was doing. My guess is that she is a far left wacko whose real motive was to damage America. I doubt she gave a hoot about the palestinians.
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Describing me with barbaric is an honor for me when it comes from you .. it only proves that I am not .. thank you
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The ideology you abscribe to makes you a barbarian bibo. Thats why you will have American armies in the middle east for years to come. People like you have drained the vitality out of the region and are intent on keeping the region in the 7th century. Your fear of women has led to the stagnation of your own culture.
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quote:Originally posted by Horemheb: The ideology you abscribe to makes you a barbarian bibo. Thats why you will have American armies in the middle east for years to come. People like you have drained the vitality out of the region and are intent on keeping the region in the 7th century. Your fear of women has led to the stagnation of your own culture.
I am barbaric, I want to kill every man opposing me and I have said that I don't care if a 20 million dies so I may live in the "fake" safe I have (didn't you say that or you deny it) .. When someone like this says at someone like me I am barbaric doesn't this make me honored .. horemoheb although all of this I still like your honesty .. one other thing I am not afraid from women why should I be, you still judging me with no evidence .. and this is barbaric
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I don't think we want to kill everyone opposing us but we are going to have to kill the terrorists until they stop or there are none left. This is a serious world conflict and it highlights problems that cannot be quickly solved. Both of these philosophies cannot exist in the modern world together, that is clear. One will win and the other will become a page in the history books.
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you have some logic in this interpretation but do we really need to kill each other .. may be there is no other solution for mankind may be not , i hope that we don't have to kill each other, also I don't think a war is bad but killing innocents is for sure bad, bombing a nuke on a country is an unforgivable sin, anyways who knows what will come, as I said may be our children will see .. God may do the best and the best will reveal insha'allah
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bibo, I actully agree with your goals on this but smarter people than you and I are working on this and cannot find a solution. I will say this, Iran having a nuke is a disaster for world peace. They may very well try to use those weapons on Israel and if they do the retailiation could cost the lives of millions, both Jews and Muslims.
In the end you know that the United States would insure that the Jews that were left kept Palestine, so even the nukes will not remove the jews from Israel. the problem is there is a reasonable possibility these things could happen down the line at some point. When we bomb Iran's nuclear facilities Muslims will be squealing but it will not be a bad thing.
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The only way we would nuke Iran would be if they started throwing nukes. We will bomb their nuclear facilities. That will happen if they get close to actually having a nuke. President Bush was asked if there was any way Iran would be permitted to have a nuke, he answereed with one word, "none."
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quote:Originally posted by Horemheb: The only way we would nuke Iran would be if they started throwing nukes. We will bomb their nuclear facilities. That will happen if they get close to actually having a nuke. President Bush was asked if there was any way Iran would be permitted to have a nuke, he answereed with one word, "none."
i'm relieved
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quote:Originally posted by Horemheb: bibo, I actully agree with your goals on this but smarter people than you and I are working on this and cannot find a solution. I will say this, Iran having a nuke is a disaster for world peace. They may very well try to use those weapons on Israel and if they do the retailiation could cost the lives of millions, both Jews and Muslims.
In the end you know that the United States would insure that the Jews that were left kept Palestine, so even the nukes will not remove the jews from Israel. the problem is there is a reasonable possibility these things could happen down the line at some point. When we bomb Iran's nuclear facilities Muslims will be squealing but it will not be a bad thing.
Man a nuke in palastine is not a disaster for israeleans only it is for the entire area .. I dunno from where did you get the idea, it is only a play of balance forces, USA supports Isreal for no reason there are more muslims than jews in the area "palastine" also there is nothin that tells that Iran wants a nuke what is said is that they wants to do a nuclear power reactor, well this might be the only solution for power in the future. America as usual expect the worse even if this will never affect america at all, why are they playing the judge rule .. one thing for sure Iran would never bomb isreal with a nuke .. no way they will then kill more muslims than jews and there is no point of that ..
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bibo, Iran is a very radical state and has been since the 1970's. They are responsible for the deaths of more people through terror than any nation in the middle east. Nobody in the world believes that they are only trying to build a nuclear power reactor. They have even stated themselves that they have a right to have nuclear weapons and their new president has stated outright that Israel should be wiped from the face of the earth. Given all that we know about Iran it is not unrealistic that they would nuke Israel and in any event we simply cannot take the chance. You are incorrect that the US suppoorts Israel "for no reason." Nobody does something for no reason and there are many valid reasons why Israel has eared our support.
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quote:Originally posted by Horemheb: bibo, Iran is a very radical state and has been since the 1970's. They are responsible for the deaths of more people through terror than any nation in the middle east.
Garbage and can not be supported by facts. On the other hand what you said describes the state of Israel and that has been well documented.
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Iran is no more radical than China or UAE or Cuba. Any nation who criticizes US policy is automatically given the code word of "terrorism". I am not saying Iran is a saintly nation but it is standing up for its right like anyone else, and that is bad for US policy. If Iran, then who will criticize US policy? Don't you think?
Invading Cuba will obviously look bad for US and China is the next WalMArt nation for awhile due to economic benefits while UAE supports families of jihadist/shahid by paying them for loss incurred (suicide bombers-a hidden story so check it out). No one all bad or all good here but 2 sides to all stories.
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Yazid, Iran and China are not even close. We went all through that on this board sometime ago. The list of terror attacks sponsored by the Iranians was literally two feet long, single spaced. We are not talking about being critical of our foreign policy, we are talking about killing people on almost a monthly basis. China and the United states are joined at the hip economically, they are not an ongoing U.S. foreign policy problem and , in my view, will not be. There are two sides of every story but in tterms of world peace Iran is a major problem that is going to have to be dealt with, and will be.
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quote:Originally posted by Horemheb: bibo, Iran is a very radical state and has been since the 1970's. They are responsible for the deaths of more people through terror than any nation in the middle east. Nobody in the world believes that they are only trying to build a nuclear power reactor. They have even stated themselves that they have a right to have nuclear weapons and their new president has stated outright that Israel should be wiped from the face of the earth. Given all that we know about Iran it is not unrealistic that they would nuke Israel and in any event we simply cannot take the chance. You are incorrect that the US suppoorts Israel "for no reason." Nobody does something for no reason and there are many valid reasons why Israel has eared our support.
Man Isreal have more 1000 nuke .. they can kill all of Iranians in less than an hour !!! How can they nuke Isreal they will be doomed .. yet it is only a matter of equilibrium and still all is speculations and as usual it can be wrong like the massive destruction weapons
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First, That there were WMD's in Iraq was not incorrect. He used them on the Kurds and Iranians and we recently found some of the gas labs. As for Iran the idea in support of an attack on Israel is that they have a large enough population to absorbe the hit but that Israel could not. There is a certain twisted logic to that thinking. In addition the statements make by their President are very public and very clear to all. If he does not want us to take him seriously he should not say such things. No, you have to error on the side of a strike. If we are wrong the only thing that happens is that Iran does not get a bomb and a few nuclear facilities are destroyed. If we are right we may well be saving the region from a terrible expanded war.
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Man there was no WMD's in Iraq .. check out the last Condaliza's press confrenece !!!!!!!!!!! Isreal have a 1000 Nuke !!! the world can't survive this number of nukes .. but Iran would .. thank you for the information I am twisted logic thinking !!!!!!!! that's something thank you ... If US fought this war then truely believe me they will loose a lot it won't be an easy war .. believe it or not anyone knows this the US knows this and Europe knows this, tell me why US have to fight the war for Isreal .. is it a new state in the US and we don't know that ??
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Where did you get the information that Israel has 1000 nukes? That sounds high to me. Israel is a small country with a small population, much of it concentrated in a few areas. I did not say your logic was twisted. I said there was a certain twisted logic to Iran's view of attacking Israel. I do not think the United States would fight a 'war' with Iran. I do think we will attack their nuclear sites at some point. Israel is an American ally, just as is the UK. If an American ally is attacked we are bound by treaty to go to their defense, especially Israel and the UK.
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I don't recall his name but he was sentenced to jail and he just have been released a year or less ago .. can anybody remind me with his name, he was the one whom leak information about israel nuclear missile Why is Israel an alley to USA when all it do is just a burden on USA, unlike UK which was the first leader of the allies forces in WWIII and it has a big economical impact and it was for some time the most large empror in the world .. wasn't it? You can't compare Israel to UK
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bibo, I guess its possible but that does sound high. I know they have the Sampson Protocol which says that if Israel is ever faced with destruction every arab major city, Mecca and the Dome would all be destroyed.
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U think that they will destroy themselves then what the hack, it is better that they do it than you, you will loose a lot of money there and if they destroy themselves you can easily come to the area and free all the Oil to USA .. don't you think
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keep in mind bibo that anything we do we do in the best interest of the United states only. What nation are you from? Unless you are from Iran it is not in your interest to have Iran become the strongest power in the middle east. Keep in mind also that we get very little oil from Iran, if any but many of our trading partners do. Egypt is making progress and is a strong American ally in the region, Jordan is coming along. The big problems that are left are Iran and Syria. By the year 2010 neither of those countries will be a problem in the region as we'll have to deal with both of them in turn. At that point I think we can expect some stability in the middle east.
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What kind of interest .. SHOW ME, if you are not even interested in there oil .. then what is it you are fighting for, are you fighting some other's war !! Well although Iran says that it has no intentions of buidling a nuke, but you don't want anyone to have the technology here except Israel why? One other thing it is of our interest that in the region here there would be any country with nuclear power rather than Israel which already terrifies all the arabic nations .. !! Where is the reason in what you say
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What we want in the middle east is stability. That stability is necessary because the region contains over half of the worlds oil supply. what we do not want are Islamo facists governments like iran and the old iraq who have an agenda that might upset that stability.
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to finish bibo, Iran is a threat to stability in the middle east because it has an aggressive agenda. It has been a threat without nuclear weapons, much less with them. You need to also remember that many of the arab nations agree with us. Egypt and jordan are American allies, just as Israel is. Do not assume that because some muslims do not like America that their governments feel the same. No arab nation wants to see iran become the power in the region. Israel is a reliable American ally. We felt like after the Holocaust that they should have a homeland and thus one was created for them by the United Nations. They are more culturally western and have built a good relationship with us, as, I might add, has Egypt and Jordan. Both are strong American friends.
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and you believe what you are saying !! After the Holocaust we think that they need a nation then why didn't you give them California !! Paying tips from other's pockets !! Israel is an reliable American allie .. that's why they have invaded arabic land and they have violated the 67 UN decree, yeah they are reliable!! For USA may be because of the blind fold they are doing there, but they are not for those whom they have taken there lands and killed there people and children .. and they are not reliable to any nation in the area "middle east" .. they are not even reliable within themselves !!
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well bibo, thats your position. The United States is many things but stupid it is not. We did not become the world's only super power because we did not know what we are doing. Keep in mind also that our foreign policy is designed around what we consider best for OUR interest. That may not be what is best for you. We have an 'American' foreign policy, not a Palestinian foreign policy.
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you did not say we were blind? In any event Bibo, when you see the United States do something try to put yourself in our place and you will understand it better. I assume you are palestinian and I understand you have a problem but its not neccessarily our job to solve it.
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