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A little perspective on the immigration issue.
Working in Mexico
Is it legal for a foreigner to work in Mexico?
Yes, provided that you have the right permit. You are not permitted to travel to Mexico, enter as a tourist and seek gainful employment there. You must have the correct migratory permits to do so before you go.
Permits are gained from the Mexican Government and are issued to people who are sponsored by companies in Mexico (or foreign companies with Mexican operations / subsidiaries), or by people with specific skills required in Mexico. You can enter Mexico to work for a foreign company provided that you do not receive any remuneration directly from a Mexican company or subsidiary. Permits can also be arranged for investors (i.e. setting up your own company), but you'll need to invest 40,000 times the daily minimum salary in order to qualify. Casual investors (for example, buying stocks on the Mexican Stock Exchange) can also get resident permits, although as with direct investment, you will need to invest the same amount as above.
These mechanisms are in place to ensure that you will not be: a) taking jobs that Mexican nationals could otherwise have and/or; b) ensure that if you don't have an immediate income, you have the means to support yourself without relying on the Mexican State in any way.
What kind of work can foreigners do?
The kind of work you do will depend on your circumstances. If you are an employee of one of the many large multi-national corporations that have offices or manufacturing facilities in Mexico, you may be assigned to the country for a specified period of time, to report to the local management and carry out duties according to your specialist knowledge. In such circumstances, your company will normally take care of all the necessary legal paperwork and the logistics of the move to Mexico. You show up at the office with a brief and work at what it is you do best.
Some foreigners decide to move to Mexico and set up a small business there: perhaps a bar or a restaurant. Some people sell consulting services, either in business development, and especially in IT and Internet related fields.
Teaching English as a Foreign Language is a popular work placement. You will need to hold the TEFL certificate (as a minimum) and with it, you'll have a chance to work in one of the many private schools and language centers based in Mexico. Learning English is an absolute requirement for Mexicans who want a professional qualification. Most private schools teach at least half of their lessons (including math and sciences) in English.
Those with specialist skills and experience, plus the relevant qualifications are more likely to succeed in finding work than those who just show up in the hope of 'casual' work in Mexico.
Some foreigners go to Mexico to take part in community and social projects. By doing so, they help local people by sharing their knowledge and experience, while gaining unique and authentic access to the local ways of life, culture and language. See Contacts page for more information about these kinds of projects.
Do I have to reside in Mexico to work there?
Not necessarily; this will depend on your circumstances and work requirements.
If the work you plan to undertake will only take a few days or weeks, then you can use the business section of the tourist card (see Immigration Page - link below) and enter into Mexico without the need to complete additional paperwork and pay special business visitor permit fees. There's more about this here on the Immigration Page.
If your work requirements mean that you will need to be in Mexico several months or years, then you will need to consider a more permanent living arrangement. Further information about the migratory requirements of this are available in the Immigration Page, and if you want to discover what living is likely to be like, connect to the Living In Mexico Page
What Permits do I need to work in Mexico?
There are various different kinds of work permits available, depending on how long you want to stay and for what purpose. Connect to the Immigration Page for more details about the various permits.
If I need to live in Mexico, what do I have to do?
Moving to Mexico from Western Europe, or the US/Canada will be quite a complex logistical task, and forward planning is essential, especially if you're working there, and have a family to take with you. Connect to the Living In Mexico Page for more details.
Where can I get more advice about Doing Business in Mexico?
Connect to the Doing Business section on Mexperience for lots of information and advice about doing better business in Mexico.
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There is another resource, similar to the one posted here, detailing the "constitutional" rights provided to immigrants TO mexico. I don't have it handy on this pc - but it was interesting to see that there were many rights denied immigrants, including the opportunity to participate in demonstrations and to serve in various aspects of government.
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Umm, is the lady in the photo for real or is part of her body "photoshopped?"
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oooh you got me by reposting a link of what I openly posted in another thread!! I think you're onto something sonomod!! Posts: 13440 | Registered: Feb 2006
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maybe im not awake yet... perhaps after ive drank this coffee, the reason sonomod posted a link to that thread to show smuckers "real form" will suddenly become clear.....
untill then, heres another funny joke thread.... god, you really get to understand my true feelings for clowns...
quote:Originally posted by With a name like Smuckers: oooh you got me by reposting a link of what I openly posted in another thread!! I think you're onto something sonomod!!
You have no shame.
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Are you aware that the Mexican constitution permits no work or employment at all to a person who enters their country illegally?!
In fact, if you discovered to be an illegal immigrant (granted you are even able to sneak into the country) you are to be automatically arrested without a trial and put into jail!
Legal Mexican citizens can and are encouraged to to apprehend or call the authorities on anyone who is illegal!
And even then, naturalized citizens are treated 2nd place only to naturalized citizens, and the government can take away citizenship at any time they want and especially if they feel that the person is being seditious.
But in the US???
Illegals can protest the capitals in their own language and not English and can even wave Mexican flags while burn US flags!!
Do unto others indeed! Posts: 26307 | From: Atlanta, Georgia, USA | Registered: Feb 2005
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quote:Originally posted by Djehuti: And what about ILLEGAL immmigrants?!!
Are you aware that the Mexican constitution permits no work or employment at all to a person who enters their country illegally?!
In fact, if you discovered to be an illegal immigrant (granted you are even able to sneak into the country) you are to be automatically arrested without a trial and put into jail!
Legal Mexican citizens can and are encouraged to to apprehend or call the authorities on anyone who is illegal!
And even then, naturalized citizens are treated 2nd place only to naturalized citizens, and the government can take away citizenship at any time they want and especially if they feel that the person is being seditious.
But in the US???
Illegals can protest the capitals in their own language and not English and can even wave Mexican flags while burn US flags!!
Do unto others indeed!
Aren't you one of those Ancient Egypt freaks who contend that your ancestors colonized the Nile Valley?
Yup like you are a good judge of a racially charged nutjob!
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were talking about a thread of jokes. you yourself wanted to hear 'whitey' jokes... whats the difference? i just didnt, and still dont see why you put a link to that thread in here.
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I think we should not be as strict as Mexico because then america would not be a country of freedom.
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quote:Originally posted by concernedforwomen: I think we should not be as strict as Mexico because then america would not be a country of freedom.
At least when you do business with Mexico you have the USA embassy to back you up and get the federalees to follow their own rules.
If your a Mexican you could never ask for consistancy and to have your government follow their own laws and to treat you fairly according to the law.
Hands down Americans are still treated better than Mexicans in Mexico. I have worked in a few companies that doubled or tripled in size because of NAFTA, and had a business instructor in college that specializes in Logistics. Americans always come out ahead despite what smuckers considers "unfair".
A Rausch Limbaugh technique of only present a small fraction of the facts mixed in with opinionated lies doesn't do the situation justice.
Smuckers meet Horemheb. You two will share great times here on ES.
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quote:Originally posted by Organized Crime: Aren't you one of those Ancient Egypt freaks who contend that your ancestors colonized the Nile Valley?
Yup like you are a good judge of a racially charged nutjob!
Uh... if you pay attention to what we say there, then you would know that I nor any of the folks at the ancient Egypt section contend any such thing. Non of us claim any "ancestry" from Egypt but we acknowledge the FACT that Egyptians are indigenous Africans that many people would call 'black'.
LOL I acknowledge this yet I'm not black or of African ancestry at all! I'm of Asian descent and proud of it.
My mother came to this country LEGALLY, and I think it's a shame that she had to go through the process while some folks don't just cuz they live across the border.
I suggest you know what your talking about first before you open your mouth, "Organized Crime". Posts: 26307 | From: Atlanta, Georgia, USA | Registered: Feb 2005
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quote:Originally posted by Organized Crime: Aren't you one of those Ancient Egypt freaks who contend that your ancestors colonized the Nile Valley?
Yup like you are a good judge of a racially charged nutjob!
Uh... if you pay attention to what we say there, then you would know that I nor any of the folks at the ancient Egypt section contend no such thing. Non of us claim any "ancestry" from Egypt but we acknowledge the FACT that Egyptians are indigenous Africans that many people would call 'black'.
LOL I acknowledge this yet I'm not black or of African ancestry at all! I'm of Asian descent and proud of it.
My mother came to this country LEGALLY, and I think it's a shame that she had to go through the process while some folks don't just cuz they live across the border.
I suggest you know what your talking about first before you open your mouth, "Organized Crime".
I know your background.
I still think you are a fruit.
And I still consider most of those threads on AE to be total crap.
My mother came to this country LEGALLY, and I think it's a shame that she had to go through the process while some folks don't just cuz they live across the border.
Then why don't you vent your rage on African Americans as well?
I think its a complete shame that young men nowdays worship the hottest craze "hip-hop" and then reinvent themselves, putting all forms of critical thought aside.
I know young dudes (African Americans) who live in "hip-hop" 24/7 and these guys as much as they hate the racism they endure certainly have enough racism for "wet-backs" and "snake-eyes" and all that crap.
Then I know some other dudes (african Americans) who do rap and other forms, but understand racism and understand that while African Americans carried alot of pain and suffered tremendously, so did other non-whites.
Yes these Mexicans live across the border, but before the Spanish-American war 80% of the population to the north of Mexico City lived in the South West American proper. The Spanish-American war drove them to the south into Mexico. So most of the so-called immigrants who tranverse across that border are actually more American than you.
This is a tidbit your leader "Ausar" chose to exclude to make his brainwashing complete.
In adition to the fact that many "Asians" found on ocean frieght ships until the late 1990s were given amnesty and were automatically stamped "refugees" according to an agreement between the USA and many SE Asian countries.
Thats millions of Asian like your mother who were given a much simplier immigration status than a "neighboring" population that belongs in the USA.
So while your mother had to go through heck with the INS, your fellow Asians got a stamp-marked enterance that only a Mexican who is a Native of the USA could only dream of.
So go back to your ignorant "Nation of Ausar" bullsh*t and try not so hard to spew stupidity.
I understand immigration pretty darn well for a white chick, and something you can't learn from hip-hop.
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quote:Originally posted by yazid904: Vote Vicente Fox (Zorro) pa'l presidente de USA (Estados Unidos).
He has done more for illegals than even Bush. jajajeje
I don't think Bush has done anything but harm for illegals.
Seriously its like Bush wants to see 90% of small to mid-sized business in states that border Mexico to totally bite the dust.
I am sorry we need illegal aliens here because its so difficult for Mexicans to be granted legal status.
I do think Pres. Fox has brought down the federalee abuses to an all time low.
He shuffled the federalee bureaucracy a great deal so abuses and deaths are so easily hide from top levels of the government.
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quote:Originally posted by Organized Crime: I know your background.
I doubt that.
quote:I still think you are a fruit.
Think what you may, since your opinions about me don't even matter considering that you don't even know me.
quote:And I still consider most of those threads on AE to be total crap.
That depends. The threads that get alot racist trolls and nutcases tend to be but there is a lot of enlightening info there as well.
quote: Then why don't you vent your rage on African Americans as well?
Why should I? I've had no problems with African Americans. I have many African American friends as well as white friends, what's the problem?
quote:I think its a complete shame that young men nowdays worship the hottest craze "hip-hop" and then reinvent themselves, putting all forms of critical thought aside.
Like all music, that would depend on the particular artist and song. There used to be a lot more "intelligent" hip-hop back then but I agree that you don't see that much today. Besides, my main music is rock.
quote:I know young dudes (African Americans) who live in "hip-hop" 24/7 and these guys as much as they hate the racism they endure certainly have enough racism for "wet-backs" and "snake-eyes" and all that crap.
YOUR experience, THOSE particular African Americans. For you to judge all people of a certain group because of the actions of a few are well... racist.
quote:Then I know some other dudes (african Americans) who do rap and other forms, but understand racism and understand that while African Americans carried alot of pain and suffered tremendously, so did other non-whites.
I do too and of course blacks weren't the only ones who've experienced racism. Are you aware that even supposedly white Italians experienced prejudice when they first came to the US?
quote:Yes these Mexicans live across the border, but before the Spanish-American war 80% of the population to the north of Mexico City lived in the South West American proper. The Spanish-American war drove them to the south into Mexico. So most of the so-called immigrants who tranverse across that border are actually more American than you.
Yea, but most Mexicans didn't even want to live in the Southwest and it was only that Spain pushed forth the policy of sending people to settle that area. What about the Native Americans who lived in the area??
In fact, most Mexicans themselves are Native American and had their own native culture until the Spaniards came and destroyed it.
quote:This is a tidbit your leader "Ausar" chose to exclude to make his brainwashing complete.
In adition to the fact that many "Asians" found on ocean frieght ships until the late 1990s were given amnesty and were automatically stamped "refugees" according to an agreement between the USA and many SE Asian countries.
Thats millions of Asian like your mother who were given a much simplier immigration status than a "neighboring" population that belongs in the USA.
So while your mother had to go through heck with the INS, your fellow Asians got a stamp-marked enterance that only a Mexican who is a Native of the USA could only dream of.
Uhh.. well Ausar didn't really "exclude" anything since his expertise is on EGYPTIAN history not American history and Egyptian history is what he pretty much discusses.
And besides, are you aware that after slavery was officially abolished in the US as well as Europe it still continued under a deceptive cheap labor system and most victims of this newer slavery were from Asia?! These Asian migrant workers were called 'coolies' and many were even kidnapped from their homes to perform labor in the Americas. That's why 'Shanghai' is used as a synonym for kidnap because this city is where most kidnapped Chinese workers came from. The Chinese were mainly sent to the US and Canada while those from Southeast Asia mainly entered the Americas farther south. And yes, many of these forced laborers worked in, guess where? MEXICO!!
This is why you see peoples of Asian descent in South and Central America and even in the Carribean. The wages were low and there were loopholes in the contracts that put the workers into perpetual debt.
The same system was used in the Western US and many people don't realize that the railroad systems there were built by the blood and sweat of Chinese workers.
And yet these illegals don't seem to have it as bad.
quote:So go back to your ignorant "Nation of Ausar" bullsh*t and try not so hard to spew stupidity.
LOL
Sorry, but first of all, it is just a discussion board not a nation and Ausar is the administrator not the dictator. You are free to visit any time and come speak your mind, but just be prepared to back up anything you claim as 'facts'.
Second, I'm not "spewing" anything stupid let alone trying to, but I see that you have much success at this without even trying
quote:I understand immigration pretty darn well for a white chick, and something you can't learn from hip-hop.
Apparently not. And neither do you understand any history, so instead of worrying about what kind of music African Americans listen to I suggest you start to educate yourself on these matters before you begin your ranting. Posts: 26307 | From: Atlanta, Georgia, USA | Registered: Feb 2005
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quote:Originally posted by Organized Crime: I know your background.
I doubt that.
quote:I still think you are a fruit.
Think what you may, since your opinions about me don't even matter considering that you don't even know me.
quote:And I still consider most of those threads on AE to be total crap.
That depends. The threads that get alot racist trolls and nutcases tend to be but there is a lot of enlightening info there as well.
quote: Then why don't you vent your rage on African Americans as well?
Why should I? I've had no problems with African Americans. I have many African American friends as well as white friends, what's the problem?
quote:I think its a complete shame that young men nowdays worship the hottest craze "hip-hop" and then reinvent themselves, putting all forms of critical thought aside.
Like all music, that would depend on the particular artist and song. There used to be a lot more "intelligent" hip-hop back then but I agree that you don't see that much today. Besides, my main music is rock.
quote:I know young dudes (African Americans) who live in "hip-hop" 24/7 and these guys as much as they hate the racism they endure certainly have enough racism for "wet-backs" and "snake-eyes" and all that crap.
YOUR experience, THOSE particular African Americans. For you to judge all people of a certain group because of the actions of a few are well... racist.
quote:Then I know some other dudes (african Americans) who do rap and other forms, but understand racism and understand that while African Americans carried alot of pain and suffered tremendously, so did other non-whites.
I do too and of course blacks weren't the only ones who've experienced racism. Are you aware that even supposedly white Italians experienced prejudice when they first came to the US?
quote:Yes these Mexicans live across the border, but before the Spanish-American war 80% of the population to the north of Mexico City lived in the South West American proper. The Spanish-American war drove them to the south into Mexico. So most of the so-called immigrants who tranverse across that border are actually more American than you.
Yea, but most Mexicans didn't even want to live in the Southwest and it was only that Spain pushed forth the policy of sending people to settle that area. What about the Native Americans who lived in the area??
In fact, most Mexicans themselves are Native American and had their own native culture until the Spaniards came and destroyed it.
quote:This is a tidbit your leader "Ausar" chose to exclude to make his brainwashing complete.
In adition to the fact that many "Asians" found on ocean frieght ships until the late 1990s were given amnesty and were automatically stamped "refugees" according to an agreement between the USA and many SE Asian countries.
Thats millions of Asian like your mother who were given a much simplier immigration status than a "neighboring" population that belongs in the USA.
So while your mother had to go through heck with the INS, your fellow Asians got a stamp-marked enterance that only a Mexican who is a Native of the USA could only dream of.
Uhh.. well Ausar didn't really "exclude" anything since his expertise is on EGYPTIAN history not American history and Egyptian history is what he pretty much discusses.
And besides, are you aware that after slavery was officially abolished in the US as well as Europe it still continued under a deceptive cheap labor system and most victims of this newer slaver were from Asia?! These Asian migrant workers were called 'coolies' and many were even kidnapped from their homes to perform labor in the Americas. That's why 'Shanghai' is used as a synonym for kidnap because this city is where most kidnapped Chinese workers came from. The Chinese were mainly sent to the US and Canada while those from Southeast Asia mainly entered the Americas farther south. And yes, many of these forced laborers worked in, guess where? MEXICO!!
This is why you see peoples of Asian descent in South and Central America and even in the Carribean. The wages were low and there were loopholes in the contracts that put the workers into perpetual debt.
The same system was used in the Western US and many people don't realize that the railroad systems there were by the blood and sweat of Chinese workers.
And yet these illegals don't seem to have it as bad.
quote:So go back to your ignorant "Nation of Ausar" bullsh*t and try not so hard to spew stupidity.
LOL
Sorry, but first of all, it is just a discussion board not a nation and Ausar is the administrator not the dictator. You are free to visit any time and come speak your mind, but just be prepared to back up anything you claim as 'facts'.
Second, I'm not "spewing" anything stupid let alone trying to, but I see that you have much success at this without even trying
quote:I understand immigration pretty darn well for a white chick, and something you can't learn from hip-hop.
Apparently not. And neither do you understand any history, so instead of worrying about what kind of music African Americans listen to I suggest you start to educate yourself on these matters before you begin your ranting.
Whatever, you are still a little weirdo and belong on that race obsessed weridovile AE forum.
Having a serious discussion with anyone from that section is useless.
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quote:Originally posted by yazid904: Vote Vicente Fox (Zorro) pa'l presidente de USA (Estados Unidos).
He has done more for illegals than even Bush. jajajeje
Yeah, illegals who are MEXICAN!!
And why shouldn't he?! After all, it is illegal Mexican workers who send US dollars back to Mexico which Vicente Fox and the other corrupt politicians would put in their pockets!!
In the last several years almost a billion dollars of US money was sent to Mexico! It has gotten to a point to where Mexico's second gross national product is money sent in by illegals in the US and is 2nd only to Mexico's tourism!
On the other hand, if you ask what Fox has done for illegals in HIS country, then not much except send them all to jail.
And yet again, the illegals here in the US can protest in their own language and wave Mexican flags! *sigh* Posts: 26307 | From: Atlanta, Georgia, USA | Registered: Feb 2005
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quote:Originally posted by Organized Crime: Whatever,...
Why am I not surprised by this response from a 'white chick' who does not have a clue.
quote:you are still a little weirdo and belong on that race obsessed weridovile AE forum.
I'm not really obsessed with race, although some on that section probably are. Just because I acknowledge the simple fact that indigenous (ancient) Egyptians are black doesn't make me "obsessed with race".
quote:Having a serious discussion with anyone from that section is useless.
Really? Have you even tried having a discussion there? As I said, there are plenty of enlightening topics in that section.
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quote:Originally posted by Organized Crime: I don't think Bush has done anything but harm for illegals.
Are you kidding me? The guy supports a worker's amnesty to people who are here illegally.
quote:Seriously its like Bush wants to see 90% of small to mid-sized business in states that border Mexico to totally bite the dust.
So I take it you are another one who falsely believes Mexicans take jobs "US citizens don't want".
Newsflash: There are plenty of legal US citizens who are able and willing to work the same low-wage manual labor jobs that Mexicans work. The only problem is that as legal citizens they have certain factors that affect their income, like taxes and so can't afford the cheap prices that the illegals get. Many people and especially businesses welcome the cheap labor while not considering the legal US citizens who need the same jobs.
Most small businesses are losing work and going bankrupt because their services are ill-favored over those of illegal immigrants whose services are cheap.
There is a small lawn and grass company in the state where I live. They started out by going door to door until they managed to prosper, but in the past several years because of illegals they are losing clients who prefer cheaper services rendered by illegals. The owner has lost so much money that now he has to go on foodstamps for his wife and children and must work an odd number of jobs to support his family!
He is just one of many small businesses that are losing out to illegals. I know many construction workers and carpenters who are also losing services to illegals!
Why should legal US citizens have to suffer to support people who are here illegally?!
quote:I am sorry we need illegal aliens here because its so difficult for Mexicans to be granted legal status.
Give me a break.
quote:I do think Pres. Fox has brought down the federalee abuses to an all time low.
He shuffled the federalee bureaucracy a great deal so abuses and deaths are so easily hide from top levels of the government.
Surprising to me that Human Rights groups turn the other cheek so often when it comes to North Mexico.
It's because of Vicente Fox and other politicians in Mexico that the people are poor and are crossing the border in the first place!!
Mexico is actually rich in resources and wealth, yet 90% of that wealth is owned by oonly 10% of the people!!
So begs the question, why can't these illegal fools protest in Spanish and wave Mexican flags in their own country??
Because they have long given up on their country and know they can get away with it here!!
Violation of human rights, my *ss!
If illegals' human rights were being violated they wouldn't be recieving any healthcare! Which is another thing.
Over $3 billion of tax money towards healthcare was spent in the last couple of years to illegals because they had no health insurance!!
My mother is a nurse and she tells me all the time how she and other healthcare workers have to go through long process of trying to communicate with illegals who don't even know english, speaking broken spanish so they help them! It's because of this drain in healthcare that medical expenses have increased and now legal US citizens have to worry about the high cost of healthcare for themselves!!
Think about all of this...
Do you really think Fox or any of the corrupt fools in Mexico would offer this kind of treatment to those who enter their country illegally??
HELL NO! So why should we support his citizens who are draining our money and putting it his pockets!
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Well I am so happy and proud to have begun such a lovely post. Charm! How the heck are you my British Sister!? Don't hold back, tell me the truth, you know I have no shame! Posts: 13440 | Registered: Feb 2006
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quote:Originally posted by Organized Crime: I don't think Bush has done anything but harm for illegals.
Are you kidding me? The guy supports a worker's amnesty to people who are illegal.
quote:Seriously its like Bush wants to see 90% of small to mid-sized business in states that border Mexico to totally bite the dust.
So I take it you are another one who falsely believes Mexicans take jobs "US citizens don't want".
Newsflash: There are plenty of able and willing to work the same low-wage manual labor jobs that Mexicans work. The only problem is that as legal citizens they have certain factor that affect their income, like taxes and so can't afford the cheap prices that the illegals get. Many people and especially businesses welcome the cheap labor while not considering the legal US citizens who need the same jobs.
Most small businesses are losing work and going bankrupt because their services are ill-favored over those of illegal immigrants whose services are cheap.
There is a small lawn and grass company in the state where I live. They started out by going door to door until they managed to prosper, but in the past several years because of illegals they are losing clients who prefer cheaper services rendered by illegals. The owner has lost so much money that now he has to go on foodstamps for his wife and children and must work an odd number of jobs to support his family!
He is just one of many small businesses that are losing out to illegals. I know many construction workers and carpenters who are also losing services to illegals!
Why should legal US citizens have to suffer to support people who are here illegally?!
quote:I am sorry we need illegal aliens here because its so difficult for Mexicans to be granted legal status.
Give me a break.
quote:I do think Pres. Fox has brought down the federalee abuses to an all time low.
He shuffled the federalee bureaucracy a great deal so abuses and deaths are so easily hide from top levels of the government.
Surprising to me that Human Rights groups turn the other cheek so often when it comes to North Mexico.
It's because of Vicente Fox and other politicians in Mexico that the people are poor and are crossing the border in the first place!!
Mexico is actually rich in resources and wealth, yet 90% of that wealth is owned by oonly 10% of the people!!
So begs the question, why can't these illegal fools protest in Spanish and wave Mexican flags in their own country??
Because they have long given up on their country and know they can get away with it here!!
Violation of human rights, my *ss!
If illegals' human rights were being violated they wouldn't be recieving any healthcare! Which is another thing.
Over $3 billion of tax money towards healthcare was spent in the last couple of years to illegals because they had no health insurance!!
My mother is a nurse and she tells me all the time how she and other healthcare workers have to go through long process of trying to communicate with illegals who don't even know english, speaking broken spanish so they help them! It's because of this drain in healthcare that medical expenses have increased and now legal US citizens have to worry about the high cost of healthcare for themselves!!
Think about all of this...
Do you really think Fox or any of the corrupt fools in Mexico would offer this kind of treatment to those who enter their country illegally??
HELL NO! So why should we support his citizens who are draining our money and putting it his pockets!
Again another race weirdo set loose from the AE section of the forum.
You know the Golden Rule?, how about the Silver Rule?, your version of the Rule is more of the peuce variation.
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quote:Originally posted by Organized Crime: Again another race weirdo set loose from the AE section of the forum.
And exactly where have I mentioned race?!
In fact, it is YOU who would keep bringing up issues of race whenever you would talk about your "experiences" with African Americans and their music.
Do not project your own socio-psychological issues on to me.
And how predictable that despite everything relevant I just said on the topic of this thread, you did not reply to any of it but only continue your complaints about me being a "race obssessed" person.
quote:You know the Golden Rule?, how about the Silver Rule?, your version of the Rule is more of the peuce variation.
Well apparently the Mexican goverment follows the golden rule very well-- Whoever has the gold makes the rules!
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quote:Originally posted by Organized Crime: I don't think Bush has done anything but harm for illegals.
Are you kidding me? The guy supports a worker's amnesty to people who are illegal.
quote:Seriously its like Bush wants to see 90% of small to mid-sized business in states that border Mexico to totally bite the dust.
So I take it you are another one who falsely believes Mexicans take jobs "US citizens don't want".
Newsflash: There are plenty of able and willing to work the same low-wage manual labor jobs that Mexicans work. The only problem is that as legal citizens they have certain factor that affect their income, like taxes and so can't afford the cheap prices that the illegals get. Many people and especially businesses welcome the cheap labor while not considering the legal US citizens who need the same jobs.
Most small businesses are losing work and going bankrupt because their services are ill-favored over those of illegal immigrants whose services are cheap.
There is a small lawn and grass company in the state where I live. They started out by going door to door until they managed to prosper, but in the past several years because of illegals they are losing clients who prefer cheaper services rendered by illegals. The owner has lost so much money that now he has to go on foodstamps for his wife and children and must work an odd number of jobs to support his family!
He is just one of many small businesses that are losing out to illegals. I know many construction workers and carpenters who are also losing services to illegals!
Why should legal US citizens have to suffer to support people who are here illegally?!
quote:I am sorry we need illegal aliens here because its so difficult for Mexicans to be granted legal status.
Give me a break.
quote:I do think Pres. Fox has brought down the federalee abuses to an all time low.
He shuffled the federalee bureaucracy a great deal so abuses and deaths are so easily hide from top levels of the government.
Surprising to me that Human Rights groups turn the other cheek so often when it comes to North Mexico.
It's because of Vicente Fox and other politicians in Mexico that the people are poor and are crossing the border in the first place!!
Mexico is actually rich in resources and wealth, yet 90% of that wealth is owned by oonly 10% of the people!!
So begs the question, why can't these illegal fools protest in Spanish and wave Mexican flags in their own country??
Because they have long given up on their country and know they can get away with it here!!
Violation of human rights, my *ss!
If illegals' human rights were being violated they wouldn't be recieving any healthcare! Which is another thing.
Over $3 billion of tax money towards healthcare was spent in the last couple of years to illegals because they had no health insurance!!
My mother is a nurse and she tells me all the time how she and other healthcare workers have to go through long process of trying to communicate with illegals who don't even know english, speaking broken spanish so they help them! It's because of this drain in healthcare that medical expenses have increased and now legal US citizens have to worry about the high cost of healthcare for themselves!!
Think about all of this...
Do you really think Fox or any of the corrupt fools in Mexico would offer this kind of treatment to those who enter their country illegally??
HELL NO! So why should we support his citizens who are draining our money and putting it his pockets!
Again another race weirdo set loose from the AE section of the forum.
You know the Golden Rule?, how about the Silver Rule?, your version of the Rule is more of the peuce variation.
Where are your stupid friends now to see the filthy rabid dog that you are.
Years from now sonomod when you wonder how you life got so screwed up, remember me. I guarantee you with my life I will be the reason. Which reminds me, have you seen your profile on yahoo dating group yet...........it's a doozy. As it turns out there alot of Egyptian studs looking for dirt bags like you......
Posts: 637 | Registered: Apr 2005
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My point is, this thread is called "Do unto Mexicans as Mexico does unto us". If the US really did follow this policy, then there would be no way in hell all these illegals would be even able to get jobs and healthcare, let alone protest!!
And ALL of them would be prosecuted immediately and thrown in dingy prison cells only later to be deported...
But apparently the US is very merciful compared to the crooked government of Mexico. A little too merciful if you ask me! Posts: 26307 | From: Atlanta, Georgia, USA | Registered: Feb 2005
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quote:Originally posted by Automatic For The People:
quote:Originally posted by Organized Crime:
quote:Originally posted by Djehuti:
quote:Originally posted by Organized Crime: I don't think Bush has done anything but harm for illegals.
Are you kidding me? The guy supports a worker's amnesty to people who are illegal.
quote:Seriously its like Bush wants to see 90% of small to mid-sized business in states that border Mexico to totally bite the dust.
So I take it you are another one who falsely believes Mexicans take jobs "US citizens don't want".
Newsflash: There are plenty of able and willing to work the same low-wage manual labor jobs that Mexicans work. The only problem is that as legal citizens they have certain factor that affect their income, like taxes and so can't afford the cheap prices that the illegals get. Many people and especially businesses welcome the cheap labor while not considering the legal US citizens who need the same jobs.
Most small businesses are losing work and going bankrupt because their services are ill-favored over those of illegal immigrants whose services are cheap.
There is a small lawn and grass company in the state where I live. They started out by going door to door until they managed to prosper, but in the past several years because of illegals they are losing clients who prefer cheaper services rendered by illegals. The owner has lost so much money that now he has to go on foodstamps for his wife and children and must work an odd number of jobs to support his family!
He is just one of many small businesses that are losing out to illegals. I know many construction workers and carpenters who are also losing services to illegals!
Why should legal US citizens have to suffer to support people who are here illegally?!
quote:I am sorry we need illegal aliens here because its so difficult for Mexicans to be granted legal status.
Give me a break.
quote:I do think Pres. Fox has brought down the federalee abuses to an all time low.
He shuffled the federalee bureaucracy a great deal so abuses and deaths are so easily hide from top levels of the government.
Surprising to me that Human Rights groups turn the other cheek so often when it comes to North Mexico.
It's because of Vicente Fox and other politicians in Mexico that the people are poor and are crossing the border in the first place!!
Mexico is actually rich in resources and wealth, yet 90% of that wealth is owned by oonly 10% of the people!!
So begs the question, why can't these illegal fools protest in Spanish and wave Mexican flags in their own country??
Because they have long given up on their country and know they can get away with it here!!
Violation of human rights, my *ss!
If illegals' human rights were being violated they wouldn't be recieving any healthcare! Which is another thing.
Over $3 billion of tax money towards healthcare was spent in the last couple of years to illegals because they had no health insurance!!
My mother is a nurse and she tells me all the time how she and other healthcare workers have to go through long process of trying to communicate with illegals who don't even know english, speaking broken spanish so they help them! It's because of this drain in healthcare that medical expenses have increased and now legal US citizens have to worry about the high cost of healthcare for themselves!!
Think about all of this...
Do you really think Fox or any of the corrupt fools in Mexico would offer this kind of treatment to those who enter their country illegally??
HELL NO! So why should we support his citizens who are draining our money and putting it his pockets!
Again another race weirdo set loose from the AE section of the forum.
You know the Golden Rule?, how about the Silver Rule?, your version of the Rule is more of the peuce variation.
Where are your stupid friends now to see the filthy rabid dog that you are.
Years from now sonomod when you wonder how you life got so screwed up, remember me. I guarantee you with my life I will be the reason. Which reminds me, have you seen your profile on yahoo dating group yet...........it's a doozy. As it turns out there alot of Egyptian studs looking for dirt bags like you......
So now that you have hijacked my sonomod yahoo and gmail accounts. Both of which I can't get back into you'll do a "Ms. Sarjevo" and create that fat chick yahoo personal profile. Which Shumza promptly deleted these threads.
Now Khalid Hawe as a 41 year old man, still unmarried, no children, and a prolific child pornographer. You waste vast amounts of time hacking me out of my email accounts and chasing me around forums. Why do you need revenge? A simple forum spat and you need to show me just how disguisting you are. Why?
As I had said before, I'd rather walk the earth as a corpse than be tied to a scumbag such as the average loose, immoral, sell-out Egyptian scum that chases westerners.
Any Egyptian guy interested in bedding down or wedding down with a khawagaa is a bad dude.
WHich is a very small portion of the population. Again most Egyptian men are wise and moral enough to leave western women alone and stick to their own.
Anyone notice how Khalid has absolutely to qualm or arguement with the original bigoted tone of this thread?
As Saaed Eddin Ibrahim has said, "Its not what a person says to incriminate themselves, its what they don't say. Staying silent on a very critical issue shows contempt."
Backing up a bigot does a child pornographer no good.
Posts: 1765 | Registered: Mar 2006
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quote:Originally posted by Automatic For The People:
quote:Originally posted by Organized Crime:
quote:Originally posted by Djehuti:
quote:Originally posted by Organized Crime: I don't think Bush has done anything but harm for illegals.
Are you kidding me? The guy supports a worker's amnesty to people who are illegal.
quote:Seriously its like Bush wants to see 90% of small to mid-sized business in states that border Mexico to totally bite the dust.
So I take it you are another one who falsely believes Mexicans take jobs "US citizens don't want".
Newsflash: There are plenty of able and willing to work the same low-wage manual labor jobs that Mexicans work. The only problem is that as legal citizens they have certain factor that affect their income, like taxes and so can't afford the cheap prices that the illegals get. Many people and especially businesses welcome the cheap labor while not considering the legal US citizens who need the same jobs.
Most small businesses are losing work and going bankrupt because their services are ill-favored over those of illegal immigrants whose services are cheap.
There is a small lawn and grass company in the state where I live. They started out by going door to door until they managed to prosper, but in the past several years because of illegals they are losing clients who prefer cheaper services rendered by illegals. The owner has lost so much money that now he has to go on foodstamps for his wife and children and must work an odd number of jobs to support his family!
He is just one of many small businesses that are losing out to illegals. I know many construction workers and carpenters who are also losing services to illegals!
Why should legal US citizens have to suffer to support people who are here illegally?!
quote:I am sorry we need illegal aliens here because its so difficult for Mexicans to be granted legal status.
Give me a break.
quote:I do think Pres. Fox has brought down the federalee abuses to an all time low.
He shuffled the federalee bureaucracy a great deal so abuses and deaths are so easily hide from top levels of the government.
Surprising to me that Human Rights groups turn the other cheek so often when it comes to North Mexico.
It's because of Vicente Fox and other politicians in Mexico that the people are poor and are crossing the border in the first place!!
Mexico is actually rich in resources and wealth, yet 90% of that wealth is owned by oonly 10% of the people!!
So begs the question, why can't these illegal fools protest in Spanish and wave Mexican flags in their own country??
Because they have long given up on their country and know they can get away with it here!!
Violation of human rights, my *ss!
If illegals' human rights were being violated they wouldn't be recieving any healthcare! Which is another thing.
Over $3 billion of tax money towards healthcare was spent in the last couple of years to illegals because they had no health insurance!!
My mother is a nurse and she tells me all the time how she and other healthcare workers have to go through long process of trying to communicate with illegals who don't even know english, speaking broken spanish so they help them! It's because of this drain in healthcare that medical expenses have increased and now legal US citizens have to worry about the high cost of healthcare for themselves!!
Think about all of this...
Do you really think Fox or any of the corrupt fools in Mexico would offer this kind of treatment to those who enter their country illegally??
HELL NO! So why should we support his citizens who are draining our money and putting it his pockets!
Again another race weirdo set loose from the AE section of the forum.
You know the Golden Rule?, how about the Silver Rule?, your version of the Rule is more of the peuce variation.
Where are your stupid friends now to see the filthy rabid dog that you are.
Years from now sonomod when you wonder how you life got so screwed up, remember me. I guarantee you with my life I will be the reason. Which reminds me, have you seen your profile on yahoo dating group yet...........it's a doozy. As it turns out there alot of Egyptian studs looking for dirt bags like you......
So now that you have hijacked my sonomod yahoo and gmail accounts. Both of which I can't get back into you'll do a "Ms. Sarjevo" and create that fat chick yahoo personal profile. Which Shumza promptly deleted these threads.
Now Khalid Hawe as a 41 year old man, still unmarried, no children, and a prolific child pornographer. You waste vast amounts of time hacking me out of my email accounts and chasing me around forums. Why do you need revenge? A simple forum spat and you need to show me just how disguisting you are. Why?
As I had said before, I'd rather walk the earth as a corpse than be tied to a scumbag such as the average loose, immoral, sell-out Egyptian scum that chases westerners.
Any Egyptian guy interested in bedding down or wedding down with a khawagaa is a bad dude.
WHich is a very small portion of the population. Again most Egyptian men are wise and moral enough to leave western women alone and stick to their own.
Anyone notice how Khalid has absolutely to qualm or arguement with the original bigoted tone of this thread?
As Saaed Eddin Ibrahim has said, "Its not what a person says to incriminate themselves, its what they don't say. Staying silent on a very critical issue shows contempt."
Backing up a bigot does a child pornographer no good.
What gave you the impression I read the thread you ? I only read your posts..that's right, you're in my sights now.
Hey..I lost those nude photos you sent me while back. Your profile on yahoo would not be complete with those fantastic shots....can you email them to me again or even add them to your album on my forum....it's all good.
And into the abyss!
Posts: 637 | Registered: Apr 2005
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quote:Originally posted by Automatic For The People: What gave you the impression I read the thread you ? I only read your posts..that's right, you're in my sights now.
Hey..I lost those nude photos you sent me while back. Your profile on yahoo would not be complete with those fantastic shots....can you email them to me again or even add them to your album on my forum....it's all good.
And into the abyss!
Dude,
you are dreaming. You have never seen me nude, will never see me in person period!
God wouldn't even put us in the same side of Heaven,you being a child pornographer I am convinced you'll go to hell.
Repeat this to yourself Khalid Hawe:
I am in a fantasy world, I have never seen Sonomod in the flesh or any of her flesh, and never will.
Repeat that to yourself in the moring five times and five times before bed.
Then throw out all your child porn.
Don't skip any prayers either.
Posts: 1765 | Registered: Mar 2006
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My point is, this thread is called "Do unto Mexicans as Mexico does unto us". If the US really did follow this policy, then there would be no way in hell all these illegals would be even able to get jobs and healthcare, let alone protest!!
And ALL of them would be prosecuted immediately and thrown in dingy prison cells only later to be deported...
But apparently the US is very merciful compared to the crooked government of Mexico. A little too merciful if you ask me!
NOT ditto. the US depends on these people to keep things running smoothly. Sure the healthcare and medical issues are big, but they are for citizens too!! Nobody can really get affordable healthcare and too many people are having to get government assisted healthcare these days. I think the protests really were an eye opener to the numbers involved. I won't get specific, but I had family members in one of those protests and I am proud of it. My great grandmother came to this country 'illegally' although it wasn't really back then, and had a successful family, all of which her children were well educated, and their children too. Productive members of a soceity that you're speaking about. You're speaking about a soceity of people who came to this land and slaughtered and drove away the native people for gold and real estate (not to mention power and greed), and now, here we go again. Self righteous people who don't know history truly annoy me. Posts: 13440 | Registered: Feb 2006
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I really don't care if the mexicans come to this country illegally and don't get citizenship. It does not affect my life one way or another.
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america needs those mexiacan and other immigrant..
do you think those white american will join the army in a losing war - immigrant are their best chance
Posts: 2457 | From: U | Registered: Jun 2005
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Losing war, what a joke. We are killing your guys at the rate of 100-1 and they have been forced to go to suicide bombers, killing their own people because they can't get enough of our troops to make a dent. The war was over the day it started....and guess what western, we ain't leaving.
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Right goofey ...we have lost 2,300 in 3 years. If you want to see a loser Western go look in the mirror at your uneducated puss. By the way, why aren't you out there fighting? Its people like you who keep the middle east a sand flea infested poverty pit.
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quote:Originally posted by TheWesternDebt2Islaam: america needs those mexiacan and other immigrant..
do you think those white american will join the army in a losing war - immigrant are their best chance
i am lost for words... your ignorance has dumbfounded me, truly.
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it amazes me that you think that no training, ill armed, unprofessional, part time 'soldiers' can out wit, out class and defeat NATO forces.
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now i know that american forces are dumb ass, dangerous mother fuckers...
but you lot are a joke! half of your rabble either havnt got their second teeth through yet or theyve only got 3 left.
the word fitness doesnt aply to you in any way shape or form....
you think tactical is what swings below your dick,
and the same arabic word describes retreat, advance and sleep????!!!!!
Posts: 5642 | From: hellonearth.myfastforum.org Forum Index | Registered: Feb 2006
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quote:Originally posted by TheWesternDebt2Islaam: america needs those mexiacan and other immigrant..
do you think those white american will join the army in a losing war - immigrant are their best chance
i am lost for words... your ignorance has dumbfounded me, truly.
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According to the U.S. Department of Defense: More than 60,000 immigrants serve on active duty in the U.S. Armed Forces.
Immigrants make up nearly 5 percent of all enlisted personnel on active duty in the U.S. Armed Forces.
Nearly 7 percent of U.S. Navy enlisted personnel are immigrants.
On July 3, 2002, President Bush recognized the contributions of immigrants in the U.S. Armed Forces by signing an executive order that provided for “expedited naturalization” of non-citizen men and women serving
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Thats right bimbo, they are earning their citizenship. They are also brave soldiers unlike the cowards that fight for you. Muslim men have become a disgrace. They fight from worm holes and use sucide bombers to blow up their own people. They fly airplanes into buildings to kill secretaries and janitors. The blow up buses in the UK because they lack the guts to meet our armies head on. They can no longer even fight the jews without getting their tails kicked.
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