quote:Originally posted by BushFan: You are dreaming. The American way of life will not collapse. Western culture is spreading all over the globe. Last time I looked our armies were still in the middle east. Despite all the talk you will not see them leave in your lifetime.
It's not that the world wants the US to fade away. It's just they don't want US style democracy and the US has to respect that rather then try to force it down their throats and act like bullies like they've done in Cuba.
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well, just this month American and Canadian doctors wrote, in collaboration, this review of the heath care system in both countries. They looked at people with different diseases/health problems and how they were treated and the outcome of the treatment.
Results showed that Canadians received better treatment than Americans, or equivalent ones.
So dont try to pull this "best heath care system in the world" thing. It is surely as good as in other highly developped countries but it aint free so accessibility goes down the drain.
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nonsense annie, Canadians cross the border by the thousands to get health care. Socialized medicine, by its very definition , is a rationing system.
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quote:Originally posted by annie_81: well, just this month American and Canadian doctors wrote, in collaboration, this review of the heath care system in both countries. They looked at people with different diseases/health problems and how they were treated and the outcome of the treatment.
Results showed that Canadians received better treatment than Americans, or equivalent ones.
So dont try to pull this "best heath care system in the world" thing. It is surely as good as in other highly developped countries but it aint free so accessibility goes down the drain.
LOL, Canadians are some of the funniest people I meet...in a good way. When I'm there (Quebec, Montreal, Ottawa), they never want me to leave and try to talk me into moving there. I have to admit, there are a lot of things I like about Canada over the US. When I ask Canadians about their taxes, education, Health care, ect. they have all seemed very happy, or at least content with their arrangements. The exception is the Canadians I've spoken to who earn millions of dollars, and they expectately complain about their tax rate, but not the Health care.
L@U BushFan, once again you miss the target. The US has social systems in place today that mimic the Canadian system. It's called, military health care. Except for the republican private contractors, it's setup to be a socialist system. As we've just seen, you have to keep a close eye on Washington, but overall it works effectively well for the military, so in theory, it could be expanded and work just as well for the rest of the nation. Republicans don't like this idea because it would majorly disrupt the flow of $$$ into their numerous siphoning activities. However, what's generally bad for republicans, oddly turns out to be good for the nation.
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Eventhough Denmark is a great country in my opinion there is a lot of things I would change if I had the power to do so.
When people believe they live in the perfect country and that everybody else is living the wrong way, - thats when they become dangerous for the world and for their own country.
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quote:Originally posted by BushFan: nonsense annie, Canadians cross the border by the thousands to get health care. Socialized medicine, by its very definition , is a rationing system.
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quote:Originally posted by BushFan: nonsense Annie, Canadians cross the border by the thousands to get health care. Socialized medicine, by its very definition, is a rationing system.
Mm, in what world does that happen? in fact, Americans cross the border to Canada and Mexico by the 10s of thousands to get the medicine they need. And this BEST HEALTHCARE SYSTEM you are talking about is not true, You may have intended to say the best health care system MONEY CAN BUY, because this health care is only to those ho have, This BEST HEALTHCARE system you are talking about, would treat a man from a minor blood pressure problem, and couple days later will send him a HEART ATTACK by mail, in form of an INVOICE. This health care system you are talking about would refuse to give care to an elder if they don’t have insurance or they are not accompanied with someone who will pay. This BEST HEALT CARE SYSTEM, you are talking about is Just another business, and those patients are only GOOD PAYING CUSTOMERS Another fact, is the Iraqi healt5h care system was recognized all over the world for being one of the best health care system ever, Well … that’s before the “George Dumb Bush” sent the American army and thought we should apply our own health care system, kill everyone, and whoever remains alive will be treated only if he have money.
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America has not been a real Democracy for centuries. It is a Plutocracy. [look it up in the dictionary] 70% Americans want out of Iraq. Where is representation? USA has been effectively bankrupt since 1973. Mirrors and shadows, and a pretty poor record of freedom of the press.
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America was NEVER intended to be a real democracy as you say. We are a representative federal republic. We do not govern by opinion polls and American Your comment on out lack of freedom of the press is absurd. Some would argue, on both the extreme right and extreme left that we have too much press freedom. In any event, all points of view are heard here.
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quote:Originally posted by BushFan: America was NEVER intended to be a real democracy as you say. We are a representative federal republic. We do not govern by opinion polls and American Your comment on out lack of freedom of the press is absurd. Some would argue, on both the extreme right and extreme left that we have too much press freedom. In any event, all points of view are heard here.
LOL, we support freedom of speech so much it dictates that I can't wear a "I hate Bush" t-shirt on a plane without getting booted off. For the 1st time, journalist attended a press briefing cannot ask Bush a question unless it has been previously screened and approved. LOL
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If you wear a an "i hate Bush" button on a plane you should be thrown off, only after take off. There is such a thing as showing a little class.
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Now, you're advocating throwing someone off an airborne plane simply because their fashion sense does not align with yours. Is that what you call freedom? For you, as the thrower maybe, but what about the other guy? Perhaps he finds cowboy hats as offensive as you find his T-shirt. Should you be thrown off for putting your little head in a 10 gallon hat?
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well sweetie, I usually wear a ribbon in my hair but I get your point. A hat is not a classless insult. I do not go around wearing a stupid looking "I hate Nancy Polisi" shirt. People think you are a narrow minded extremist bafoon when you wear things like that.
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quote:Originally posted by BushFan: well sweetie, I usually wear a ribbon in my hair but I get your point. A hat is not a classless insult. I do not go around wearing a stupid looking "I hate Nancy Polisi" shirt. People think you are a narrow minded extremist bafoon when you wear things like that.
LOL, I'm your sweetie now? A minute ago I was a lilly livered liberal pinko. I still believe that you have a serious issue with seeing other peoples POV. YOU like cowboy boots, so you think that other people should also. It's not true. There are some people that find someone on a plane dressed in crap kicking ropers boots, a big silver Lone Star belt buckle and a big cowboy hat offensive. You may find it in good taste, but others may not share your tastes and think its tacky. Don't be surprised if you start seeing cowboys getting thrown off of planes soon. I don't know if you've ever riden a horse, but it's a poor substitute for an airplane.
Also, consider this. If everyone on the plane had ignored this guy's t-shirt. The plane would have landed, and everyone went on their way. Instead, someone reads the t-shirt, it becomes a blown up fiasco, it's on all the news and the guy gets million of dollars of great exposure with a $15 t-shirt that says, Bush is a Dummy. Who won in that exchange?
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Wear the shirt all you want but if someone whips your a$$ over it do not complain. By wearing the shirt you are trying to stick it in the ear of those who disagree with you....thats the point. The airlines people just think you are a nut when they see that.
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LOL, now you starting to get hostile. I guess if your husband decided one day to vote for the opposing party he may find themself waking up with a dagger thrust in his ear. LMAO.
Let's get one thing straight. I didn't wear any political t-shirt. I'm not into that. BUT, if I were on a plane and saw someone with a "I hate Bush" t-shirt, I would ignore it the same as I do when I see someone wearing a Metallica, Elvis, or Gas, Grass, or Ass t-shirt. Why should I care what they choose to wear, that's their choice and I could really care less.
So what am I, a pinko communist, or your sweetie?
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i'm not hostile at all but some people are. The whole thing is respect. In our kind of political system we should respect our opponets. 51% of the American voters voted for geoge bush in 2004. You should respect their choice and move on.
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I have moved on, well before Bush's little boy got stuffed into office. What's Bush's approval rating today is the question.
You say you're not hostile, but in thes few threads alone you've; 1) Advocated thowing people out of moving planes 2) Advocated shooting people 3) Wished for those who opposed your views to get their a*ses whopped. 4) Advocated nuking nations unaligned with US 5) Labeled those who would demonstrate freedon of speech as (1)classless, (2) Bums, (3) pinko commies. I think if we were at arms length you would have tryed to strangle or hit me in the head with your little 25 auto by now.
I do enjoy speaking with you, but I swear, speaking with you is like speaking with a 1950s white dixiecrat. Were you by chance raised by your white grandparents?
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New Haven, Connecticut (April 16, 2007) From Combined News Services and Evolution Solutions Newsroom -- A 2004 analysis of data by the US Census reports that 60 million Americans now live on less than $7 per day. That's one in five in the U.S. living on less than $2,555 per year. At the same time, the richest 1 per cent now garners about 16 per cent of national income, double what they earned in the 1960s........ There has been no increase in non-supervisory wages since 1972. Twenty-five million Americans now depend on emergency food aid.
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America is a great country , i love America and i love American people , and i think what makes America #1 , is the American people themselves and how friendly and open minded they are.
I have been to New-york , California and Nevada ,So far at the trips i have been , i have had a nice time. I miss America so much ; American People are really nice and fun to be with.
I wish this could be read by every citizen of the world!
Written by an Australian Dentist....
You probably missed this in the rush of news, but there was actually a report that someone in Pakistan had published in a newspaper, an offer of a reward to anyone who killed an American, any American.
So an Australian dentist wrote an editorial the following day to let everyone know what an American is . So they would know when they found one. (Good one, mate!!!!)
"An American is English, or French, or Italian, Irish, German, Spanish, Polish, Russian or Greek. An American may also be Canadian, Mexican, African, Indian, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Australian, Iranian, Asian, or Arab, or Pakistani or Afghan.
An American may also be a Comanche, Cherokee, Osage, Blackfoot, Navaho, Apache, Seminole or one of the many other tribes known as native Americans.
An American is Christian, or he could be Jewish, or Buddhist, or Muslim. In fact, there are more Muslims in America than in Afghanistan . The only difference is that in America they are free to worship as each of them chooses.
An American is also free to believe in no religion. For that he will answer only to God, not to the government, or to armed thugs claiming to speak for the government and for God. An American lives in the most prosperous land in the history of the world.
The root of that prosperity can be found in the Declaration of Independence , which recognizes the God given right of each person to the pursuit of happiness.
An American is generous. Americans have helped out just about every other nation in the world in their time of need, never asking a thing in return.
When Afghanistan was over-run by the Soviet army 20 years ago, Americans came with arms and supplies to enable the people to win back their country!
As of the morning of September 11, Americans had given more than any other nation to the poor in Afghanistan . Americans welcome the best of everything..the best products, the best books, the best music, the best food, the best services. But they also welcome the least.
The national symbol of America , The Statue of Liberty, welcomes your tired and your poor, the wretched refuse of your teeming shores, the homeless, tempest tossed. These in fact are the people who built America .
Some of them were working in the Twin Towers the morning of September 11, 2001 earning a better life for their families. It's been told that the World Trade Center victims were from at least 30 different countries, cultures, and first languages, including those that aided and abetted the terrorists.
So you can try to kill an American if you must. Hitler did. So did General Tojo, and Stalin, and Mao Tse-Tung, and other blood-thirsty tyrants in the world. But, in doing so you would just be killing yourself . Because Americans are not a particular people from a particular place. They are the embodiment of the human spirit of freedom. Everyone who holds to that spirit, everywhere, is an American.
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I do not condone violence of any sort,but i am suprised that nincompoop Bush as not be assianated by now.
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the only nincompoop is you honeyboney. president bush was relected with 51% of the votes of the American people and carried 35 states out of 50. Just drift back into the coma you have been in.
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quote:Originally posted by honeybunny: I do not condone violence of any sort,but i am suprised that nincompoop Bush as not be assianated by now.
It's because the bad people are the ones who do assasinations. It's the Pro-gun people that like to do this shoot in the back stuff.
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meninarmer, that was really weak. " shoot in the back." What a stupid remark.
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You know what's crazy. That guy, Dr. Kavorkkan (sp?), the doctor that was assisting those terminally ill old people to kill themselves? The government locked him up for assisting 5-6 poeple. The crazy thing is gun manufacturers are doing the same thing. They providing people with the tools to commit suicide, the same as the Doctor, but on a much wider scale. Unlike the good imprisoned doctor, no gun manufacturers have been prosecuted, nor held accountable.
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meninarmer, so the gun makers are selling guns so people can commit suicide? What about the sleeping pill manufactures? shouldn't they be charged as well? If a guy commits suicide by jumping off a building we can charge the company who built the building?
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quote:Originally posted by BushFan: meninarmer, so the gun makers are selling guns so people can commit suicide? What about the sleeping pill manufactures? shouldn't they be charged as well? If a guy commits suicide by jumping off a building we can charge the company who built the building?
Gun manufacturers must be held accounable like explosive manufacturers are. How many suicides you hear about with the person using dynamite?
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we would have a revolution before we ever let people like you impose their Stalinst views on freedom loving people. Fact is, you do not have the support to change the constitution and thats the bottom line.
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quote:Originally posted by BushFan: we would have a revolution before we ever let people like you impose their Stalinst views on freedom loving people. Fact is, you do not have the support to change the constitution and thats the bottom line.
LOL, get it thru your hard, fat head, IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH CHANGING THE CONSITITION.
It has to do with getting sick people help, and saving the rest of us from "feeling" your illnesses. LOL, You act like you're afraid of a little psycho-probe.
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And how many people an hour are shot down in your freedom loving country Bushfan? Why does a large percentage of the Joe public in the states feel the need to own such a destructive weapon?
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for self protection honeybunny, its a constitutionally protected right here.
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So things are really that bad in the states that one needs to have a gun in the home as protection?-The whole concept doesn't seem to be working very well does it? No background checks.....one can just walk into wal-mart and buy a gun and bullets ....very worrying indeed,i'm sure you will agree Bushfan. What a mess!! I think the terrible events of last week prove that!!!!
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Those events prove nothing. If we would enforce the laws that are already on the books we would be much better off. Taking guns from law abiding citizens is not the answer.
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So you do not think it is abnormal to be able to just walk into your local supermarket and buy a gun. So if or when you have children you would be happy for them to own a firearm?
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Everyone's kids here own firearms. In most of America most homes have one or more guns inside...I sure do.
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I really can't understand it,why would one be happy with their children owning a gun. I haven't seen,touched or ever held a firearm,neither as any members of my family or friends.I see incidents involving guns from time to time on the news but i have yet to meet anyone yet who as suffered from a gun crime . And that's the problem...if anyone is allowed a gun then everyone will feel the need to have a gun. I am thankfull that i do not need to raise my child in a society with that mentality. I believe for many it is a power thing!!!!
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quote:Originally posted by honeybunny: I really can't understand it,why would one be happy with their children owning a gun. I haven't seen,touched or ever held a firearm,neither as any members of my family or friends.I see incidents involving guns from time to time on the news but i have yet to meet anyone yet who as suffered from a gun crime . And that's the problem...if anyone is allowed a gun then everyone will feel the need to have a gun. I am thankfull that i do not need to raise my child in a society with that mentality. I believe for many it is a power thing!!!!
Well Honeybun, it appears that you check out OK, for not arboring any psychological malfunction that drives you to sleeping with a gun to feel secure. Contrary to what Bushfan would have you believe, life in America is not as crime prone as that. In 16 years, my house has never been broken into, I have never been robbed, nor have my children or people around me experienced these things. I live in the heart of the city. The biggest fear in America right now is that some psycho whose understanding of the constitution runs parallel to Bushfan's, will flip out, pull out a gun and shoot everyone in sight.
Don't mind Bushfan. Crazy people's opinion's don't carry much weight.
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quote:Originally posted by BushFan: Everyone's kids here own firearms. In most of America most homes have one or more guns inside...I sure do.
Whaaaaaaaaaaaat? Kids own them too? So, instead of a rattle, they get a pistol to play with? Posts: 2953 | From: Slightly south of Azkaban. | Registered: Aug 2006
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quote:Originally posted by BushFan: Everyone's kids here own firearms. In most of America most homes have one or more guns inside...I sure do.
Whaaaaaaaaaaaat? Kids own them too? So, instead of a rattle, they get a pistol to play with?
exactly what I thought, but I dont even wanna comment on that. I really really really think its so scary, wrong and incrediable sick and twisted. Posts: 528 | From: Denmark | Registered: Dec 2006
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Don't be too hard on Bushfan. She does not speak from her own mind. Very likely she is the product of her father, an uncle, or some person who is in the militias, the klan, or the brotherhood. She is merely echoing their words and thoughts. You can see it's a compulsive reactive response with her/him. Even in the presence of irrefutable logic, her brain locks up and the same words tumble out. http://www.nra-kkk.org/girlspotlight.htmlPosts: 3595 | From: Moved To Mars. Waiting with shotgun | Registered: Dec 2006
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Really I keep reading Bushfan's arguments and what comes out loud and clear is how unsafe she/he feels in her own country. One really has to pity the American people that are feeling so unsafe in their own backyard. But I think that feeling is very true, American's are a target right now for alot of different interest groups and the funny thing is instead of of doing some self-reflection and evaluating what kind of a public face does the States put forward and how can we mend those fences, the US is the US and just ups the ante by giving more stupid people access to more dangerous weapons. When Charlton Heston came to Canada a year or so ago to talk about gun control in Canada, we kicked his ass back down South and he hasn't been seen since. You will never learn and Bushfan is just representative of the ignorance that is prevalent in that country and we are wasting our breath even try to point out another perspective, as I said before she/he is incapable of critical thought.
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Canadian cross the border by the thousands to get healthcare....rubbish, I have never gotten healthcare anywhere but in Canada. I don't wnat to mortgage my home to pay for my operation. Why pay when you can get the same treatment for free in Canada. Bushfan,have you ever even been out of the US. My guess is that you really haven't seen much of the world which is why you are so narrow minded...you should get out and travel more and base your ideas on reality.
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