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well, good point Tiger but it is hard to imagine how our relations can become FURTHER strained. Half of the American foreign policy establishment thinks we should have bombed them months ago.
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We are a group of human rights activists living in different parts of the world. Most of us have Iranian origin or live inside Iran.
The aim of this site is to put focus on the human rights situation in Iran and in this way, hopefully contribute ti its improvement.
We try to cover as many as possible human rights-related news, but we are aware of our limitations and believe that what we present here is just a portion of what is atually happening in Iran.
quote:Originally posted by TheAmericanPatriot: well, good point Tiger but it is hard to imagine how our relations can become FURTHER strained. Half of the American foreign policy establishment thinks we should have bombed them months ago.
The US can't afford another war right now... perhaps at a later point although I really don't wish so. Obama wants to bring a new, a better image of the USA to the Middle East. This would be definitely the wrong step.
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quote:Originally posted by Tigerlily: Iranian people have to fight this one out with their own government. The Americans should not stick their noses into this issue cause any involvement will only backfire and strain the relations between both countries even further.
I agree Lily and that is what they are doing. No way would I advocate that America go in militarily. It would serve no good purpose imo. I just think that they should know that we care and are watching and listening to them.
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quote:Originally posted by of_gold: In my post above is a link to Amnesty International so you can read about human rights issues in Iran which is what I was suggesting to you.
Lady learn to read. I asked you for evidence that your "Neda" video is "real". There is nothing in AI report that speaks to this.
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You need to learn to read. I never said that I can prove that video is real. The video is what it is. Posted from an Iranian in Iran. What kind of documentation do you need?
I said that you need to educate yourself about human rights issues in Iran.
I thought you had no time for this?
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quote:Originally posted by of_gold: You need to learn to read. I never said that I can prove that video is real. The video is what it is.
You need to stop lying. You said "It is obvious that she has been shot. The video is real." Obvious how? You provide no proof save an AI report to divert from your inability to back up your propaganda.
quote:What kind of documentation do you need?
You don't require proof of claims from CNN but do for the Iranian government. And you are not a propagandist? LOL
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Tiger, Obama squat. He has no idea what he is doing. He went to europe and groveled and slobered all over the germans and got nothing for his efforts....zippo. The only new image he is giving us is one of weakness.
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You Americans are truly evil. You egged on the Shiites to raise up against Saddam only to turn your backs on them. You egged on the Chinese students in Tiananmen square, only to trade with Chinese government after they killed the students. Talk about insult to injury. Now you wish to use the poor people of Iran as fodder. If they really cared about Iranian people they would not encourage them to their deaths for a lie. Moussavi lost, get over it. And it not like it's about human rights anyway, he is just as hard line and has blood on his hands too.
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well, In his Cairo speech Obama said you were uneducated Akoben and he was talking right to you, he said, "those that do not believe in the holocaust are niave and uneducated." So you see the Magic Negro, Obama, thinks you are stupid.
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quote:Originally posted by akoben: You Americans are truly evil. You egged on the Shiites to raise up against Saddam only to turn your backs on them. You egged on the Chinese students in Tiananmen square, only to trade with Chinese government after they killed the students. Talk about insult to injury. Now you wish to use the poor people of Iran as fodder. If they really cared about Iranian people they would not encourage them to their deaths for a lie. Moussavi lost, get over it. And it not like it's about human rights anyway, he is just as hard line and has blood on his hands too.
For the faction controlling the Pentagon, the military industry, and the oil industry, the Cold War never ended. They engineered an incredible plan to grab total control of the planet, of land, sea, air, space, outer space and cyberspace.
Continuing "below the radar", they created a global network of military bases and conflicts to advance the long-term goal of Full Spectrum Dominance. Methods include control of propaganda, use of NGOs for regime change, Color Revolutions to advance NATO eastwards, and a vast array of psychological and economic warfare techniques.
They even used "save the gorilla" organizations in Africa to secretly run arms in to create wars for raw materials. It was all part of a Revolution in Military Affairs, as they termed it. September 11, 2001 has allowed the Americans to declare a worldwide "War on Terrorism", on an enemy who was everywhere, and nowhere. 9/11 justified the Patriot Act, the very act that destroyed Americans' Constitutional freedoms in the name of security.
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quote:Originally posted by TheAmericanPatriot: God Bless Dick Cheney, a true American
"A true American" would adhere to the greatest Constitution ever assembled- the U.S. Constitution, rather than contravene it through the pretext of fighting "Wars" predicated on lies.
The U.S. Constitution as well as its Republican values [ as opposed to the mire of "democracy" ] should be emulated world wide, the U.S. is NO longer the country created by James Madison's exquisite Constitution.
"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch."
-Benjamin Franklin-
"If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy."
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sudaniya, We do not base our foreign policy on your anti american views. America does not fight wars based on lies, we fight wars based on out national interest.
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5:03 AM ET -- Khamenei to deliver another address on Friday. That news comes via a very reliable Iranian on Twitter, who cites Iran's state television. The same Twitter user also wrote earlier today about apparent plans for a broad strike being organized by reformists:
Soon Mousavi will announce full national strikes, probably starting with Petrochemical - prepare for this... Expect food shortage - transport stoppage - money shortage in bank... Gov will respond with electric power cuts - prepare and have gas cylinders at home or gasoline for light/cooking... People of Iran - THIS IS THE DAWN - This is the new begining - have hope and prepare.
4:43 AM ET -- Report: 40 senior clerics want election results annulled. The intense infighting among Iran's clerical establishment appeared to play out in new dramatic fashion on Monday. Via reader Art, the news site Peiknet reported that Ayatollah Rafsanjani has a letter signed by 40 members of the powerful 86-member Assembly of Experts calling for the annulment of the recent presidential election results.
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11:18 AM ET -- Nokia/Siemens responds to report it provided Iran with censoring technology. Via reader Paul, the statement is here. Any thoughts from experts on this issue?
11:16 AM ET -- Italy willing to open embassy to protesters. Reuters writes up the news we noted yesterday: "Italy is willing to open its embassy in Tehran to wounded protesters in coordination with other European nations, the Italian Foreign Ministry said in a statement on Monday. The move follows a Swedish initiative to look into whether European Union nations can put together a plan to take in and provide aid to demonstrators at their embassies in Iran, the ministry said."
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A woman who lives in Tehran and says she witnessed Saturday's protests has described seeing "savage police" who "behaved with brutality".
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Shocking what is going on, I am following all stories through Sky Cnn bbc and aljazzera but even more frightening is the threat from taliban in afganistan saying they will use nuclear weapons on US if they can get there hands on them from Pakistan. I posted thread aljazzera interviews 3rd in command to bin laden
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Our Magic Negro in the white house campaigned on ending the war in Iraq and he knew at the time he was lying through his teeth. Now they are saying maybe 10 more years, go figure. This guy makes Geoge Bush look like Thomas Jefferson.
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A woman looks up at the camera as she lies dying on the streets of Tehran after Saturday's democracy protests. She was named today as 27-year-old Neda Agha Soltani and had been shot through the heart. The harrowing video has spread round the world via the internet and has helped give a human face to the Iranian protest movement. ...read web pagePosts: 3773 | From: unfinished thought | Registered: Nov 2008
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It has just been release that the ambassador from the Iranien ambassy in Denmark is threatining Denmark because our minister of foreign affairs has condemmed the Iranien acting towards the peacefull activist in Teheran and because they have shut down the news papers in Iran these days. However our minister told him he ddnt care. Freedom of speach is a basic human right everyone should be born with he replied. So the ambassador walked out of the meeting angry is now public threatining Denmark - nothing specific - just that this "is looked on very seriously and will have consequences".
It could scare me a but because the lunatics maybe has nuclear bombs. They are crazy in the head and that will probaly never change because the next one will most likely be just as crazy.
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Wow, Tibe, That is wonderful of your MOF. What is his name? Kudos to him.
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ditto. Denmark has done a great job of standing up to these crazy Muslims. Hell, I might have to vacation there next year. Is the food good?
If the army stays with the reime the revolution will fail. In all revolutions those who wish to topple the government need defections from the army. That happened in France in 1789, Russia in 1917 and in England in 1642, others as well.
In any event this regime has lost international standing and it will be difficult for them going forward .
By the way, seems that France is banning Berkas. That will be a major step forward.
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quote:Originally posted by TheAmericanPatriot: Denmark has done a great job of standing up to these crazy Muslims. Hell, I might have to vacation there next year. Is the food good?
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Jesus Crist Gold, someone is in bad shape when they are reduced to envy the goofey Iranians.
Looks like this revolution may have fizzeled out unless the stike works. For any revolution to work at least some of the military has to defect. It appears that has not happened and that is not a good sign. The danger now is that when things settle down they will move in and kill all of the leaders. I hope that this shows we cannot trust these maniacs with nuclear weapons and that we'll have the guts to do something about it.
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Hammer, They will most likely kill the protesters too. Its not like here where we have the freedom to protest our government. These people are very brave and had to really want change to protest like they have. Thats why I support them. Posts: 3891 | From: No good deed goes unpunished. | Registered: May 2007
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omg They are still protesting. They are really so brave.
I second this post from Anonymous in Italy.
"I'd like to know what we European citizens can do for you struggling Iranian partisans for freedom. How can we help you ? May God ( whoever he/she is ) bless you and your righteous battle. We are with you, dear boys and girls of Iran.(Italy)"
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quote:Originally posted by of_gold: Wow, Tibe, That is wonderful of your MOF. What is his name? Kudos to him.
His Name is Per Stig Møller.
Wondering what he ment wit consequences for Denmark. I think they have problems enough to solve in their own country..... Posts: 1325 | From: For tooti http://www.csa.gov.uk/ | Registered: May 2009
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quote:Originally posted by TheAmericanPatriot: ditto. Denmark has done a great job of standing up to these crazy Muslims. Hell, I might have to vacation there next year. Is the food good?
I think so too but the attitude and tone in danish politic can sometimes be a bit to harsh. It also effect all the good muslims we have living in Denmar.
Denmark have many fun things and beautifull areas. Do y have kids??? Legoland in Billund or Tivoli i Copenhagen is always a big hit. Posts: 1325 | From: For tooti http://www.csa.gov.uk/ | Registered: May 2009
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All the countries in the world should expel iranian diplomats to sent a message to the president of Iran.
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quote:Originally posted by Tibe still working: All the countries in the world should expel iranian diplomats to sent a message to the president of Iran.
What course of action did you recommend that Nation-States around the world pursue when the United States illegally invaded and occupied Iraq as well as Afghanistan?
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quote:Originally posted by Tibe still working: All the countries in the world should expel iranian diplomats to sent a message to the president of Iran.
What course of action did you recommend that Nation-States around the world pursue when the United States illegally invaded and occupied Iraq as well as Afghanistan?
YOU support the regime in Iran and their actions towards its own people?????
The war in Afghanistan was/is neccesary. It was a terrorist nest and a threat to the free world.
I believe that US went in Iraq with the best intensions but the outcome still havent been a succes and mostly to blame for the lack of succes is the radical muslim groups.
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quote:Originally posted by Tibe still working: All the countries in the world should expel iranian diplomats to sent a message to the president of Iran.
What course of action did you recommend that Nation-States around the world pursue when the United States illegally invaded and occupied Iraq as well as Afghanistan?
YOU support the regime in Iran and their actions towards its own people?????
The war in Afghanistan was/is neccesary. It was a terrorist nest and a threat to the free world.
I believe that US went in Iraq with the best intensions but the outcome still havent been a succes and mostly to blame for the lack of succes is the radical muslim groups.
Pray tell, where have I stated that I support the Iranian government-a government bought to power by "western" geopolitical interests in 1979.
Its laughable that you would credulously characterise the entire "war on terrorism" entreprise as one with a "humanitarian" mandate.
The "war" againts "terrorist" has enshrouded and obtusficated the real economic and geo-strategic objectives behind it.
Afghanistan is, in many regards, strategic.It not only borders the “Silk Road Corridor” linking the Caucasus to China’s Western border, it is also at the hub of five nuclear powers: China, Russia, India, Pakistan and Kazakhstan.
Afghanistan is at the strategic crossroads of the Eurasian oil pipeline and transport routes. It also constitutes a potential land-bridge for the southbound oil pipeline from the former Soviet republic of Turkmenistan to the Arabian Sea across Pakistan, which had initially been negotiated by Unocal with the Taliban government.
Consequently, we now have the militarization of the Eurasian corridor as a means to securing control over extensive oil and gas reserves, as well as “protecting” the pipeline routes on behalf of the Anglo-American oil companies.
Whoever has control over certain kinds of pipelines and certain kinds of investments in the region does have a certain amount of geopolitical clout. Such clout is something of a commodity itself, even if the physical control of the oil is not.
The planning for the war in Afghanistan was in the “pipeline” for at least three years prior to the tragic events of September 11.
There is ample evidence, (including mountains of official documents) which confirm that successive U.S. Administrations have supported, abetted and harbored international terrorism.
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lots of allegations and speculations but no facts........ Posts: 1325 | From: For tooti http://www.csa.gov.uk/ | Registered: May 2009
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Oh well Obama brought this one on himself; sometimes it's just better not to say anything. A critical statement from Obama is the last thing Ahmadinejad wanted to hear. Well well so much about improving relations with Iran.
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Sudaniya does not like American policy because we do not do what "she" wants us to do. She needs to understand that we do what is in "our" best interest, not "her" best interest.
Well Tiger, Bush and Obama may have the same mideast policy but Obama's lack of competence is the major difference between the two.
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It is their evolutionary process at work and at stake, not ours, says Phil Giraldi.
Change by evolution is better than by revolution. Both metamorphoses are underway in Iran: one is immediate and reactionary and, perhaps necessarily, more graphic and even grim. The other suggests the possibility that long-lasting change might happen in Tehran – if outside influences do not upset the sensitive process of transformation.
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