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Afrosaxon wrote:
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your absolutely right, but we associate a mongol look with asians moreso today than africans.I don't believe the west africans are semi-mongol at all,I know the look derives from africans.I just mean in a modern context.
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No, not "we" but "you". Your dumb ass is the one that associates looks based on the race mythology that white boy roy has sodomized your mind with.

Time to grow up boy and learn to think/research/examine for yourself.

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[A Cuban of African/Asian origin]


I remember flying to Abu Simbel, a while ago, and my surprise at the looks of the Nubian-Egyptian guide, looking like a Black Korean or something, with ‘Chine-sy’ eyes. Assuring me he is all Egyptian.

Another surprise was recently in Nador, North Morocco where I stumbled on a Vietnamese Restaurant, where the friendly owner is half- Moroccan-Black and Vietnamese, and being served by his quarteroon son, who has an, obviously, very dark mother as well.

The food was great, spicy with fresh ginger. Moroccan food is usually, wonderfully subtle, and I feared he adapted his recipe. But he didn’t.

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Human features are a function of the environment. Eye shape, nose shape and lip shape as well as head shape are all related to the environment. Africans as some of the oldest and most diverse populations on the planet, have all of these features as completely local indigenous adaptation to the various environments of Africa and random traits of biology. And the first Asians were all black and the development of Asian features was an adaptation of the early black populations of Asia to the local environment, which included light skin.
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^ Correct.

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gaygoyle9<-------- wrote:

No, not "we" but "you". Your dumb ass is the one that associates looks based on the race mythology that white boy roy has sodomized your mind with.

^ This coming from the white boy roy who sodomizes himself. [Roll Eyes]

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Time to grow up boy and learn to think/research/examine for yourself.
How about YOU grow up and let a shrink examine YOU.
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T. Rex Master wrote:
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just because a statue has "fine" features does not make it one of a Eurasian or non-black
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Fine features, still Africans
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What are these "fine" features you keep harping about? What is "fine".

Folks, here's another liberal exposing his hidden racism.


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No forgery required
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Obviously for your brain, intelligence isn't required either.

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Has anyone ever heard of this ridiculous book called Phantom Voyagers? I've never read it, but anyway what it's about is how the culture of Nigerians and other Africans was given to them by Indonesians such as art, food, musical instruments, the game mencala, Ifa divination, and a bunch of other stuff. All this was supposedly originated in Southeast Asia and was spread into Africa through Indonesians because they are so similar.
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who knows it could be true those south asians are a clever bunch,everybody influenced everybody else,the celts would still be living in grass huts if it were not for all those religious crazies,romans and whatnot getting there.

I don't think there is any culture is the world that isn't influenced by another.

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remember mankind that you are dust and to dust you shall return.

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^ I agree with the last setence, but come on! We are talking about West Africans and Indonesians from the other side of the globe! It would be one thing to speak of Indonesian influence in say southeastern Africa as there is in the form of Malagasy culture of Madagascar, but West Africa?!

Seems like everybody these days are trying to claim African culture. First Egypt, then 'Nubia', now West Africa. I've heard someone mention about Chinese influence on Zulus! What next? Himalayan influence on the Himba?! LOL

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Djehuti wrote:

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Well you're on record saying that Africans are "dark" and any Africans who are "lighter" are the result of admixture.


You're also on record as saying that "many" Africans are more primitive in culture to filopeeenos.


Therefore you're racial shakanery on this forum is dismissed.


Go hang out with your racist friends on ------------

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Ramses is quite obviously of arab semetic origin. The big concern in DNA testing these kings would be the fear that the tests would show too close a link between kings like Tut and Ramses with jewish populations in the Levant. In todays mideast political climate this is a result Egyptisn lesaders would want to avoid at all costs.
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quote:
Originally posted by TheAmericanPatriot:
Ramses is quite obviously of arab semetic origin. The big concern in DNA testing these kings would be the fear that the tests would show too close a link between kings like Tut and Ramses with jewish populations in the Levant. In todays mideast political climate this is a result Egyptisn lesaders would want to avoid at all costs.

Why would Egyptian leaders care; they are not Black and neither are the current Levant pseudo-Arab Turkish populations? i.e. What is your point?
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quote:
Originally posted by TheAmericanPatriot:

Ramses is quite obviously of arab semetic origin...

Of course he most certainly was not! All historical records show Ramses and his family to be native Egyptians who's native tounge was Egyptian and NOT Semitic speakers from Arabia.

Ramses II (The Great)
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Seti I (Ramses the Great's father)
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And of course this certainly was the case for Tutankhamun:

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quote:
...The big concern in DNA testing these kings would be the fear that the tests would show too close a link between kings like Tut and Ramses with jewish populations in the Levant. In todays mideast political climate this is a result Egyptisn lesaders would want to avoid at all costs.
First of all, you contradict yourself since you stated these kings to be 'Arab' in the first place.

Second of all, there were no 'Arabs' in the ancient Levant anyway and that all modern day Arabs and Muslims agree with the fact that of course the peoples of the ancient Levant would have been primarily Jewish, specifically in the kingdom of Israel. This leads us to the simple fact that today, with the exception of the European Jews, there is no genetic distinction between 'Arab' or Muslim Palestinians and the native Jews who stayed in the Levant!

So of course the real reason why the Council of Antiquities and the rest of the Egyptian government is concerned over the DNA findings is quite obvious to anyone with sense.

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It seems that you are saying that the people who now occupy the Levant, are the same people as the original ancient people of the Levant, is that what you are saying??
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Djehuti, why did you state that Africans that were not "dark" were admixed?
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Obviously we are talking about the Syrian population that lived in the levant at the time.
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T. Rex Master,


Why don't you answer the questions below:


What are these "fine" features you keep harping about? What is "fine"?


We're waiting T. Rex.

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quote:
Originally posted by TheAmericanPatriot:
Obviously we are talking about the Syrian population that lived in the levant at the time.

Patriot: Are you answering my question? If so, exactly who were the Syrian population that lived in the levant at the time?
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the same people who comprised the hebrew population, ancestors of today's arabs.
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^ LOL You waste your time asking for any valid answers from 'patriot'. So allow me...

The people of ancient Syria were heterogeneous consisting of various tribes and varying lineages.

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^ Note the very dark (black) complexions of certian individuals.

Of course the ethnic makeup of Syrians have nothing to do with the ethnic makeup of the Pharaohs who were indigenous Egyptians/Africans.

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The Syrans and Egyptians were part of the same group of people.
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quote:
Originally posted by TheAmericanPatriot:

the same people who comprised the hebrew population, ancestors of today's arabs.

And again, the ancient peoples of Palestine/Israel were diverse as was Syria. Also let it be known that Syria, especially in the northern areas recieved influx of peoples from farther north including Indo-European speakers which explains the presence of peoples of 'white' phenotype in that area to this day.
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Djehuti - The world must be coming to an end; But I know that this is just a temporary period of lucidity, so I will not get too excited.
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quote:
Originally posted by TheAmericanPatriot:
the same people who comprised the hebrew population, ancestors of today's arabs.

The Syrans and Egyptians were part of the same group of people.

If you want to go back far enough, then you are correct; They were all Africans. However, as cultural groups, they were all different.

ANATOLIANS (Turkey):

8,000 B.C.

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1,000 B.C.

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CANAAN:

1,500 B.C.

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AMORITE (Hebrew)

1,800 B.C.

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ARAB:

645 B.C.

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quote:
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T. Rex Master wrote:
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just because a statue has "fine" features does not make it one of a Eurasian or non-black
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Fine features, still Africans
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What are these "fine" features you keep harping about? What is "fine".

I meant "narrow" features (i.e. narrow noses, lips, etc.). I used "fine" because I thought it was a synonym for narrow.
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T. Rex Master wrote:
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Ahhhhhh

The racist liberal speaks.

You're lying that is your definition not a dictionary's. You made that up according to your own deranged racism.

What dictionary on this planet did you get that definition from?

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quote:
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T. Rex Master wrote:
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Ahhhhhh

The racist liberal speaks.

You're lying that is your definition not a dictionary's. You made that up according to your own deranged racism.

What dictionary on this planet did you get that definition from?

How about:

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From dictionary.com (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/fine)
4. very thin or slender: fine thread.


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^ T-rex, why do you even bother with a psychopath like him?? [Embarrassed]
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T. Rex Master wrote:
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From dictionary.com (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/fine)
4. very thin or slender: fine thread.
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That definition says nothing about "narrow" which you claimed in the below.


T. Rex Master wrote:
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I meant "narrow" features (i.e. narrow noses, lips, etc.). I used "fine" because I thought it was a synonym for narrow.
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If fine meant "narrow" why isn't it in the dictionary's definition that you posted?

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Still, let us humor T. Rex Master and play along with his erroneous definition.


T. Rex Master wrote:
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I meant "narrow" features (i.e. narrow noses, lips, etc.)
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What is it about those two individuals you posted that makes you say they have "fine"/narrow features?


Also T. Rex Master, does Robert Mugabe have "fine"/narrow features? If not? Why not?

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Lol @ argyles arguments, only being to pick at words he doesn't agree with in a comment, and rely on his idiotic misinterpretations or just plain blatant lies, to receive an argumentative rebuttal, which he desires, since his intellect doesn't allow for anything above this level.

Wonder when he will actually offer something of relevant merit towards this board.

Argyle is a worthless poster, no one learns from him, he doesn't learn, and his intent is not on teaching anyone either.

Poor kid. Probably picked on throughout childhood, never gets the chance to say what he feels in person **ever**(since he's a coward), now chooses ES as his scapegoat and refuge.

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Interesting how Djehuti hates for statements posted to be questioned on what is supposed to be an intellectual and scholarly forum.


Seems that someone who believes statements cannot be questioned is someone who has a dogma. Therefore they should not be taken seriously at all since that is as anti-intellectual as it gets.

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Knowledgeiskey718 wrote:
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Lol @ argyles arguments, only being to pick at words he doesn't agree with in a comment, and rely on his idiotic misinterpretations or just plain blatant lies, to receive an argumentative rebuttal, which he desires, since his intellect doesn't allow for anything above this level.

Wonder when he will actually offer something of relevant merit towards this board.

Argyle is a worthless poster, no one learns from him, he doesn't learn, and his intent is not on teaching anyone either.

Poor kid. Probably picked on throughout childhood, never gets the chance to say what he feels in person **ever**(since he's a coward), now chooses ES as his scapegoat and refuge.
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Folks the above is a perfect example of an attempt to deflect and distract. It is the equivalent of waving the white flag of intellectual defeat.


Now back to the discussion.


T. Rex Master, we're waiting for your answers.

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quote:
Folks the above is a perfect example of an attempt to deflect and distract.
Distract from what? Let's be serious..


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It is the equivalent of waving the white flag of intellectual defeat.
Waving a flag to what? Lmao, Why do you repeat this same delusional comment over and over and over and over????
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quote:
Originally posted by Djehuti:
^ T-rex, why do you even bother with a psychopath like him?? [Embarrassed]

You have a good point, especially since all he has to offer is a ridiculous level of pedantry.

Honestly, I wonder whether the current gang of trolls is even serious. I wouldn't put it past some mischievous troublemaker to feign being an uber-Afrocentrist just to discredit our community.

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^^^^Ding Ding Ding.....This is what I've been saying, all along. They're on the low Euros, making idiotic arguments to distract from actual learning.


Another possibility of this is Egmond Codfried...

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T. Rex,


What is it about those two individuals you posted that makes you say they have "fine"/narrow features?


Also T. Rex Master, does Robert Mugabe have "fine"/narrow features? If not? Why not?

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T. Rex


This is an intellectual forum.

A. If you can't defend your views then maybe you shouldn't post.

B. If you can't defend your views then you are just another Eurocentrist posting his racial pseudoscience dogma.


Now again:

What is it about those two individuals you posted that makes you say they have "fine"/narrow features?


Also T. Rex Master, does Robert Mugabe have "fine"/narrow features? If not? Why not?

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Err um T. Rex, Robert Mugabe has so called "thin" lips. Does he have "fine"/narrow features? Why or why not?
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I'm baffled as to how anyone could consider Djehuti racist?

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Djehuti wrote:


Go hang out with your racist friends on ------------


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quote:
Originally posted by Afrosaxon:
I'm baffled as to how anyone could consider Djehuti racist?

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Djehuti wrote:


Go hang out with your racist friends on ------------


We are being played by a con-artist who uses more then seven nick's at the same time. Now Djehuti even stoops to 'criticising' himself to confuse the matter even further.
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T. Rex, these questions aren't hard. You posted a statement. Now there are questions regarding that statement.

Your looking like those racist Eurocentrists, T. Rex. Questions below are waiting for answers.


What is it about those two individuals you posted that makes you say they have "fine"/narrow features?


Also T. Rex Master, does Robert Mugabe have "fine"/narrow features? If not? Why not?

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humanity wrote:

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I'm baffled as to how anyone could consider Djehuti racist?
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That slant-eyed heap of dung has repeatedly made racial generalizations about Africans and believes in a racial hierarchy where Africans are the lowest.


He then propagates his nutty beliefs even further by fantasizing about a racial hierarchy within Africa itself, where in his crazed mind west Africans are the lowest.


He has even said himself that if west Africans are "light" then they are admixed. He also believes that Mauritania, Mali, Morocco, Algeria, Niger, and Tunisia are not west African because in his mind they do not have people that fit into his racial pseudoscience taxonomy.

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The crazed clown Djehuti has also made many remarks about this forum containing too many African Americans. He has repeatedly lamented that this forum is not B.E.T. and therefore should not be saturated with African Americans.


Notice how he racistly associates a television network with an entire ethnic group of people. That's the type of rhetoric that you see from racialists.

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quote:
Originally posted by Humanity:

I'm baffled as to how anyone could consider Djehuti racist?

Simple. The ones accusing me of being racist are liars!

Argyle for example has been accusing me of being racist and believing in somekind of "racial hierarchy", yet he fails time and again to prove how that is so. I never quotes anything I said as proof, because he has no proof. Instead he distorts what I or others say in his pathetic attempt to show we are racist. Of course everyone with intelligence isn't falling for it, and it's obvious that Argyle himself suffers from a severe case of psychological projection in which he himself is the racist but projects that guilt onto others.

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The crazed clown Djehuti has also made many remarks about this forum containing too many African Americans. He has repeatedly lamented that this forum is not B.E.T. and therefore should not be saturated with African Americans.

Incorrect. I never complained about there being too many African Americans. I merely complained about how there were too many radical Afrocentrics with racial agendas as is the case with Marc Washington, Clyde Winters, and Meninarmer. As well as people bringing up modern political 'black issues' which is why I said this wasn't B.E.T! This is Egyptsearch and the subject should be about ancient Egypt!

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Notice how he racistly associates a television network with an entire ethnic group of people. That's the type of rhetoric that you see from racialists.
Never did I associate all African Americans with B.E.T. Humanity, you see how this derranged psycho takes things out of context to fuel his neurosis? [Big Grin]
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^ If you met Argyle in real life. It would all make sense instantly.

But consider yourself lucky that you will never have to.

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^ These trolls are pathetic! Notice, how everytime we actually do discuss something pertinent to the subject of this board-- Ancient Egypt, they ruin it with their off tangent psychotic trolling!

These pathetic wap ass degenerates are glad they're in the UK!! Heru, please find out who they are and choke the hell out of them for me! [Embarrassed]

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Originally posted by argyle104:
The crazed clown Djehuti has also made many remarks about this forum containing too many African Americans. He has repeatedly lamented that this forum is not B.E.T. and therefore should not be saturated with African Americans.

This coming from the same person who said in another thread:

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Here we go another pathetic AA. You do know that it didn't matter where a person was from or who they were, they had a price on their head and could be sole anywhere and to anyone.

I know that interrupts your victim mama drama, but I don't give a damn. : )

Seems to me the one with a negative opinion of AAs is you.

Honestly, I do not believe you have any agenda other than mischief-making. You lie and flip-flop way too much to think you are being serious about anything.

Now would you kindly leave us alone and find something more productive to do?

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Djehuti has even said himself that if west Africans are "light" then they are admixed. He also believes that Mauritania, Mali, Morocco, Algeria, Niger, and Tunisia are not west African because in his mind they do not have people that fit into his racial pseudoscience taxonomy.


Notice how he's attempting to avoid this. But anyone who has been here have seen his posts.

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T. Rex,


err, umm we're still waiting for answers to the following:


What is it about those two individuals you posted that makes you say they have "fine"/narrow features?


Also T. Rex Master, does Robert Mugabe have "fine"/narrow features? If not? Why not?

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T. Rex wrote:
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Now would you kindly leave us alone and find something more productive to do?
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I don't make you post racial taxonomy Coon style posts. You decided to do that on your own and are now yelping like a scalede dog when you are called out on it.


T. Rex, we're waiting for your answers to the questions asked.

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