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The Black Man and the Real History of Flight By Robert Muhammad -Guest Columnist- Updated Apr 29, 2007, 03:05 pm Email this article Printable page
“Is there any thing whereof it may be said, See this is new? It hath been already of old time, which was before us.”--Ecclesiastes 1:10
Back on December 17, 2003, the world celebrated the 100th anniversary of the first (according to this world) successful flight of an aircraft.
But as the world celebrated Orville and Wilbur Wright’s 1903 technological achievement, there sits today in the Egyptian Museum in Cairo, a 2,000 year-old model glider which was found in an Egyptian tomb near Saqqara in 1898, a full five years prior to the Wright Brothers first successful flight.
This model glider was found not only to be over 2,000 years old, but according to scientists and flight engineers who tested it, was found to be capable of air flight!
In a summary of the scientific research and testing done by scientists on this ancient model glider, found in the book, “Blacks In Science, Ancient and Modern,” edited by Ivan Van Sertima, it states that this discovery by Dr. Khalil Messiha, “indicates that the Egyptians were experimenting with flying machines as early as the 4th or 3rd century B.C.”
In the same region of Africa, in a small town called El- Balyana, just north of Luxor, Egypt, in the ancient temple of Abydos—originally built by the Black Egyptian ruler Seti I and completed by his son Ramses II—there are 3,000-year-old hieroglyphic drawings of what clearly appears to be high-tech flying machines! (Reference: www.crystalinks.com/ancientaircraft.html
In a very informative book titled, “Technology of the Gods, The Incredible Sciences of the Ancients,” author David Hatcher Childress documents the discovery in 1875 of a 4th century B.C. text known as the Vaimanika Sastra, written by Maharshi Bhardwaj, in a temple in India.
According to the author, this text was taken from even older books which deal with the operation and technical schematics, including information on the steering, propulsion systems and construction blueprints, of ancient airships known in ancient India as “Vimanas.”
Several drawings done in 1923 of the actual construction blueprints of these vimana airships can be found in the above mentioned book by Mr. Childress.
According to Mr. Childress, and accounts reported in the foreign press, such as indiatimes.com, the Chinese have recently discovered some of these ancient documents in Tibet, and have sent them to ancient language expert Dr. Ruth Reyna of the University of Chandrigarh to be translated.
Reports on the research done on these ancient texts by Dr. Reyna state that these documents actually contain directions for building interstellar spaceships.
One of the oldest, most detailed records of ancient air travel known to still exist today, is the Indian text called the Ramayana, which chronicles the history of the Black Rama Empire of ancient India, which, according to some accounts, dates back to around 15,000 years ago.
According to the Ramayana, the Rama civilization was a well organized, high-tech civilization that ruled the Indian sub-continent for over 11,000 years. India’s own records of its history state that it dates back some hundreds of thousands of years.
It was thought by most historians that the Indian civilization of the subcontinent dated back no further than 1,000 to 500 B.C. But in 1922, with the discovery of the ancient cities of Harappa and Mohenjo Daro, and the Indus Valley civilization consisting of over one thousand cities, the history of civilization in India had to be pushed back by historians literally thousands of years, in line with ancient Indian texts such as the Ramayana and the Mahabharata, which is the larger and older text out of which the Ramayana came.
According to Mr. Childress, “The Rama Empire, described in the Mahabharata and the Ramayana, was supposedly contemporaneous with the great cultures of Atlantis and Osiris in the west. Atlantis, well known from Plato’s writings and ancient Egyptian records, apparently existed in the mid-Atlantic and was a very highly technological and patriarchal civilization....the Osirian civilization existed in the Mediterranean basin and North Africa, according to esoteric doctrine and archeological evidence. The Osirian civilization is generally known as pre-dynastic Egypt, and was flooded when Atlantis sank and the Mediterranean began to fill up with water.”
According to the Ramayana text, the Rama Empire was engaged in a series of devastating wars in which airships and high-tech weapons were used. It is supposed by Mr. Childress in his book, these wars could have been between the Rama Empire and Atlantis.
Mr. Childress also states, “The Rama Empire was started by the Nagas...the empire of the Nagas apparently began to extend all over northern India to include the cities of Harappa, Mohenjo-Daro, and Kot Diji...these cities were led by ‘Great Teachers’ or ‘Masters’ who were the benevolent aristocracy of the Rama civilization. Today, they are generally called ‘Priest- Kings’ of the Indus Valley Civilization.”
It must be stated at this point, that all historical evidence shows that the builders of the Indus Valley Civilization (and by extension the Rama Empire) and the civilizations of Atlantis and Osiris, were in fact original Black people.
The reality of the Black origins of ancient Indian or Indus Valley Civilization can be proven in the research done on this subject by various historians and anthropologists around the world.
According to researcher Indus Khamit Kush, in his book “What They Never Told You In History Class,” some of these historians and anthropologists would include the following: Professor George Rawlinson, in a work titled, “On the Affinities of the Races Western Asia,” states, “Recent linguistic discovery tends to show that a Cushite or Ethiopian race did in the earliest times extend itself along the shores of the Southern Ocean from Abyssinia to India. The whole peninsula of India was peopled by a race of this character before the influx of the Aryans...”; Historian F. Willord, in his work titled, “Asiatic Researches Vol. III,” states, “It is certain that the very ancient statues of Gods in India have crisp hair and the features of Negroes....a race of Negroes formerly had power and preeminence in India.”
As for the Osirian and Atlantian civilizations, the only known references in the historical records and reports on these civilizations originate from African historical sources. The legend of Atlantis was first revealed to the world in two of Plato’s dialogues called “Timaeus” and “Critias.” These dialogues, or stories, were conversions between Socrates, Hermocrates, Timaeus, and Critias, and were originally conveyed by an Athenian traveler and poet named Solon, who lived between 638 and 559 B.C.
According to Plato, Solon, while traveling in Egypt, learned the story of Atlantis from a Egyptian priest, who was relating a story of ancient events which had taken place some 9,000 years prior to that time.
So our understanding of the legend of Atlantis must be viewed within the context of 9,000 years of ancient African antiquity.
The same would apply to the Osirian legend of pre-dynastic Egypt, since all the historical data and research indicates that the pre-dynastic origins of Egypt began in the heartland of Africa.
This reality is confirmed in the well documented works of historians, J.A. Rogers, Cheikh Anta Diop, Albert Churchward, Gerald Massey and many others.
In considering the historical possibility of ancient civilizations building high-tech aircraft, it would be easy, based on what we have been taught to accept as our history in this world, to view such a claim as pure science-fiction.
But apparently, the scientist and military leaders of Nazi Germany who developed the V-2 rocket and other high-tech weapons during WWII, took this possibility quite seriously.
According to author Peter Moon, in his book “The Black Sun, Montauk’s Nazi-Tibetan Connection,” the Nazi SS under the direction of Heinrich Himmler, relentlessly searched throughout parts of India, Asia, (including Tibet) and Africa, for the ancient technologies of the Original Peoples in order to gain a military edge during World War II.
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^ROTFL And I thought Marc Washington and Clyde Winters had messed up thinking! Posts: 26260 | From: Atlanta, Georgia, USA | Registered: Feb 2005
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I've been looking for this for like for EVER ...
(on and off, a couple times a month, a few minutes per time, usually thru the archived threads of posters with PLANE avatars that i recall THE THREAD STARTER having HAD )
and it just happens to pop up when I'm not looking for it. Just wanted to do some further investigation on like two things mentioned as I skimmed over this too quickly last time (this is out there with the UFO conspiracies, I noticed, I have a brain).
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According to the Ramayana text, the Rama Empire was engaged in a series of devastating wars in which airships and high-tech weapons were used. It is supposed by Mr. Childress in his book, these wars could have been between the Rama Empire and Atlantis.
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quote:Originally posted by goldenarm: The Black Man and the Real History of Flight By Robert Muhammad -Guest Columnist- Updated Apr 29, 2007, 03:05 pm Email this article Printable page
“Is there any thing whereof it may be said, See this is new? It hath been already of old time, which was before us.”--Ecclesiastes 1:10
Back on December 17, 2003, the world celebrated the 100th anniversary of the first (according to this world) successful flight of an aircraft.
But as the world celebrated Orville and Wilbur Wright’s 1903 technological achievement, there sits today in the Egyptian Museum in Cairo, a 2,000 year-old model glider which was found in an Egyptian tomb near Saqqara in 1898, a full five years prior to the Wright Brothers first successful flight.
This model glider was found not only to be over 2,000 years old, but according to scientists and flight engineers who tested it, was found to be capable of air flight!
In a summary of the scientific research and testing done by scientists on this ancient model glider, found in the book, “Blacks In Science, Ancient and Modern,” edited by Ivan Van Sertima, it states that this discovery by Dr. Khalil Messiha, “indicates that the Egyptians were experimenting with flying machines as early as the 4th or 3rd century B.C.”
In the same region of Africa, in a small town called El- Balyana, just north of Luxor, Egypt, in the ancient temple of Abydos—originally built by the Black Egyptian ruler Seti I and completed by his son Ramses II—there are 3,000-year-old hieroglyphic drawings of what clearly appears to be high-tech flying machines! (Reference: www.crystalinks.com/ancientaircraft.html
In a very informative book titled, “Technology of the Gods, The Incredible Sciences of the Ancients,” author David Hatcher Childress documents the discovery in 1875 of a 4th century B.C. text known as the Vaimanika Sastra, written by Maharshi Bhardwaj, in a temple in India.
According to the author, this text was taken from even older books which deal with the operation and technical schematics, including information on the steering, propulsion systems and construction blueprints, of ancient airships known in ancient India as “Vimanas.”
Several drawings done in 1923 of the actual construction blueprints of these vimana airships can be found in the above mentioned book by Mr. Childress.
According to Mr. Childress, and accounts reported in the foreign press, such as indiatimes.com, the Chinese have recently discovered some of these ancient documents in Tibet, and have sent them to ancient language expert Dr. Ruth Reyna of the University of Chandrigarh to be translated.
Reports on the research done on these ancient texts by Dr. Reyna state that these documents actually contain directions for building interstellar spaceships.
One of the oldest, most detailed records of ancient air travel known to still exist today, is the Indian text called the Ramayana, which chronicles the history of the Black Rama Empire of ancient India, which, according to some accounts, dates back to around 15,000 years ago.
According to the Ramayana, the Rama civilization was a well organized, high-tech civilization that ruled the Indian sub-continent for over 11,000 years. India’s own records of its history state that it dates back some hundreds of thousands of years.
It was thought by most historians that the Indian civilization of the subcontinent dated back no further than 1,000 to 500 B.C. But in 1922, with the discovery of the ancient cities of Harappa and Mohenjo Daro, and the Indus Valley civilization consisting of over one thousand cities, the history of civilization in India had to be pushed back by historians literally thousands of years, in line with ancient Indian texts such as the Ramayana and the Mahabharata, which is the larger and older text out of which the Ramayana came.
According to Mr. Childress, “The Rama Empire, described in the Mahabharata and the Ramayana, was supposedly contemporaneous with the great cultures of Atlantis and Osiris in the west. Atlantis, well known from Plato’s writings and ancient Egyptian records, apparently existed in the mid-Atlantic and was a very highly technological and patriarchal civilization....the Osirian civilization existed in the Mediterranean basin and North Africa, according to esoteric doctrine and archeological evidence. The Osirian civilization is generally known as pre-dynastic Egypt, and was flooded when Atlantis sank and the Mediterranean began to fill up with water.”
According to the Ramayana text, the Rama Empire was engaged in a series of devastating wars in which airships and high-tech weapons were used. It is supposed by Mr. Childress in his book, these wars could have been between the Rama Empire and Atlantis.
Mr. Childress also states, “The Rama Empire was started by the Nagas...the empire of the Nagas apparently began to extend all over northern India to include the cities of Harappa, Mohenjo-Daro, and Kot Diji...these cities were led by ‘Great Teachers’ or ‘Masters’ who were the benevolent aristocracy of the Rama civilization. Today, they are generally called ‘Priest- Kings’ of the Indus Valley Civilization.”
It must be stated at this point, that all historical evidence shows that the builders of the Indus Valley Civilization (and by extension the Rama Empire) and the civilizations of Atlantis and Osiris, were in fact original Black people.
The reality of the Black origins of ancient Indian or Indus Valley Civilization can be proven in the research done on this subject by various historians and anthropologists around the world.
According to researcher Indus Khamit Kush, in his book “What They Never Told You In History Class,” some of these historians and anthropologists would include the following: Professor George Rawlinson, in a work titled, “On the Affinities of the Races Western Asia,” states, “Recent linguistic discovery tends to show that a Cushite or Ethiopian race did in the earliest times extend itself along the shores of the Southern Ocean from Abyssinia to India. The whole peninsula of India was peopled by a race of this character before the influx of the Aryans...”; Historian F. Willord, in his work titled, “Asiatic Researches Vol. III,” states, “It is certain that the very ancient statues of Gods in India have crisp hair and the features of Negroes....a race of Negroes formerly had power and preeminence in India.”
As for the Osirian and Atlantian civilizations, the only known references in the historical records and reports on these civilizations originate from African historical sources. The legend of Atlantis was first revealed to the world in two of Plato’s dialogues called “Timaeus” and “Critias.” These dialogues, or stories, were conversions between Socrates, Hermocrates, Timaeus, and Critias, and were originally conveyed by an Athenian traveler and poet named Solon, who lived between 638 and 559 B.C.
According to Plato, Solon, while traveling in Egypt, learned the story of Atlantis from a Egyptian priest, who was relating a story of ancient events which had taken place some 9,000 years prior to that time.
So our understanding of the legend of Atlantis must be viewed within the context of 9,000 years of ancient African antiquity.
The same would apply to the Osirian legend of pre-dynastic Egypt, since all the historical data and research indicates that the pre-dynastic origins of Egypt began in the heartland of Africa.
This reality is confirmed in the well documented works of historians, J.A. Rogers, Cheikh Anta Diop, Albert Churchward, Gerald Massey and many others.
In considering the historical possibility of ancient civilizations building high-tech aircraft, it would be easy, based on what we have been taught to accept as our history in this world, to view such a claim as pure science-fiction.
But apparently, the scientist and military leaders of Nazi Germany who developed the V-2 rocket and other high-tech weapons during WWII, took this possibility quite seriously.
According to author Peter Moon, in his book “The Black Sun, Montauk’s Nazi-Tibetan Connection,” the Nazi SS under the direction of Heinrich Himmler, relentlessly searched throughout parts of India, Asia, (including Tibet) and Africa, for the ancient technologies of the Original Peoples in order to gain a military edge during World War II.
Actually, there was a black man, a former slave living in a town outside of Gastonia, North Carolina who invented and actually flew an airplane a year before the Wright brothers. The man's home was assaulted and burned one night as well as his barn which contained the aircraft.
Them darn African Americans invented tons of technology now stolen and owned by Whites.
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Say if the images are real. Maybe they looked into the future using their sophisticated magic.
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quote:Originally posted by Alive-(What Box): names for possible research of this topic??
TALLADEGA — Some of Talladega’s history is obvious — its roots as an Indian village, its claim to the first black college in the state.
Although, each town has its own special pieces of history, it seems Talladega was once the cultural center of the state. It has produced or served as host to black inventors, innovators and artists.
Eastaboga resident Dr. Lewis Archer Boswell , a black surgeon with an insatiable interest in aviation, may have made a successful flight 11 months before the famous brothers.
He is said to have made his first flight of a model airplane in 1874 and of a larger plane in November 1902.
In 1986, the Talladega Historical Society gathered what evidence they could into a booklet called "Dr. Boswell Invents an Airplane."
Since and before then, there have been a number of articles with sources claiming that Boswell made it into the air first.
It is well documented that he had patents of inventions used in airplanes for decades and that he built models of his ideas, but there is no conclusive proof he ever sustained flight.
However, in the years following the Wright brothers’ flight in 1903, there were several inventors claiming that they had independently and successfully built and flown an airplane.
Many residents have heard the argument before, and some give Boswell a lot of credit.
Despite the inconclusive evidence, the Talladega Municipal Airport was christened Boswell Field in 2002.
In a press release from that year, Airport Board chairman Ray Miller said, "Since no airport was built at the site in Kitty Hawk, or any other site of the fledging flights of that era, we are confident that Boswell Field is the world’s first airport."
Likewise;
Open Heart
Dr. Elisha Henry Jones is one of the least-known, or at least the least-written-about, figures in Talladega’s history.
According to White’s book, Jones graduated from Talladega College in 1904 and received his medical license from the University of West Tennessee in 1909. He also served as a buffalo soldier during World War I.
Lifelong Talladega resident Robert Weaver has some recollection of Jones.
"I remember very well as a child on Armistice Day, Dr. Jones would put on his WW I uniform and wear it around town," Weaver said.
Some residents have said that he is the first doctor in town to have an X-ray machine in his office. More importantly, he is said to have performed the first heart surgery.
McGehee was told by the late librarian Willie Welch that a black man had been stabbed in the chest. White doctors said it was hopeless and refused to treat him.
Supposedly, Jones sewed shut the open heart and sat with the man until he was well enough to return to work.
Weaver said that he has heard that story all his life, but knows no details about it.
Likewise, there is little official documentation to support or disprove this piece of local legend history.
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quote:Originally posted by Ebony Allen: Say if the images are real. Maybe they looked into the future using their sophisticated magic.
Which images? Kemet's? Both ancient Kemet and ancient South America built miniture "planes" but only Kemet to our knowledge has been found with an actual tool of human 'aviation' - a gliding craft of some sort.
So yeah maybe. OR perhaps like kids (paper airplanes) today, people just had interest in what makes eagles glide and what lets falcons soar (aerodynamics).
Not getting 'smart' here, but people have always been interested in the "hows" of science. The Maya invented the most accurate Calender ever and a wind activated melodically tuned structure and Kemet even had an engine.
Ain't nothin' really new under the sun.
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It's good you draw attention to scholarship. That said I never professed scholarship. As a matter of fact I wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole; too many loose ends it seems to me; too many points of contention for too many folks here. The world and its history is indeed a strange and perplexing place; not so for some truth holders on this site however. But I do understand the ''need'' to be right. Then, inevitably, another truth lurks around the intellectual bend and crimps that truth. The physchology of it all is interesting in itself.
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This thread doesn't belong here. Moved to the other "Ancient Egypt" subforum.
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