quote:Originally posted by TheAmericanPatriot: [QB] That the best and the brightest from Africa do well is not helpful.]
Of course not as this is clearly a red herring since we are discussing innate abilities of people in general and a "random pool" of African immigrants who are "better and brighter" than Europeans [immigrant or natural-born]..
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There is always the exception that proves the rule. Obviously Condi Rice and Walter Williams do not reflect the black community at large.
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quote:Originally posted by TheAmericanPatriot: There is always the exception that proves the rule. Obviously Condi Rice and Walter Williams do not reflect the black community at large.
Has nothing to do with why African immigrants [who are not African-Americans and thus, not an exception] do much better than Europeans everywhere they go. When Blacks are placed in similar sociological and psychological conditions, they excel, even above and beyond whites or Asians. Now that's telling. Posts: 4021 | From: Bay Area, CA | Registered: Mar 2007
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Your logic if flawed. You are looking at a tiny percentage of African students and trying to draw a conclusion from it. The average AFRICAN student is not on the level of those who leave the country. the only thing your example proves is that Africa has brain drain, and that is not a good thing.
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quote:Originally posted by TheAmericanPatriot: Your logic if flawed. You are looking at a tiny percentage of African students and trying to draw a conclusion from it. The average AFRICAN student is not on the level of those who leave the country. the only thing your example proves is that Africa has brain drain, and that is not a good thing.
Neither is the average American of any ethnic or national background (save for national East Asians).
quote:The solution is to roll up our sleeves and get to work. For years I have advocated the creation of more vocational schools for our non college bound students. The Oklahoma model is a good place to start where every county has a vocational school avilable. As it stands now too many students graduate from high school with a watered down diploma, a desire for an income but with no skills to make it. The tracking system used by the Germans is a great place to start. Students are tested at age 12 or 13 and either put on a vocational or a college bound track.
Discpline simply has to be put back in the schools. A strict dress code needs to be put in place. Boys who get teenage girls pregnant should be placed in some form of military service so that the girl's medical bills can be paid. He should not be allowed to leave until he has a skill that qualifies him to continue the payments.
I like what you say here.
IQ "intelligence" "debate" shouldn't get in the way of reality, we no what the situation is, many people are unskilled, there are a shortage of jobs and skills and that's bad.
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quote:Originally posted by TheAmericanPatriot: Your logic if flawed. You are looking at a tiny percentage of African students and trying to draw a conclusion from it. The average AFRICAN student is not on the level of those who leave the country. the only thing your example proves is that Africa has brain drain, and that is not a good thing.
You're being ignorant..
Sample - A portion, piece, or segment that is representative of a whole.
In statistics you use a sample to extrapolate your results to the whole of a population group.
Statistics. A set of elements drawn from and analyzed to estimate the characteristics of a population. Also called sampling
quote:The information presented above suggests that African born blacks residing in western countries as a group possess IQs that are between 5 points and a full standard deviation (15 IQ points) above that of whites living in these countries (see, Gottfredson, 1998; Ostrowsky, 1999; Richardson, 2002; Cross, 1994; Williams, 2005; Nisbett, 2002).
^^The implications are far-reaching..
Again, whites and Blacks bred under the same conditions (which is the best criteria we can use), suggests that Blacks outperform them in almost any context..
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It is not representative of the whole. Your sample does not include the entire African population, it only includes those who had the ability to leave. IF the scores of other africans matched those who left you would be using them, you do not for all of the obvious reasons.
This is exactly what you do with history. You find a scrap of information and try to spin it into an entire history.
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quote:Originally posted by TheAmericanPatriot: [QB] It is not representative of the whole. Your sample does not include the entire African population
Because they cannot be controlled [as a variable or group]. Dude, do you know anything about experimentation? You have no clue, do you? They are two unrelated variables, the only way to experiment is to have at least two variables under identical conditions to contrast the conclusions. Surely you have no idea what you're talking about.
Once more, under the same set of sociological and psychological conditions, Blacks outperform whites, period. This has not been refuted or challenged.
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That is jibberish. Black IQ's are lower across the board. We can all see what a wonderful job these brilliant people have done in Africa, the place is on life support. You live in the Bay Area, drive around in the black section of oakland and check out the mental giants who live there. Take a walk through any of our penal institutions and scheck out those scholars.
Houston ISD is giving 20K bonus money RIGHT NOW because nobody wants to teach these brilliant ghetto scholars. Have a cup of coffee Sundjata and wake up and maybe you can make a contribution.
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quote:Originally posted by TheAmericanPatriot: That is jibberish.
Translation: "I don't comprehend what you just explained to me [as he takes swig of beer]..
^In layman's terms, you're trying to contaminate the sample by introducing into it another non-parallel sample. They cannot be compared or contrasted. The rest of your rant has already been contradicted by these methods that I'm explaining to you.
quote:The information presented above suggests that African born blacks residing in western countries as a group possess IQs that are between 5 points and a full standard deviation (15 IQ points) above that of whites living in these countries (see, Gottfredson, 1998; Ostrowsky, 1999; Richardson, 2002; Cross, 1994; Williams, 2005; Nisbett, 2002).
^^In other words, it can be concluded definitively that whites are not smarter than anyone. A different debate can emerge from these revelations, although it's something that I wouldn't encourage. Posts: 4021 | From: Bay Area, CA | Registered: Mar 2007
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The immigrant group is not a controled sample. You prove my point on black IQ's. bet you are not qualified to get one of those Houston ISD teaching jobs, huh Sundjata.
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quote:Originally posted by TheAmericanPatriot: [QB] The immigrant group is not a controlded sample.
They are the experimental group (the group under study).. THEY are the ones who were the point of comparison and with in racial models, they totally destroy the formerly referenced hierarchy. Your posts are becoming increasingly incoherent btw....
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They are an isolated group and are the exception that proves the rule that blacks in general have lower IQ's than any other racial group. You are living proof of that Sundjata.
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quote:Originally posted by TheAmericanPatriot: [QB] They are an isolated group
That doesn't make sense. They are a group, period. We intentionally isolate them from biased "racial" clusters for better methodology. This is the least biased alternative which clearly shows whites lagging behind both Blacks and Asians. No way around that.
AP.. Give up. I promise you that you are not making any sense and are just embarrassing your nordic brothers and sisters right now..
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Why are people discussing a topic that has been beaten to death??
If blacks are so intellectually inferior, then why is it Western countries from the U.S. and Canada, to those in Europe are literally importing Africans the same way they do Asians to work jobs in advanced science and technology as well as medicine and engineering?? Of course they have to import Africans because their local students including whites score poorly in academics compared to their African and Asian counterparts. In European nations like the UK Africans score the highest outperforming Asians, but of course that is anathema to the white male ego isn't it 'professor'??
It's a shame that because of European colonists destroying the economic infrastructures of African nations, the best and brightest Africans are forced to give their intellect and skills to the same Western nations responsible for the demise of their countries. Posts: 26307 | From: Atlanta, Georgia, USA | Registered: Feb 2005
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Oh it is all the fault of the evil white man. Poor pitiful blacks, I guess that makes them too slow to defend themselves. You defeat your own argument Djehuti, as usual.
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^ And as usual, you make no argument because you make no sense! All you present are silly strawmen! What do Africans as well as Asians who weren't able to defeat European invaders have to do with the fact that European today rely on the intellectual powers of the same Africans and Asians for their infrastructure because thier own youth have become too intellectually complacent and academically incompitent??!! Deep down, I think white males like you know that the only way you can surpass Africans economically is through destruction of their economy and not true fair competition.
Remember, that during Medieval times the 'World Economy' consisted only of Africa and Asia, with Europe's economy literally sustained by the gold and salt of Africa until the discovery of the so-called "New World". It was during the so-called 'Age of Imperialism' that Europeans were no more than robbers when it came to economic power. You know this bothers you so you have to rationalize this as whites being inherently smarter for being the robbers while the victims like Africans must be intellectually inferior for allowing themselves to be robbed. Sounds no different from a (black) thug in the hood, but worse for it was done in a much more massive scale that has effected entire nations and societies for generations to come!
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It has everything to do with intelligence. The very first criteria of intelligence is to understand the enviroment and cope with it. That the euros were advanced enough to enslave all of Africa tells you everything you need to know. The group you are speaking of is only a small minute segment of the black population.
How long are we going to have to wait for the rest of these brilliant scholars to catch up????
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^ First of all, Euros did not enslave *all* of Africa, even though they tried. And second of all, the only thing Euros had that was more advanced than Africa was weapons technology which itself as well as other advances were merely borrowings from Asia! So apparently Euros aren't as superior as you think!
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Oh I see, we have an African Shakespeare? Newton? The fact is Djehhuti Europeans knew how to use the info they got regardless. You cannot argue with success and even more important....you cannot argue with failure.
Africa is a sewer and always has been. Europeans found it in an almost neolitihic state in the 17th century. If you look at a list of the economic power of the world African nations comprise the bottom 30. In America blacks lead the nation in every single negative catagory. As one Pennsylvania State Senator said, "blacks are intent on cultural suicide." Been to Detroit lately? It is literally more dangerous than Baghdad. That is these brilliant people you are talking about.
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^LOL.. Funny how the white supremacist mind is so easily distracted away from the problem of the African immigrant being "better and brighter" than their European counterparts.
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quote:Originally posted by Sundjata: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by SirInfamous: LMAO @ this clown posting papers by Philippe Rushton who has been debunked and put to shame a long time ago! He is a known Eugenicists and tried that same nonsense with women, only to again, be thoroughly and swiftly debunked by the entire scientific community! You are citing crack pots and it's hilarious that he's the only source for racist weirdos to latch on to.
It's not just Rushton who thinks these things, it's others such as Charles Spearman, Arthur Jensen, Linda Gottfredson, David Rowe, Charles Murray, Satoshi Kanazawa, Richard Lynn, and Richard J. Herrnstein.
Anyways your beef is with the data he has collected. Do you think he is sabotaging the results or something?
I'm not going to argue about this topic, I don't even like the reality of it. It's not my cup of tea.
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quote:Originally posted by SirInfamous: Do you think he is sabotaging the results or something?
You are so naive. Why not read the criticism against him instead of promoting your religious faith?? His results are based on a faulty premise and his data is misappropriated, distorted, and out of context. He and his ilk are pseudoscientists who only Klan members cite. Like I've already stated, Flynn made him and Jensen back track on their entire theory! Try reading some of the links already posted that directly address him and stop appealing to ignorance..
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It is stupid to argue with blacks that their race is intellectually inferior. Who the **** would admit their race was intellectually inferior?
What good will come out of it? That's the whole root of this negro-centric pseudo historic nonsense anyways.....about a mythical black past that ruled the world. It's a response to hundreds of years of racsim telling them that they are nothing but savages.
Another thing is IQ does not mean everything, it doesn't mean creativeness or "street smarts". Why would Europe be more advanced than East Asia for the majority of it's history (minus the dark ages) if IQ was everything? It's been proven they are even higher than us.
There is no way to test "race and intelligence", just "race and IQ".
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quote:Originally posted by TheAmericanPatriot: Oh it is all the fault of the evil white man. Poor pitiful blacks, I guess that makes them too slow to defend themselves. You defeat your own argument Djehuti, as usual.
deceptions, lies, stealing, mass murder, slavery, colonization, the spread of disease as bio-warfare, the creation of the 'gun' the nuclear bomb, the creation of all vehicles of war and destruction......and as you said and admit raw hatred..
Blacks had to learn this new way of life, from Whites...... Whites invented hatred, and every other race had to follow suit or die..
We agree here, Blacks were never as talented as Whites as far as radical raw hatred - used as a 'tool' to take over the world.
Every where Blacks are on this planet, has been interfered with by Whites, our perceived failure to you -- is the direct result of your people's great hatred of us as a people!
Our gains as a people are always interfered with by White people.
Your hatred is your disease, and our motivation to continue to with out use of nuclear weapons and the create of man-made disease to PASS you and as you can see by your dwindling population size and your losses in the White House - a great tide is coming, without wars, without committed your people to slavery, without sending your people the gift of 'smallpox' as a gift like your people did the Native Americans, without putting your people in concentration camps like you did the Japanese after you dropped nuclear bombs on their women and children -- with out any of the oppressive methods Whites use....
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quote:Originally posted by TheAmericanPatriot: [QB] The immigrant group is not a controlded sample.
Gee, for someone who claims to be a teacher, and is also adamant about blacks being intellectually inferior, you sure do make a lot of elementary grammatical errors.
What is controlded?
I also see you tried to correct yourself, and still wound up spelling said word incorrectly. Go figure.
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There is no way to test "race and intelligence", just "race and IQ". [/QB]
Yet you cite Rushton who says it is while also claiming Blacks to be intellectually inferior, in addition to not understanding what the g factor supposedly measures (which is at the center of the IQ so-called debate)? ROTFLMAO!! We have an illiterate teacher and a delusioned dimwit who doesn't know when he contradicts himself. Wow, racists really do have low IQs..
quote:Originally posted by Afroblack: the creation of the 'gun
Too much credit. You'd have to talk to the Arabs about that one.
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quote:Originally posted by TheAmericanPatriot: Oh I see, we have an African Shakespeare? Newton? The fact is Djehhuti Europeans knew how to use the info they got regardless. You cannot argue with success and even more important....you cannot argue with failure.
As usual professor, you failed to address any of the bits of info I gave on African history. That they had native economies that were thriving and involved with global trade before Europeans. That their medicine and biological science was actually more advanced than those of Europe etc.
quote:Africa is a sewer and always has been. Europeans found it in an almost neolitihic state in the 17th century...
Really, then what do you call Egypt?? Oh I forgot, even though it's on African soil it's not really African because the people aren't really Africans just 'cacazoids' from Asia who happened to settle in Africa and build a civilization there, right?
What about all the others...
Surely all these kingdoms and nations comprised of cities and urbanised states as well as complex government and economies along with science and metal based technology (including the use of steel which predates Europe) does not constitute simple "neolithic" societies. Enough, of your big white lies.
quote:...If you look at a list of the economic power of the world African nations comprise the bottom 30.
Yes, in modern times, again quite a different story from Medieval Times. And only became that way when Europeans destroyed their economic infrastructure. As usual you are going in circles 'professor'. You brag about the current delapidated economic situation in Africa as if it was always that way, then I point to you the opposite in past historical times only for you to ignore that etc. etc. It's really becoming tiring.
quote:...In America blacks lead the nation in every single negative catagory.
Really? Such as??
According to Federal statistics: white males make up the majority of rapists (60%), pedophiles (over 80%), steal the most money--corporate theft and financial embezzlement (90%), and get this-- make up the majority on welfare!! (over 60%)!! Though, what this has to do with significant African presence in history is beyond me.
quote:As one Pennsylvania State Senator said, "blacks are intent on cultural suicide." Been to Detroit lately? It is literally more dangerous than Baghdad. That is these brilliant people you are talking about.
This may be true about some blacks in America, of course not all. I know of more intelligent and successful African Americans here in my community in Atlanta than the opposite. But again, what do current problems in the African American community have to do with the significant role of Africa and Africans in world history??!
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We don't even need African Immigrants to prove our equality to your race.
Bond (1924) early last century pointed out that the average IQ scores of African Americans from several northern states were higher than those for whites from many southern states (Bond, 1924a, p. 63). He argued that African Americans who migrated to the North must have left their "duller and less accomplished White fellows in the South." Indeed, at that time upward of 85% of African Americans resided in the South, as most still do, to do this day. Bond also believed that IQ test scores reflected social and educational training. Inline with this belief, Jenkins's (1936) reported the results of IQ tests given to Black and White children in Illinois, and found that the proportion of students with scores over 130 was the same among Black and White children when environmental influences were comparable. A study involving Caribbean children would essentially replicate these findings. For example, this study found that when raised in the same enriched institutional environments as white children; black children demonstrated superior IQ test scores. The IQ’s of the children in this particular orphanage were: Blacks 108, Mixed 106, and Whites 103 (Tizard et al, 1972).
In the United States, when matched for IQ with Whites, American Blacks have been shown to demonstrate superior “Working Memory ” (Nijenhuis et al., 2004). This is an interesting finding, as African Americans are typically taught by less qualified teachers (e.g. non-certified teachers and teachers with limited experience) than their white counterparts, and are provided with less challenging school work (Hallinan 1994; Diamond et al., 2004; Uhlenberg and Brown 2004).
Serpell et al. (2006) took 162 low-income African American and white fourth graders and assigned them, randomly, to ethnically homogeneous groups of three to work on a motion acceleration task, using computer simulation or physical tools; or to a control group that did not participate in the learning activities. It was shown that both African American and White students performed equally well on the test of initial learning, with both groups scoring significantly higher than the control group. However, this study also found that African American’s transfer outcomes were superior to those of their White counterparts (Serpell et al., 2006). The study demonstrated, empirically, that not only do African American children learn as well as white children, but that they may also exceed white children in their ability to transfer learned abilities to real tasks; further highlighting the need for better education for this group.
Barnes (1972) noted that the Stanford-Binet, and the Wisc IQ tests are examples of “Culture specific tests,” and that the culture in this instance is what is referred to as “white middle class” culture. Lyman (1970) designed a cross cultural test called the “American Cross Culture Ethnic Nomenclature Test”, or “ACCENT.” The instrument contained 20 black biased and 20 white biased items. In one experiment this test was administered to 110 undergraduates (91 whites and 19 blacks). It was found that the black participants out performed the white participants, with blacks obtaining a mean of 15.3 on the black items and 11.1 on the white items, while white subjects obtained a mean of 12.7 on the white items and 8.3 on the black items. The results indicate that when blacks and whites are tested cross-culturally that blacks may outperform whites.
Africa isn't in the condition it is in because of Low IQ's.
Research has shown that IQ test scores tend to correlate negatively with scores of practical intelligence (Sternberg, 2001, 2004). Practical intelligence can be described as a person’s ability to apply learned skills and knowledge to everyday, real life tasks; or how to handle challenging situations. There is currently a lot of evidence demonstrating IQ tests to be unable to gauge a person’s overall potential or aptitude for learning (see Bradshaw, 2001; Siegel, 1989; Sternberg & Grigorenko, 2002a). What this means essentially is that a person who scores unusually high on an IQ test may not be an especially great learner (Sternberg, 2001). In fact, high scoring individuals may actually be demonstrating deficits in other areas; particularly in areas involving adaptive behavior or “practical intelligence” (See Sternberg, 2001).
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^ Of course, all the above is correct. The reason why I focus on African immigrants from the continent is because the very contestation I have with Pat is his absurd claims of Africa in history as support of his absurd claims to why all blacks in the diaspora both in the continent and outside it are supposedly the 'dregs' of the world!!
You see, Pat like all racist white males, is a player hater. He hates blacks because he knows the only reason why he and other whites reign supreme over people of color and especially blacks is not because he and other whites are inherently superior but because they had to beat them down first. It is merely a silly imperialist attitude that because they were able to take over by violence and force that they must be 'superior'. Again, this is no different from a thug in the ghetto who robs an unarmed victim at gunpoint and claims his superiority because he had that 'power' while the victim didn't. Again, white men like Pat are very similar only worse because their robbery was on a much more massive scale and their brainwashing of their 'supremacy' was also extensive!
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quote:Oh I see, we have an African Shakespeare? Newton? The fact is Djehhuti Europeans knew how to use the info they got regardless. You cannot argue with success and even more important....you cannot argue with failure.
Here are some tactics he is going to use to refute your map.
Change the criteria for defining race. For example, one drop of ***** blood in America makes you a *****, no matter how light your skin. When reporting ancient history, reverse the standard. Make one drop of white blood render someone a Caucasian no matter how dark the skin. (Test this criteria during the "riding-at-the-back-of the-bus" era of the South during the 1940s in the USA. Be assured that any of the Pharaoh's of Egypt, especially up to and including the 25th Dynasty, would have been required to sit at the back of the bus.)
When black participation in civilization is so obvious your best schemes can't hide it, find a way to attribute the success to outside white influence.
When all the ancient historians contradict your theory, seek to discredit them.
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quote:Originally posted by afroblack: Most inventions did not take place in Europe !
Paper = China Coffee= Africa Gunpowder = China compass = China Biology = Saudi Arabia with the help of this black man http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Jahiz
Also add:
Carbon Steel = Africa Binary mathematics = Africa
I have now learned that it's quite nuts to argue with racist loons like Americanparrot and the others. It doesn't matter how much factual and reasonable information you give to them...they are for all intents and purposes - RETARDED , in the truest sense of the word. Intellectually unbalanced. No normal person can get so much rational information and still parrot the same thing over and over. Einstein calls them crazy.
In the 1920s these people might have murdered blacks with no remorse. This is how deep their mental dementia goes.
Let's just thank god or whoever responsible that they spend a lot of time on a pc.
Hotep
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Also, the situation of NON-Voluntary versus VOLUNTARY immigrants/emigrants seems to be the same worldwide:
"Herrnstein and Murray mention the work of John Ogbu, an anthropologist who has distinguished a number of types of oppressed minorities. A key category is that of "caste-like" minorities who are regarded by themselves and others as inferior, and who, if they are immigrants, are not voluntary immigrants. This category includes the Harijans in India, the Buraku and Koreans in Japan, and the Maori in New Zealand. He distinguishes them from groups like Chinese and Jews who are voluntary immigrants and have a culture of self-respect. If higher socio-economic status Blacks still are to some extent part of a caste-like minority, then they will be at an environmental disadvantage relative to higher socio-economic status Whites. But low status Blacks and Whites are more likely to share a caste background. As Henry Louis Gates, Jr., points out (New Republic, October 31, 1994), affirmative action has had the effect of quadrupling the size of the Black middle class since 1967 . Most middle class Blacks have arrived in the middle classes relatively recently, many of them under less than ideal conditions for the development of self-respect. It would be surprising if children of these newly middle-class Blacks were to have fully escaped their caste background in so short a time.
Ogbu notes that where IQ tests have been given, "the children of these caste-like minorities score about 10-15 points . . . lower than dominant group children ." He notes further that differences remain "when minority and dominant group members are of similar socioeconomic background." But when "members of a caste-like minority group emigrate to another society, the twin problem of low IQ test scores and low academic achievement appears to disappear. Data suggest that the Buraku who have emigrated to this country do "at least as well at school and the work place" as other Japanese."
This explains clearly why African immigrants achieve higher education levels than their immigrant and non-immigrant counterparts. Interestingly, the great majority of them are from majority black countries in east and west Africa. Posts: 455 | From: Tharsis Montes | Registered: Jan 2009
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^ So what is racistparrot's response to all of the above?? What do you have to say about all of this 'professor'?? You still there? LOL
You see. It's the same M.O. When faced with insurmountable and unrefutable evidence the nutty professor leaves in silence, only to raise its crazy head again sometime in the future. TheGaul is correct, this guy is no different from a mental retard.
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To show intelligence on a supreme level would be to not feed the trolls and lets them entertain themselves.
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Threads like this are interesting because they usually begin as nothing more than troll threads (ArabEgypt is not the sharpest knife in the drawer) and evolve into complex discussions.
The racists clearly lost the debate so lets move on to other topics.
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