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Tut is not enough, so here we go again.... Caught in the act.
No major accomplishments of their own, they steal achievements of others, especially, blacks. This time, France attempts to credit whites as being the author of the nation's greatest great novels such as, The Three Musketeers and The Count Of Monte Christo, well known to have been written by a black man, son of Haitian born General, Thomas Dumas.
Dumas film with white actor Depardieu sparks race row
By Emma Jane Kirby BBC News, Paris
French actor Gerard Depardieu (file image) Gerard Depardieu's natural skin tone was not dark enough
A film about 19th Century French author Alexandre Dumas has sparked a row after a white actor was chosen to portray the novelist, who was of African origin.
The celebrated but fair-skinned screen star, Gerard Depardieu, had to darken his skin and wear a curly wig to play the part in L'Autre Dumas.
Critics argue the French movie industry has deliberately undermined the 19th Century novelist's ethnicity.
They say a mixed race actor should have been chosen to play the national hero.
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After reading about sister who wrote Matrix I am convinced they will stop at nothing to make money.
I have to admit, I am ashamed to NOT know Dumas was black. Maybe I forgot.
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You ain't the only person. To think the very popular Musketeers was written by a African Man(Hatian) is also news to me.
I always here how progressive France is compared to other European countries. To see them do this is just sad. Don't forget how Ghandi was played by Ben Kingsly a european.
I guess what hurts Europeans is anything Good that does not Star them. Shameful. Rare to have a Hollywood movie that stars Africans as the Heroes. Hopefully this kind of Self Hatred and desperate Heroe complex will be weeded out sooner rather then later.
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Does he look Negro to you? How fukcing desperate are Afrocentrists to try to hi-jack history that does not even belong to them? Dumas was sixty-six percent white and seventeen percent black. Yet the Afrocentrist, in his/her desperation to link themselves to nobility, will ignore the overwhelmingly WHITE blood in Dumas. You guys are a sick lot.
"Dumas' paternal grandparents were Marquis Alexandre-Antoine Davy de la Pailleterie, a French nobleman and Général commissaire in the Artillery in the colony of Saint-Domingue — now Haiti — and Marie-Cesette Dumas, an Afro-Caribbean Creole of mixed French and African ancestry" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexandre_Dumas,_p%C3%A8re#Life
Afrocentrism is a SERIOUS pathology.
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So then why did you not apply the same reasoning to Dumas who was 66 percent white? His father was white or, as you put it, "but at least... is actually partly... - descended."
You are a pathetic hypocrite.
quote:But at least Ben Kingsley is actually partly Indian-descended.
So then why did you not apply the same reasoning to Dumas whose father was 66 percent white? His father was white or, as you put it, "but at least... is actually partly... - descended."
You are a pathetic hypocrite.
fuckhead, where is Dumas mentioned by me.
Learn to read alphabets.
Ps: And in any case, you should be talking about the immediate ancestry of the person playing him, not Dumas himself.
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What more pathetic is you race loons can't get your story straight. Obama is black by your definition since he is what. . . .50/50. Dumas is white because he is 17/83(LOL). But Rev Wright is black although he is 10/90. What happened to the one drop rule. Where does black stop and white begin.
What a fugcked up group of people!!!
You criteria is. . . if it is great it must be white. LOL.
FYI- I always maintained Obama is neither Black nor White
quote:Originally posted by Confirming Truth: . . . will ignore the overwhelmingly WHITE blood in Dumas. You guys are a sick lot.
. . Afro-Caribbean Creole of mixed French and African ancestry" . . ..
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I don't give a damn what you maintain. My mssg was directed to the turd, OP, Who obviously thinks the "one drop" rule is scientific.
Historically, culturally, phoenotypically and genetically, the white frenchman has more right to play the role of Dumas than a black man. And sir, that is a fact. Now... go fvck yourself.
quote:Originally posted by xyyman: What more pathetic is you race loons can't get your story straight. Obama is black by your definition since he is what. . . .50/50. Dumas is white because he is 17/83(LOL). But Rev Wright is black although he is 10/90. What happened to the one drop rule. Where does black stop and white begin.
What a fugcked up group of people!!!
You criteria is. . . if it is great it must be white. LOL.
FYI- I always maintained Obama is neither Black nor White
quote:Originally posted by Confirming Truth: . . . will ignore the overwhelmingly WHITE blood in Dumas. You guys are a sick lot.
. . Afro-Caribbean Creole of mixed French and African ancestry" . . ..
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You have turds lacking any tangible relationship, on any level, with the ancient Egyptians. Yet they call themselves descendants of those people. And your point is, sir? I think, what he called himself is, frankly, IRRELEVANT. This display of yours only shows the lengths Afronuts will go to out of desperation, to link themselves to history.
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: ^Anybody know what HE called himself?
Historically, culturally, phoenotypically and genetically, the Black African has more right to play the role of Ancient Egyptians than a white man. And sir, that is a fact. Now... go fvck yourself.
quote:Originally posted by Gigantic: I don't give a damn what you maintain. My mssg was directed to the turd, OP, Who obviously thinks the "one drop" rule is scientific.
Historically, culturally, phoenotypically and genetically, the white frenchman has more right to play the role of Dumas than a black man. And sir, that is a fact. Now... go fvck yourself.
quote:Originally posted by xyyman: What more pathetic is you race loons can't get your story straight. Obama is black by your definition since he is what. . . .50/50. Dumas is white because he is 17/83(LOL). But Rev Wright is black although he is 10/90. What happened to the one drop rule. Where does black stop and white begin.
What a fugcked up group of people!!!
You criteria is. . . if it is great it must be white. LOL.
FYI- I always maintained Obama is neither Black nor White
quote:Originally posted by Confirming Truth: . . . will ignore the overwhelmingly WHITE blood in Dumas. You guys are a sick lot.
. . Afro-Caribbean Creole of mixed French and African ancestry" . . ..
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That Gigantic guy is catching on!!!! LOL. Those are the most logical words that ever came out of his mouth eh! fingers.
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quote:Originally posted by Mike111: ^Anybody know what HE called himself?
He, as did his father, STRONGLY referred to themselves as, BLACK. This too, is in the history books. In fact, the sole reason Napoleon came down on his father so hard and drove him to poverty is due to his being a member of the black race.
See, this is the hidden problem with allowing whites to adopt black children which seems to be the fad today in Hollywood.
This Bullshit about "66%" white is a farce, or does anyone here know the mother's parental history which chances are, also had a percentage of black blood?
In reality, he look pretty much like African Americans such as Adam Clayton Powell or many mulattoes of the south.
Point is, once again we directly observe Europeans as the non-contributing, thieving cultural frauds they truly are.
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quote:Originally posted by xyyman: That Gigantic guy is catching on!!!! LOL. Those are the most logical words that ever came out of his mouth eh! fingers.
GiganticAss is just Hammer. Same whore, new dress. Posts: 2403 | Registered: Feb 2010
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^ More than likely some white took the photos and made the drawings while using the opportunity to "brighten" it up. They do the same thing today in Hollywood to Oprah, Mary J, and other blacks.
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xyy, you did not know dumas was black because he was not black. Can we get any goofier? Posts: 2036 | From: Texas | Registered: Sep 2009
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Somebody save this thread for future generations. xyyman, those black pictures showing the REAL Dumas will likely disappear leaving only the whitened ones as references. That is what they do.
quote:Originally posted by MelaninKing: [QB] Tut is not enough, so here we go again.... Caught in the act.
No major accomplishments of their own, they steal achievements of others, especially, blacks. This time, France attempts to credit whites as being the author of the nation's greatest great novels such as, The Three Musketeers and The Count Of Monte Christo, well known to have been written by a black man, son of Haitian born General, Thomas Dumas.
have you read these books? Do you like them?
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They are funny along with being some of the most ignorant pople walking around on two legs.
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In terms of race quanta it should be noted that according to well-known geneticist Cavalli-Sforza Europeans are genetically 33.3% African in terms of genotype. This stands to reason given that Europeans are descendants of population groups that originated in Africa.
Thus the claim that a black-white biracial perosn would be 50% Black and 50% White would be erroneous--given the Cavalli-Sforza hypothesis. Dumas would then be much less than the 66% white as claimed above.
Whatever his genetic background it would be disingenuous to cast Depardieu as Dumas. In Haiti he would have been seen as a "mulatre"--not a "blanc". And with that bushy hair he might find it hard to get a taxi sometimes or enter "Europeans Only" restaurants in South Africa during the days of Apartheid.
Oh well, maybe Sidney Poitier(nice French name) could play Louis XIV or Napoleon one day.
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Does he look Negro to you? How fukcing desperate are Afrocentrists to try to hi-jack history that does not even belong to them? Dumas was sixty-six percent white and seventeen percent black. Yet the Afrocentrist, in his/her desperation to link themselves to nobility, will ignore the overwhelmingly WHITE blood in Dumas. You guys are a sick lot.
"Dumas' paternal grandparents were Marquis Alexandre-Antoine Davy de la Pailleterie, a French nobleman and Général commissaire in the Artillery in the colony of Saint-Domingue — now Haiti — and Marie-Cesette Dumas, an Afro-Caribbean Creole of mixed French and African ancestry" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexandre_Dumas,_p%C3%A8re#Life
Afrocentrism is a SERIOUS pathology.
AFRICAN DIASPORA!
MAAFA!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YOU white racist nowadays are become desperate!
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quote:Originally posted by Mike111: ^Anybody know what HE called himself?
He, as did his father, STRONGLY referred to themselves as, BLACK. This too, is in the history books. In fact, the sole reason Napoleon came down on his father so hard and drove him to poverty is due to his being a member of the black race.
See, this is the hidden problem with allowing whites to adopt black children which seems to be the fad today in Hollywood.
This Bullshit about "66%" white is a farce, or does anyone here know the mother's parental history which chances are, also had a percentage of black blood?
In reality, he look pretty much like African Americans such as Adam Clayton Powell or many mulattoes of the south.
Point is, once again we directly observe Europeans as the non-contributing, thieving cultural frauds they truly are.
Cosigned strongly, and ever than a bro' like Vin Diesel should have played such role, not a white European.
Things are getting way out of hand!
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quote:Originally posted by lamin: In terms of race quanta it should be noted that according to well-known geneticist Cavalli-Sforza Europeans are genetically 33.3% African in terms of genotype. This stands to reason given that Europeans are descendants of population groups that originated in Africa.
Thus the claim that a black-white biracial perosn would be 50% Black and 50% White would be erroneous--given the Cavalli-Sforza hypothesis. Dumas would then be much less than the 66% white as claimed above.
Whatever his genetic background it would be disingenuous to cast Depardieu as Dumas. In Haiti he would have been seen as a "mulatre"--not a "blanc". And with that bushy hair he might find it hard to get a taxi sometimes or enter "Europeans Only" restaurants in South Africa during the days of Apartheid.
Oh well, maybe Sidney Poitier(nice French name) could play Louis XIV or Napoleon one day.
True, and very well stated. None of those in opposition have any clue regarding the genetics of Dumas's mother. However, according to Europeans scholars, Europeans are mixed Africans, so the 66% is an unverifiable assumption.
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quote:Originally posted by Gigantic: You have turds lacking any tangible relationship, on any level, with the ancient Egyptians. Yet they call themselves descendants of those people. And your point is, sir? I think, what he called himself is, frankly, IRRELEVANT. This display of yours only shows the lengths Afronuts will go to out of desperation, to link themselves to history.
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: ^Anybody know what HE called himself?
See the joke here, what he called him self.....etc not relevant/ irrelevant.
LOL @ this clown.
WHO CAME UP WITH THAT WORD NEGRO?
Racist white folks, such as yourself think you can go all over the planet and dictate to anybody how they should look at them self.
EVEN AFTER ALL THE WICKEDNESS YOU HAVE DONE FOR 400+ years!
THIS IS HOW PATHOLOGICAL YOU FOLKS ARE!
Jungle Brothers Black Is Black lyrics
Now from A Tribe Called Quest And i'm here tonight with The Jungle Brothers And we're about to get into this thing called Black is Black is Black is Black Yeah, uh-huh! aah, baby! Said yeah! ah hah! Black is Black is Black is Black In America today, i have to regret to say Something, Something is not right And it deals with Black and White Tell me Mike G is it me? Nah, it's just society Filled with propagander, Huh! Why do we meander, Huh? In a zone with hate for peace All of this B.S must cease All i am is one Black man In a mighty big White hand Brother Brother, Sister Sister If you're Miss or if you're Mister Listen please to this fact Black is Black is Black is Black Black is Black is Black is Black Black is Black is Black is Black Way back when in '68 When brothers didn't have it great They fought back with civil rights That scarred the soul, it took the sight The common foe you plainly see On the streets or on T.V Segregation was the king Vietnam was full in swing Martin Luther had to shout Let's get out, get out, get out! The situation sort of changed But what really makes matters strange Is our foe is well disguised We don't know where our fate lies Still and all we cannot lack The fact that Black is Black is Black Black is Black is Black is Black Black is Black is Black is Black Judged by both my race and colour Don't you know we need each other? I need you and you need me And if not now you soon will see My light complexion has no meaning If you think so you're still dreaming Wake up, wake up, wake up, wake up There's no time for us to break up Black is Black not Blue or Purple Being Black is like a circle Round and round we all will go Where we end up i don't know Listen to me if you will Your fantasies will get you killed Reality is what is real Reality is Black is Black I try, try to tell my people We all are one, created equal Before we master, we must plan Is that so hard to understand? Today's the day we get together To try to change and make things better If not where will we be tomorrow? Drowning in the pool of sorrow Daylight shines but still few see That we must fight for unity In a picture that's fixed as Black and White Why's it both that have to fight? Uplift the race, uplift the race See my soul and not my face All for one and one for all Black is Black, That's right y'all
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quote:Originally posted by lamin: In terms of race quanta it should be noted that according to well-known geneticist Cavalli-Sforza Europeans are genetically 33.3% African in terms of genotype. This stands to reason given that Europeans are descendants of population groups that originated in Africa.
Thus the claim that a black-white biracial perosn would be 50% Black and 50% White would be erroneous--given the Cavalli-Sforza hypothesis. Dumas would then be much less than the 66% white as claimed above.
Whatever his genetic background it would be disingenuous to cast Depardieu as Dumas. In Haiti he would have been seen as a "mulatre"--not a "blanc". And with that bushy hair he might find it hard to get a taxi sometimes or enter "Europeans Only" restaurants in South Africa during the days of Apartheid.
Oh well, maybe Sidney Poitier(nice French name) could play Louis XIV or Napoleon one day.
True, and very well stated. None of those in opposition have any clue regarding the genetics of Dumas's mother. However, according to Europeans scholars, Europeans are mixed Africans, so the 66% is an unverifiable assumption.
Not just that, but even according to father of genetics as Gregor Mendel is called. It would take 9 generations (If I have this correct). For one not to be called a negro any longer.
Also the are the one who have created the one-drop rule. Now they run around, desperate, trying to redefine the meaning of the negro/ BLACK!
The man called himself a negro because he knew who he was (which is MOST OBVIOUS). Certainly in that AGE AND TIME!
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Quote: "Also the are the one who have created the one-drop rule. Now they run around, desperate, trying to redefine the meaning of the negro/ BLACK!"
YES!
Once Blacks came to their senses, and realized that Black was NOT a pejorative term as the lying had Whites said; but rather, a term of the vitality of life (a dead thing is pale, bloodless, White). It represented the highest level of Mans evolution as a creature on this Earth. It represented the highest levels of thought and physicality yet achieved by the Human creature. So yes, once Blacks realized what Black REALLY meant, they embraced it. And now the White man needs to come up with another lie to justify his unnatural existence - and his unnatural need to demean others - A sure sign of self hatred.
BTW - In natural cultures - unbrainwashed by the White man, or his Christian religion - White is the funeral color, that is the color of lifelessness and grief.Posts: 22721 | Registered: Oct 2005
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Y'all Negroes are the bomb! I can't even contest your non-sense. It is so way out there and ridiculous that it falls on its own without refutation. Y'all off the chain!
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What are you smoking? I seeeee a colored man. Better known as a black man in some parts of the world.
As a Haitian you should be familiar with that.
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You are correct, in part of course. Dumas was a man of color but, a black man, he was not. That is where you people get it twisted. Ethnic whites also are people of color, i.e. Italians, Spaniards, Portugese, etc...
The Haitian flag originally was Black and Red. Do you know why? Because we Haitians knew the difference between the Black and red (mulatto) race. If you look at Dumas' phoenotype, it is brutally evident that he resembled the whites and, more specifically, swarthy or ethnic whites.
The only argument you people have is the ridiculous "one drop" rule. Otherwise, there is nothing in that man that links him to his black side more than his white.
quote:Originally posted by xyyman: As a Haitian you should be familiar with that.
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That is correct. If I have a black grandmother I amo not black, there is more to it than that.
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^But Humas didn't just have a black grandmother, and from what I understand many people of such lineages white respecting their other lineages draw significance on their African one.
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quote:Originally posted by Hammer: That is correct. If I have a black grandmother I amo not black, there is more to it than that.
And if you had some mix-up mixed up half and half mechicanos blood like your grand-daughters...what would you be then? Posts: 7419 | From: North America | Registered: Mar 2009
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Like all peole of mexican descent who have a family that has been here for multi generations they are art of the majority anglo culture. Beyond that, even full blooded mexicans are doing that....white people with a tint.
Mr Dumas is much the same, there nis nothing african about him. For examle we know from his literature he did not have bone from ear to ear, nor is there any evidence that everyone called him "boy."
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quote:Originally posted by Hammer: Like all peole of mexican descent who have a family that has been here for multi generations they are art of the majority anglo culture. Beyond that, even full blooded mexicans are doing that....white people with a tint.
Mr Dumas is much the same, there nis nothing african about him. For examle we know from his literature he did not have bone from ear to ear, nor is there any evidence that everyone called him "boy."
Cracker, you are going over the edge...
Alexandre Dumas:
Although France has produced many great writers, none has been as widely read as Alexandre Dumas. His stories have been translated into almost a hundred languages, and have inspired more than 200 motion pictures.
Eventhough very successful in French higher society, Alexandre Dumas (and his father General Thomas Dumas) suffered immensely on the account of his race and the racism of the average so-called white Europeans.
In 1843 he wrote a short novel, Georges, that addressed some of the issues of race and the effects of colonialism. All his life he referred to himself as a negro.
He famously remarked to a so-called white man who insulted him about his mixed-race background with the following words: "My father was a mulatto, my grandfather was a Negro, and my great-grandfather a monkey. You see, Sir, my family starts where yours ends." Posts: 7419 | From: North America | Registered: Mar 2009
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That he suffered from racism does not make him culturally black. You just tried to change the subject. Dumas himself was not culturally black, period. If he had been none of that great literatue would have been written.
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quote:Originally posted by Hammer: That he suffered from racism does not make him culturally black. You just tried to change the subject. Dumas himself was not culturally black, period. If he had been none of that great literatue would have been written.
"All his life he self-identified as a negro."
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