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Afrocentric scholarship is a valid area of study. Giving factual account on African history from an African point of view if done systematically and backed with scientific evidence.
Let's explore who is giving Afrocentrism a bad name.
Culprit # 1
Francis Welsing the quack psychiatrist notorious for statements like the following;
"On both St. Valentine’s Day and Mother’s Day, the white male gives gifts of chocolate candy with nuts…. If his sweetheart ingests "chocolate with nuts," the white male can fantasize that he is genetically equal to the Black male…. Is it not also curious that when white males are young and vigorous, they attempt to master the large brown balls, but as they become older and wiser, they psychologically resign themselves to their inability to master the large brown balls? Their focus then shifts masochistically to hitting the tiny white golf balls in disgust and resignation — in full final realization of white genetic recessiveness."
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In our society, science has replaced religion as the main source of explanation about the natural world. Consequently, people as diverse as Madison Avenue hucksters and New Age gurus know that claiming a scientific basis for a belief will make it easier to sell a product. Similarly, a particular group of African-Americans, sometimes called the “melanin scholars” or the “KMWR [pronounced khemware, after Kemet, the name for Egypt] Scientific Consortium,” is providing a “scientific” rationale for Afrocentricity. Some of the better-known members of the group are: Leonard Jeffries, professor of African-American studies at the City University of New York; Wade Nobles, professor of AfricanAmerican studies at San Francisco State University; Frances Cress Welsing, a Washington, D.C., psychiatrist; Richard King, a Los Angeles psychiatrist; and Hunter Adams, a technician at Argonne National Laboratory and author of the Portland Baseline Science Essay. The group’s message is spread primarily by broadcasts on black radio stations of lectures given at annual melanin conferences. This method of dissemination makes documenting their assertions difficult; melanin scholars do not publish in journals or in easily accessible books.
The key idea of the melanin scholars is that melanin, a widely distributed pigment in the natural world, found in all humans, has a number of extraordinary properties that are best manifested in black people. They claim that melanin is a superconductor, that it absorbs all frequencies of the electromagnetic spectrum, that it can convert sound energy to light energy reversibly, and that it can function as a minicomputer to process information. According to the group, in addition to the skin, hair, and eyes, melanin is widely dispersed in the human body, for example, in twelve sites in the brain, in all the major organs, and in all muscles. The group claims that melanin is involved in the regulation of all psychological and physiological processes of the human body. They state that because of this people with high melanin levels have better muscular coordination (which makes them better athletes), are mentally superior, have unusual faculties, such as ESP, and are influenced by the magnetic fields of other humans and of the earth (Montgomery 1989). They attribute to melanin numerous other properties. Lectures about melanin are replete with scientific sounding terminology: substantia nigra, solitons, phonons, electromagnetic radiation, melanocyte, extrapyramidal tract, pineal gland, hypothalamus, and so on. This creates the impression that there is a scientific base for the claims.
The alleged properties of melanin, mostly unsupported, irrelevant, or distortions of the scientific literature, are then used to justify Afrocentric assertions. One of the most common is that humans evolved as blacks in Africa, and that whites are mutants (albinos, or melanin recessives) (Welsing 1989; King 1991). No one disputes that humans evolved from Africa, but the rest of the statement profoundly distorts genetics. Afrocentrics treat skin color as if it was governed only by one gene, and thus subject to absolute Mendelian dominance / recessiveness. If this were true, humans could only be black or white. However, skin color, like intelligence or height, is controlled by several genes, which explains why humans exhibit a wide color spectrum. Whites do not exhibit a total absence of melanin, but only a lesser amount. That is why whites can increase the amount of melanin in their skin by exposure to the sun. There is also no evidence that the amount of melanin in internal organs correlates with the amount of melanin in the skin. For example, the amount of melanin in the substantia nigra is normal in albinos (Siegel et al. 1989: 755).
Welsing (1989; 1991) uses the notion of whites as melanin recessives to explain white racism on a “scientific” basis. She professes that white men have to destroy black men in self defense because black men have the potential to destroy white men genetically. According to Welsing, a white child can only be produced by having a white mother and father. She claims that all other combinations can only produce black children, and that black men are considered dangerous because they could force white women to have sex. These ideas are easily acceptable in parts of the African-American community where there is broad support for theories that claim the existence of a conspiracy to destroy black males. The high rates of murder, of imprisonment, and of drug use, as well as the high rates of unemployment among black males, are cited as evidence for the conspiracy. The seemingly scientific explanation and academic credentials of some of the speakers are impressive to audiences uneducated in science. This appealing “scientific” explanation for white racism, in turn, makes other melanin claims more likely to be accepted. For example, Barnes (1990) argues that cocaine is part of the racist plot because melanin and cocaine are both alkaloids and have a high affinity for each other. Barnes also claims that blacks can test positive for cocaine even a year after its most recent use, because cocaine co-polymerizes into melanin. Melanin is not an alkaloid and there is no evidence whatsoever for melanin co-polymerizing with cocaine in vivo.
The idea that melanin is an essential component of humanity and that it confers many desirable powers is expanded by others into classical racism. Wade Nobles (1989) states that whites stopped evolving with the development of the central nervous system (CNS), but that blacks continued to evolve an essential melanic system (EMS). From this he develops an “equation": CNS + EMS = HB (human being) - that is, whites are not fully human. Others, such as Richard King (1991), express the same idea by their repeated use of the term hueman instead of “human,” with the connotation that only people with color are truly human. The idea that people to be discriminated against are not fully human has always been used by racists as a justification for their actions. It is sad to see it being used by people who have suffered so much from racism themselves.
The ideas of the melanin scholars are being spread in a much more insidious way. The melanin scholars are the theoreticians behind the Science Baseline Essay; its author, Hunter Adams, is one of the principal members of the group. It is interesting, however, that Adams does not use melanin as the basis for many of his examples. Maybe the claims for melanin are so radical that the association of the African-American Baseline Essays with melanin would hinder their adoption by school districts. However, many assertions in the Baseline Science Essay that seem incongruous or are asserted without any rationale can only be explained or put into context by referring to theories espoused by the “melanin scholars.” For example, the Essay claims that Egyptians in antiquity were black, that Egyptians were far in advance of other civilizations, and that Egypt was the origin of most scientific inventions. The explanation of the melanin scholars for these statements, unstated in the essay, is that melanin confers a mental advantage upon its possessors. Because melanin is the reason for their achievements, it is essential that Egyptians be black.
The claim in the Science Baseline Essay that Egyptians (i.e., blacks) have extrasensory powers is based on work by Frances Cress Welsing (1975). Welsing proposed that a correlation between high blood pressure and blackness of skin was due to the fact that melanin picks up energy vibrations from other people under stress. The darker the skin, the more melanin, and thus the more vibrations would supposedly be picked up. In turn, this higher sensitivity to vibrations of others would lead to higher blood pressure in the recipients. Welsing (1989) expanded this idea to explain why George Washington Carver was so successful in discovering useful products from plants. According to Welsing, Carver owed his success not to his master’s degree in chemistry, but to the fact that he was very dark. She states that Carver discovered the components of plants and their uses because the plants “talked to his melanin and told him what they were good for” during his early morning strolls in the woods. The consequences of a wide acceptance of this notion by AfricanAmerican schoolchildren could be quite damaging. Children could reject appeals from teachers to study hard for years in order to be prepared to become scientists. Black children could respond that in order to be a scientist all they need do is “Let my melanin pick up the vibes.”
Welsing (1989) also provides the explanation for another of the Baseline Essay’s disturbing statements. Adams states that the Dogon of Mali discovered a dwarf companion of Sirius, Sirius B, which is invisible to the naked eye. He also claims that they knew that it is extraordinarily dense and that it has an orbital period of 50 years (Adams 1990a: 60). Adams presents this theory without explanations or justifications, even though he is aware of Welsing’s explanation. This leaves the reader wondering how the Dogon were supposed to have accomplished these feats. According to Welsing, the Dogon’s melanin functions in a manner similar to an infrared telescope, and they were able to detect Sirius B through the melanin in their pineal glands. Welsing claims further that everything that happens on Earth is converted to energy and beamed up to Sirius B. She maintains that the high melanin content of black people enables them to tap into that information. She alleges that Greek oracles were black and that their melanin enabled them, as it does present-day blacks, to foresee the future.
Adams (1990a) claims that astrology is scientific, but again does not provide an explanation. He presented his rationale in lectures at the 1987 Melanin Conference (Adams 1990b). The ability of melanin to absorb and respond to magnetic fields is a key component of his explanation of astrology. Adams also claims “that movement [magnetic motion] is reflective of the movement of the sun, moon, planets, and stars. Thus, at birth, every living thing has a celestial serial number, or frequency power spectrum. This is the basis for astrology right here.”
The melanin scholars have managed to avoid public scrutiny because of the manner in which their message has been disseminated. Leonard Jeffries has aroused the most publicity because of his position in media intensive New York City (see, e.g., Tierney 1991) and his propensity for openly racist statements. However, the racist views of this group can potentially increase further the racial hostility in this country by providing a supposed “scientific” rationale that in one stroke explains white oppression and the genetic superiority of blacks. As the theoreticians behind the Portland Baseline Essays, they can increase scientific illiteracy among those poor urban children who are most in need of better science teaching. These children do not need pseudoscience traveling under the guise of multiculturalism.
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WOW 1010 - That was quite a mouthful. Unfortunately only a few of the issues that you raised can be treated on this forum. Let's look at them.
Quote: Melanin is not an alkaloid.
I am certainly not a chemist, but the chemical properties of the two would make me reluctant to make such a statement as you have.
Melanin is a class of compounds found in plants, animals, and protists, where it serves predominantly as a pigment. The class of pigments are derivatives of the amino acid tyrosine. Many melanins are insoluble salts and show affinity to water. The most common form of biological melanin is eumelanin, a brown-black polymer of dihydroxyindole carboxylic acid, and their reduced forms. Another common form of melanin is pheomelanin, a red-brown polymer of benzothiazine units largely responsible for red hair and freckles. The presence of melanin in the archaea and bacteria kingdoms is an issue of ongoing debate amongst researchers in the field. The increased production of melanin in human skin is called melanogenesis. It is stimulated by the DNA damages that are caused by UVB-radiation, and it leads to a delayed development of a tan. This melanogenesis-based tan takes more time to develop, but it is long lasting.
The photochemical properties of melanin make it an excellent photoprotectant. It absorbs harmful UV-radiation and transforms the energy into harmless amounts of heat through a process called "ultrafast internal conversion". This property enables melanin to dissipate more than 99.9% of the absorbed UV radiation as heat and it keeps the generation of free radicals at a minimum (see photoprotection). This prevents the indirect DNA damage which is responsible for the formation of malignant melanoma.
You implied that Whites were NOT Albinos.
This picture says that they ARE!
You implied that Egyptians were NOT Black.
This picture says that they WERE!
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quote:michael1010 Quote: It's time for you stupid motherf*cker to be debunked once and for all.
It's not quite that easy to debunk us Niggers after all - is it?
He, he, You are just the latest in a long line of Albinos who have come here with the same thought - they are mostly all gone - we're still here.Posts: 22721 | Registered: Oct 2005
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ha ha ha, too easy to refute, I'll even use your simplistic photo methods.
Tanning is a natural process, whereby the skin creates the brown-colored pigment called melanin, to protect it against the harmful UV rays in sunlight, but operates equally with artificial UV radiation.
Firstly, the UVC-radiation generates oxidative stress, which in turn oxidises pre-existing melanin. This leads to rapid darkening of already existing melanin. Secondly, there is an increased production of melanin (melanogenesis)
This is a white man before melanin production
This is him with more melanin produced after prolonged sun exposure
Before melanin production[b]
After
Notice the tan line, UV radiation does not penetrate clothing. Hence people with albinism can survive in Africa by simply covering and protecting their skin from radiation.
Albinism
The complete or partial absence of pigment in the skin, hair and eyes due to absence or[b] defect of an enzyme involved in the production of melanin.
Do you see the difference? One is able to produce melanin, the other is not. Any race can have albinism.
Albinism changes your pigment, not your race fool. For example, this boy is still Black, absent melanin.
now can your dumbass explain how most of the world's White people still have dark hair and eyes, if they are albino, or did you not know hair and eyes contain pigment as well?
c'mon Mike man, you should have predicted I was gonna say all of this. Don't you all believe people with melanin have telepathic and psychic powers, he he he.
BTW, I'm a Black man, a very dark one at that, and I'm married to a Black woman who suffers from albinism, so the bullsh1t has got to stop, enough is enough.
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quote:Originally posted by michael1010: ha ha ha, too easy to refute, I'll even use your simplistic photo methods.
Tanning is a natural process, whereby the skin creates the brown-colored pigment called melanin, to protect it against the harmful UV rays in sunlight, but operates equally with artificial UV radiation.
Firstly, the UVC-radiation generates oxidative stress, which in turn oxidises pre-existing melanin. This leads to rapid darkening of already existing melanin. Secondly, there is an increased production of melanin (melanogenesis)
This is a white man before melanin production
This is him with more melanin produced after prolonged sun exposure
Before melanin production[b]
After
Notice the tan line, UV radiation does not penetrate clothing. Hence people with albinism can survive in Africa by simply covering and protecting their skin from radiation.
Albinism
The complete or partial absence of pigment in the skin, hair and eyes due to absence or[b] defect of an enzyme involved in the production of melanin.
Do you see the difference? One is able to produce melanin, the other is not. Any race can have albinism.
Albinism changes your pigment, not your race fool. For example, this boy is still Black, absent melanin.
now can your dumbass explain how most of the world's White people still have dark hair and eyes, if they are albino, or did you not know hair and eyes contain pigment as well?
c'mon Mike man, you should have predicted I was gonna say all of this. Don't you all believe people with melanin have telepathic and psychic powers, he he he.
BTW, I'm a Black man, a very dark one at that, and I'm married to a Black woman who suffers from albinism, so the bullsh1t has got to stop, enough is enough.
good rebuttal, I wonder what Mike111 will say now.
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Albinism affects animals as well, the lion. The polar bear is naturally white, like White people. He is a predator, so naturally his covering should match his environment, otherwise he would be easily spotted in the snow. However the moose below suffers from albinism.
If it was your intention to post the above photos to indicate that albinism naturally occurs in cold adapted climates, then I beg to differ.
And if albinism is due to natural selection rather than a genetic defect, then they would no longer be born in Africa. Since the quack doctor thinks all Albinos were forced out of Africa, and interbred with eachother to produce White offspring.
Example of natural selection-- 2 Black people can reproduce a child like this.
Do you see this little innocent child above? Should she be murdered because of some ignorant ass superstitious, that you fools keep promoting, rather than spread educational facts about the disorder.
A tanned White woman, with her albino child who lacks the pigment needed to tan.
African people attending the trial of the Albino murderers, how can you fools exploit such a sensitive issue in our community. Look at the fear in this Black mother's eyes, her natural love for her child wants her to be protected from ignorance.
Mike, this picture says nothing. The father for some reason is not picture. What we have is a non sequitur, meaning your logic is flawed. You assume that because albinos have white skin that all people who have light skin must be related to albinos. We have a reality where light skin can come about from two different causes. But this is too complicated for your simple little racist mind to comprehend. You want it only to be due to albinism because albinism is called a "disease" and people with disease are "bad" and "defective" You truly are a black Nazi. So while you claim not to be religious and that you are "scientific" your racism is so important to you that you abandon evolutionary theory just to preserve this racism. So in fact you are religious. Your religion is racism.
So what if white people are albinos who the hell cares and what difference does it even make? Do you advise killing all albino babies? Apparently albinos are better adapted because even though a minority they took over the world. They also absorb vitamin D more quickly than our people dumbass so yes, they are better suited to northern hemispheres. Did you ever open your eyes and notice that animals in Northern climates look different than animals in tropical regions? So why is that? You say evolutionary adaptation so what happened to albinism explaining it? Oh what applies to animals doesn't apply to humans. Idiot.
This type of thinking comes out of concealing your self hate as you exposed with your "dumb nigger" theory. Do you think other races have this type of theory about themselves?
The worse lies are those we tell ourselves.
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More ignorance refuted. Below are 3 generations, a Black father, a daughter suffering from albinism, and her child back to the original pigmentation.
Hey dumbasses, explain why her child didn't come out light skinned?
A) Albinism affects animals as well, the lion. The polar bear is naturally white, like White people. He is a predator, so naturally his covering should match his environment, otherwise he would be easily spotted in the snow.
B) If it was your intention to post the above photos to indicate that albinism naturally occurs in cold adapted climates, then I beg to differ.
I am aware of natural adaptation white animals such as the polar bear. I am also aware of albinism which is different and also occurs in animals in climates both hot and cold.
You need to sort out what you're saying because your logic is off. Read back your comments. You have everything mixed up.
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michael1010 you do make a good point about the three generations. I prefer you of the mikes 111 stay losing in this thread
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A) Albinism affects animals as well, the lion. The polar bear is naturally white, like White people. He is a predator, so naturally his covering should match his environment, otherwise he would be easily spotted in the snow.
B) If it was your intention to post the above photos to indicate that albinism naturally occurs in cold adapted climates, then I beg to differ.
I am aware of natural adaptation white animals such as the polar bear. I am also aware of albinism which is different and also occurs in animals in climates both hot and cold.
You need to sort out what you're saying because your logic is off. Read back your comments. You have everything mixed up.
Maybe you don't understand what type of adaptation is taking place. He is not white because he is in a *cold* climate, he is white, because he is a *predator* and needs to blend into his environment which so happens to also be *white*. It has nothing to do with hot vs. cold. That's what his *fur* is for, to protect him from the weather. There are non predators that live in cold environments that have dark skin, like the moose I showed you. If it's because of climate, all animals would be completely white.
Below is an artic fox and wolf, they turn grey in the summer, and white in the winter, because it is also a predator.
Here you can see how he is able to blend into the environment when finding food is rare.
This is the same wolf when the snow has melted away.
This is the fox
This is what is meant by adaptation in the animal kingdom, they do what's necessary to ensure their survival.
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quote:michael1010 Quote: It's time for you stupid motherf*cker to be debunked once and for all.
It's not quite that easy to debunk us Niggers after all - is it?
He, he, You are just the latest in a long line of Albinos who have come here with the same thought - they are mostly all gone - we're still here.
Only a Black man with low self esteem would refer to himself as a nigger. That's why you're trying to overcompensate for it with all this bullsh1t you're trying to pass off as science.
I found this site from googling, and picked up a thread dated 2 years ago, with you talking the same exact sh1t you're babbling now. You have not evolved. You're stuck in a time warp.
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I identify them as White because of their race not their literal skin color. Just like Black people are not literally Black, but vary in shades from Olive to dark brown. What is your point.
I was not comparing the fur or skin color of Polar Bears and White people, I was pointing out that they are naturally light colors and not due to any form of genetic defect, such as albinism. I showed the difference between natural coloration rather it be fur or skin, and albinism, which is an unnatural color in both animals and humans.
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quote:michael1010 Quote: It's time for you stupid motherf*cker to be debunked once and for all.
It's not quite that easy to debunk us Niggers after all - is it?
He, he, You are just the latest in a long line of Albinos who have come here with the same thought - they are mostly all gone - we're still here.
Only a Black man with low self esteem would refer to himself as a nigger. That's why you're trying to overcompensate for it with all this bullsh1t you're trying to pass off as science.
I found this site from googling, and picked up a thread dated 2 years ago, with you talking the same exact sh1t you're babbling now. You have not evolved. You're stuck in a time warp.
I have been saying this all along, Mike111 has an inferiority complex becuase he is ashamed of African accomplisments, So he claims that blacks are the orginatores of every culture and that any light skinned population is the result of Albinos, without any proof...when I asked to provide proof that Whites are albino he responded that Da White Man be Lyin excuse yet he will use Da Lyin White man's sources whet it benefits him..Pathetic.
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Lion - People who make such silly arguments cannot be asked to reason - and I won't even try.
Can you imagine comparing a tan to actually having pigmented skin - somebody really needs to tell them that a tan fades - and if it's done too often, or too deeply, they will get skin cancer.
Albinism is fixed, two Albinos can only make another Albino. But when only one parent is an Albino, the child will have a color somewhere in between the two. And that color will be fixed until there is admixture with a different color person. That is why White people are no longer true Albinos, they retain the pigmentation from earlier admixture with Blacks.
Finally for "the Lion" Don't you ever look something up BEFORE opening your ignorance to the world?
Polar Bears have a "COLORLESS" Fur, with "BLACK" skin underneath it.
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Silly White people and their Ignorant Negro Servants - LEARN TO LOOK THINGS UP AND READ!!!!
The Skin Cancer Foundation
The Dangers of Tanning
Ever since Coco Chanel declared tanning "in" in the 1920s, a suntan was seen as symbol of health, youth and status. However, recent studies on the relationship between the sun's ultraviolet rays (UVR) and our skin are changing the way we view that "healthy" glow.
What is tanning?
Tanning is the skin's reaction to ultraviolet (UV) radiation. When skin is exposed to UV rays, cells called melanocytes produce the brown pigment melanin, which darkens the cells of the epidermis. This darkening of the skin cells is the skin's natural – if imperfect – defense against further damage from UV radiation.
Is tanning bad for you?
The sun's UV rays damage the DNA of the skin's epidermal cells, triggering enzymes that race to repair the damage. However, these enzymes do not always repair the DNA successfully, and all this unrepaired damage can lead to mutations that increase the risk of skin cancer. Also, repeated unprotected sun exposure can cause photoaging – wrinkles, sagging skin, and spots associated with sun damage.
Does all UV radiation harm my skin?
Scientists divide the solar UV spectrum into three wavelengths - UVA, UVB and UVC. Once, UVA and UVC were thought harmless, and only UVB was believed dangerous. UVC is still deemed no threat, since it is absorbed by the ozone layer. But UVA accounts for up to 95 percent of solar UVR reaching Earth. Though far less capable of causing sunburn than UVB, UVA is present during all daylight hours year round, while the amount of UVB in sunlight varies by season, location and time of day.
By the 1990's, scientists knew that UVA exacerbates the cancer-causing effects of UVB, and is the main wavelength behind photoaging. Recently, an Australian-U.S. study found that UVA may be more carcinogenic than UVB. It penetrates more deeply and causes more genetic damage in the skin cells (keratinocytes) where most skin cancers arise. The National Institutes of Health and the World Health Organization now designate both UVA and UVB as causes of cancer.
Doesn't the melanin acquired through tanning actually protect my skin?
Darker skin does offer greater protection than light skin against sunburn and skin cancer. However, that applies only to people with naturally darker skin. Tanning, like sunburns, attacks the skin's DNA, producing genetic defects that may cause skin cancer.
Isn't getting sunburned more dangerous than getting tan?
Both are dangerous, because both result from DNA damage to the skin cells. It is true that sunburn has been directly linked to melanoma – one blistering sunburn in childhood or adolescence, or five sunburns total over the course of one’s life, more than doubles a person's chances of developing melanoma later in life. It is usually thought that lifetime sun exposure is responsible for increased risk of squamous cell carcinoma, while both intense, intermittent sun exposure – the pattern that is traditionally linked to melanoma – and lifetime exposure are believed to be involved in the development of basal cell carcinoma. However, studies have also shown a marked increase in melanoma incidence in people who have developed either squamous cell carcinoma or basal cell carcinoma. Scientists are still trying to determine the exact exposure pattern behind the development of the different types of skin cancer, but it is safe to say that both burning and tanning play major roles in skin cancer.
I was going to post pictures of skin cancer, but those photos are too disturbing and heartbreaking. I don't wish that on anybody.
Sagging skin due to tanning. Posts: 22721 | Registered: Oct 2005
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It's true that dark skin provides some protection from UV rays and that blacks are less likely to get skin cancer than others, but it is dangerous -- and potentially deadly -- to assume that because you have dark skin you are immune.
"Pigmentation doesn't give you a free pass," Dr. Charles E. Crutchfield III, a dermatologist with African American skin cancer patients, told CNN recently. "It doesn't matter what color your skin is, everyone can get skin cancer."
Studies show that when blacks do get skin cancer, it is often discovered at a later stage and is more deadly. Musician Bob Marley, for instance, died of malignant melanoma, an aggressive skin cancer that spread to his organs.
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Albinism is fixed, two Albinos can only make another Albino. But when only one parent is an Albino, the child will have a color somewhere in between the two.
You ignorant ass fool, show me where the kids you posted above falls somewhere in between the color of his parents.
But I have to give you credit, you're one of those clever slick motherf*ckers, you posts a lot of factual information, like the data above about tanning, then throw in the bullsh*t, for good measure when you think no one is paying attention. Way to go Mike, you got 'em all fooled.
And when that bullsh*t doesn't work, resort to measures of distraction, by making bullsh*t claims about conspiracy and so-called White man's servants.
You stupid f*cking idiot, you are the biggest servant to the White man of them all. Only thing is you're too goddamn dumb to realize it. They don't argue with you, cuz they know your only teaching this bullsh*t to Africans, who they would rather remain ignorant about the natural sciences, because they know this is where the future is.
It's motherf*ckers like you and the punk ass Melanin King that keep Black people down and trodden in ignorance. White people pass you laughing, like look at the dumb ass superstitious fools, trying to pass of mythicism for actual science.
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quote:Originally posted by michael1010: It's true that dark skin provides some protection from UV rays and that blacks are less likely to get skin cancer than others, but it is dangerous -- and potentially deadly -- to assume that because you have dark skin you are immune.
"Pigmentation doesn't give you a free pass," Dr. Charles E. Crutchfield III, a dermatologist with African American skin cancer patients, told CNN recently. "It doesn't matter what color your skin is, everyone can get skin cancer."
Studies show that when blacks do get skin cancer, it is often discovered at a later stage and is more deadly. Musician Bob Marley, for instance, died of malignant melanoma, an aggressive skin cancer that spread to his organs.
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Damn Boy, must I teach you everything?
Bob Marley died of Acral lentiginous melanoma.
Acral lentiginous melanoma is a kind of lentiginous skin cancer
Acral lentiginous melanoma is observed on the palms, soles and under the nails. It occurs on non hair-bearing surfaces of the body which may or may not be exposed to sunlight. It is also found on mucous membranes. Unlike other forms of melanoma, acral lentiginous melanoma does not appear to be linked to sun exposure.
It is the most common form of melanoma diagnosed amongst Asian and Black ethnic groups. The average age at diagnosis is between sixty and seventy years. However, the melanoma can also occur in Caucasians and in young people.
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^BTW - acral lentiginous melanoma may form because of an infection.
In July 1977, Marley was found to have acral lentiginous melanoma, a form of malignant melanoma, in a wound reportedly picked up in a friendly football match.
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Black people are NATURAL to the Earth and the Universe. The Earth and the Universe are NATURAL to US!
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quote:Originally posted by michael1010: ha ha ha, too easy to refute, I'll even use your simplistic photo methods.
Tanning is a natural process, whereby the skin creates the brown-colored pigment called melanin, to protect it against the harmful UV rays in sunlight, but operates equally with artificial UV radiation.
Firstly, the UVC-radiation generates oxidative stress, which in turn oxidises pre-existing melanin. This leads to rapid darkening of already existing melanin. Secondly, there is an increased production of melanin (melanogenesis)
This is a white man before melanin production
This is him with more melanin produced after prolonged sun exposure
Before melanin production[b]
After
Notice the tan line, UV radiation does not penetrate clothing. Hence people with albinism can survive in Africa by simply covering and protecting their skin from radiation.
Albinism
The complete or partial absence of pigment in the skin, hair and eyes due to absence or[b] defect of an enzyme involved in the production of melanin.
Do you see the difference? One is able to produce melanin, the other is not. Any race can have albinism.
Albinism changes your pigment, not your race fool. For example, this boy is still Black, absent melanin.
now can your dumbass explain how most of the world's White people still have dark hair and eyes, if they are albino, or did you not know hair and eyes contain pigment as well?
c'mon Mike man, you should have predicted I was gonna say all of this. Don't you all believe people with melanin have telepathic and psychic powers, he he he.
BTW, I'm a Black man, a very dark one at that, and I'm married to a Black woman who suffers from albinism, so the bullsh1t has got to stop, enough is enough.
good rebuttal, I wonder what Mike111 will say now.
You are a fool! Even Albinos can tan. It isn't too healthy for them to do so, but some of them can. There is more than enough SCIENTIFIC melanin information posted on the site for you two to swiftly discover the error of your ways and perhaps, to build on your overly defective reading comprehension skills.
Don't allow your FEAR to sabotage logic and fundamental truths. YOur ancestors LIED to you about your so-called SUPERIORITY. Now the truth is before you so deal with it, and BUILD ON REALITY.
First, read CAREFULLY all medical symptoms associated with OCA1 (extreme), OCA2 (hair may blacken, may tan..), OCA3. Also read the documentation posted for MELANOMA, because young Crackers that tan today, will most probably develop this skin disease later in life.
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quote:Originally posted by Mike111: ^BTW - acral lentiginous melanoma may form because of an infection.
In July 1977, Marley was found to have acral lentiginous melanoma, a form of malignant melanoma, in a wound reportedly picked up in a friendly football match.
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Black people are NATURAL to the Earth and the Universe. The Earth and the Universe are NATURAL to US!
The children of albinos usually have normal pigmentation unless both parents are albino. Black people are not natural to the northern hemisphere. That's why they are minority populations in the north. There would be less than 1% black people in America if we weren't taken here by force. If you look at white people they have thinner noses than most black people and Asian noses are much smaller with small nostrils. That is obviously due to evolutionary adaptation to not take in cold air as easily as wide noses. Yes there are some thin nosed Africans. But why didn't the many wider nosed African albinos populate the North? answer: you are stupid and ignore science. If a polar bear's skin is black how did their fur become white? Evolutionary adaptation idiot. People don't have fur idiot. Animals in cold climates have all sorts of differences to animals in tropical climates. Why is that Mike?
If black people continue to live in the Northern hemisphere after thousands of years they will start to turn into white people.
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quote:Originally posted by michael1010: Albinism affects animals as well, the lion. The polar bear is naturally white, like White people. He is a predator, so naturally his covering should match his environment, otherwise he would be easily spotted in the snow. However the moose below suffers from albinism.
If it was your intention to post the above photos to indicate that albinism naturally occurs in cold adapted climates, then I beg to differ.
And if albinism is due to natural selection rather than a genetic defect, then they would no longer be born in Africa. Since the quack doctor thinks all Albinos were forced out of Africa, and interbred with eachother to produce White offspring.
Example of natural selection-- 2 Black people can reproduce a child like this.
Do you see this little innocent child above? Should she be murdered because of some ignorant ass superstitious, that you fools keep promoting, rather than spread educational facts about the disorder.
A tanned White woman, with her albino child who lacks the pigment needed to tan.
African people attending the trial of the Albino murderers, how can you fools exploit such a sensitive issue in our community. Look at the fear in this Black mother's eyes, her natural love for her child wants her to be protected from ignorance.
The problem you have here is a failure to properly research your subject(s), and a display of basic reading comprehension failure. Your attempt to associate Whites with Polar bears is flawed. While bears are totally acclimated to their environments, whites have not. Whites are subject to melanoma and skin cancer due to UV exposure in every region of the earth. This confirms a total lack of adaptation and no single region on earth as being NATIVE. No other human species on earth, including the mongrel has the skin cancer incident rate of whites.
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quote:Originally posted by Mike111: ^BTW - acral lentiginous melanoma may form because of an infection.
In July 1977, Marley was found to have acral lentiginous melanoma, a form of malignant melanoma, in a wound reportedly picked up in a friendly football match.
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Black people are NATURAL to the Earth and the Universe. The Earth and the Universe are NATURAL to US!
The children of albinos usually have normal pigmentation unless both parents are albino. Black people are not natural to the northern hemisphere. That's why they are minority populations in the north. There would be less than 1% black people in America if we weren't taken here by force. If you look at white people they have thinner noses than most black people and Asian noses are much smaller with small nostrils. That is obviously due to evolutionary adaptation to not take in cold air as easily as wide noses. Yes there are some thin nosed Africans. But why didn't the many wider nosed African albinos populate the North? answer: you are stupid and ignore science. If a polar bear's skin is black how did their fur become white? Evolutionary adaptation idiot. People don't have fur idiot. Animals in cold climates have all sorts of differences to animals in tropical climates. Why is that Mike?
If black people continue to live in the Northern hemisphere after thousands of years they will start to turn into white people.
I suggest you continue reading on the subject. Many of your assumptions are flawed and inaccurate. It does not take two albino parents to make an albino. At minimum, you require two parent who are CARRIERS of the OCA defect. This means, they may be children, grandchildren or great grand children of albinos, or carriers.
Secondly, thousands of years from now, black residing in the north will still remain pigmented. It's possible they may lighten to allow more UV to penetrate, but they would certainly not develop the defect DNA as in whites. This assumption is the result of incomplete research, or simply, basic denial.
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quote:Originally posted by michael1010: More ignorance refuted. Below are 3 generations, a Black father, a daughter suffering from albinism, and her child back to the original pigmentation.
Hey dumbasses, explain why her child didn't come out light skinned?
I realize you are a Cracker who is having a hard time accepting the lies you have been told are not true, and are actually the reverse of what you have been told. I understand it is difficult to go from being SUPERIOR to INFERIOR. That all you have been told was a weakly packaged "White Power" movement initiated to compensate for your being cast off thousands of years ago as Lepers and undesirables.
Do not fear. It all not lost. You can live a healthy and productive life without the unhealthy lies that weighted your back from the beginning of your life.
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quote:Originally posted by Mike111: ^BTW - acral lentiginous melanoma may form because of an infection.
In July 1977, Marley was found to have acral lentiginous melanoma, a form of malignant melanoma, in a wound reportedly picked up in a friendly football match.
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Black people are NATURAL to the Earth and the Universe. The Earth and the Universe are NATURAL to US!
The children of albinos usually have normal pigmentation unless both parents are albino. Black people are not natural to the northern hemisphere. That's why they are minority populations in the north. There would be less than 1% black people in America if we weren't taken here by force. If you look at white people they have thinner noses than most black people and Asian noses are much smaller with small nostrils. That is obviously due to evolutionary adaptation to not take in cold air as easily as wide noses. Yes there are some thin nosed Africans. But why didn't the many wider nosed African albinos populate the North? answer: you are stupid and ignore science. If a polar bear's skin is black how did their fur become white? Evolutionary adaptation idiot. People don't have fur idiot. Animals in cold climates have all sorts of differences to animals in tropical climates. Why is that Mike?
If black people continue to live in the Northern hemisphere after thousands of years they will start to turn into white people.
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MK - What do you make of this one?
This miss lion character has to be the most ignorant, most stupid, Negro EVER!
Fool Negro, no you know who the ORIGINAL settlers of the North Were? Did you know that they DID NOT CHANGE as lying Whites taught you?
I know you won't believe me, a Black man, because your Masta told you not to. So here is one of your Mastas own people to tell you.
quote:Originally posted by MelaninKing: The problem you have here is a failure to properly research your subject(s), and a display of basic reading comprehension failure. Your attempt to associate Whites with Polar bears is flawed. While bears are totally acclimated to their environments, whites have not. Whites are subject to melanoma and skin cancer due to UV exposure in every region of the earth. This confirms a total lack of adaptation and no single region on earth as being NATIVE. No other human species on earth, including the mongrel has the skin cancer incident rate of whites. [/QB]
this is a stupid ass statement.
Your ignorant ass has to look at cancer in general the. Black people get as many genetic diseases as anybody else, higher rates of certain types of more deadly cancers, diabetes, high blood pressure, therefore according to your idiocy we must not be adapted.
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I understand it is difficult to go from being SUPERIOR to INFERIOR. That all you have been told was a weakly packaged "White Power" movement initiated to compensate for your being cast off thousands of years ago as Lepers and undesirables.
quote:Originally posted by MelaninKing:
I truly feel for these people who had no choice in their genetic condition.
keepin it real
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^MK - I do realize that this miss lion character is probably (certainly) a White Troll fronting - But it serves as a good excuse to put the REAL ignorant Negros on notice.
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Various studies have shown that wearing burkas and veils and confining women to houses where they cannot get adequate exposure to sunlight is causing an epidemic and Vitamin D deficiency in Middle Eastern women of Muslim sects that require or enforce these customs, causing severe health problems for not only the women wearing these burkas and veils but also their children who can develop poorly in the womb of the mother because of Vitamin D deficiency and suffer various growth and development problems in early childhood because of vitamin D deficiency.
Recent studies also show vitamin D deficiency is also at epidemic proportions among African and Latino Americans.
African Americans, because of their darker skin pigmentation, are not able to easily absorb an adequate amounts of UV rays to produce vitamin D in their skin when they are living in northern climates. This is because the sun's rays in northern climates are too weak to effectively penetrate the protective layer of melanin in African American skin without longer exposure than what Caucasions need.
Studies have shown that African Americans and Latinos who live in northern nondesert areas of the U.S. and Europe have a vitamin D deficiency rate as high as 97% for African Americans and 90% for Latino Americans.
Native Americans and Latinos without Spanish ancestry are 100% lactose intolerant/milk allergic which means they are unable to absorb adequate or any vitamin D from milk which is the primary source of vitamin D is the American diet, the only other significant source comes from fish and sunlight.
Sunlight striking human skin produces vitamin D.....getting vitamin D from other sources besides sunshine is difficult without supplementation .
In some people malabsorbtion syndromes of the stomach do not allow them to absorb vitamin D from supplementation in food and milk the only way they can get it is from exposure to sunlight.
Various studies have shown that Muslim women who are required to wear burkas and veils in accordance with religious custom and live in northern countries such as Europe or the U.S. where sunlight is weak compared to desert and tropical areas of the world have an even higher risk or near 100% chance of developing severe vitamin D deficiency and even in their home countries they most likely suffer from vitamin D deficiency.
Evolution/natural selection has created the difference in skin pigmentation between northern Europeans and people from tropical and desert zones of the world.
Increased skin pigmentation is an advantage to people in tropical and desert zones of the world because the increased melanin which causes skin to be darker protects tropical and desert people from overexposure to ultraviolet rays of the sun and resulting possible damage caused by intense tropical and desert sunlight and the lighter skin pigmentation of northern Europeans has evolved to allow them to more easily absorb sunlight in northern zones where the sun is weak and cloud cover increased which allows them to easily produce adequate levels of vitamin D required for healthy functioning of many organ systems including the brain.
People with dark skin pigmentation require up to 6-30 times more sunlight exposure to produce adequate levels of vitamin D for normal body function than people of northern European descent or white people.
The problem occurs when people from tropical zones relocate or are relocated to northern countries they're darker skin pigmentation makes it more difficult for them to absorb enough ultraviolet rays from the sun to produce enough vitamin D for healthy functioning of various organ systems of the body.....which is now suspected of causing or is linked to various potentially severe health problems which have a higher incidence among African Americans and Latino Americans such as:
High blood pressure, cancer, peripheral artery disease, autoimmune diseases such as diabetes, periodontal disease (gum disease), poor brain function/impairment of thinking and memory loss, tuberculosis, multiple sclerosis, chronic pain syndromes, seasonal affective disorder (depression), schizophrenia, Parkinson's disease, Rickets in children (deformity and poor growth of long bones of the legs etc.) Osteomalacia, (thinning, weakness of bones) Osteoporosis. (loss of bone density)
These diseases which were once thought to have a higher incidence in African Americans and Latinos because of poor diet but are now suspected of being caused to a great extent from a lack of vitamin D in body systems from inability to absorb UV rays properly from weak northern sun.
These various diseases and disorders can be disabling, cause much pain and suffering and even be fatal.
We the undersigned agree with the sentiments of this author and wish for the World Health Organization and related governmental health bodies of the world to better educate men, women and children in the U.S., Europe and Muslim nations of the world about the dangers of vitamin D deficiency to women who wear or are required to wear burkas and veils and their children.
Also to educate African Americans, Latinos and other racial groups of darker skin color who live in northern nations of their high risk levels of having vitamin D deficiency so they can make appropriate lifestyle changes.
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quote:Originally posted by MelaninKing: The problem you have here is a failure to properly research your subject(s), and a display of basic reading comprehension failure. Your attempt to associate Whites with Polar bears is flawed. While bears are totally acclimated to their environments, whites have not. Whites are subject to melanoma and skin cancer due to UV exposure in every region of the earth. This confirms a total lack of adaptation and no single region on earth as being NATIVE. No other human species on earth, including the mongrel has the skin cancer incident rate of whites.
this is a stupid ass statement.
Your ignorant ass has to look at cancer in general the. Black people get as many genetic diseases as anybody else, higher rates of certain types of more deadly cancers, diabetes, high blood pressure, therefore according to your idiocy we must not be adapted. [/QB]
As I stated, you have a serious problem ingesting and comprehending data. I suggest you take remedial classes to correct this, then you would be asking far fewer stupid questions, and making far fewer incorrect assumptions.
Listen carefully; Skin cancer is a result of one being exposed to UV radiation for which your body is not adapted. In your native environment, if your genetics are intact, and uncompromised, the body's natural protection will suffice and no skin cancer will occur. Whites are susceptible to melanoma and skin cancer in every single region of the earth. The only reasonable conclusion is that which has been presented by Dr. Winters and many many scholars before him. That is; Whites are adapted to environmental conditions of a CAVE in northern Europe and evolved in the same manner as other cave dwellers such as, Albino bat or Albino catfish.
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Who eventually changed into white people. Or if we go by your theory
Black people with a skin condition. [/QB]
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Your previous post:
That's why they are minority populations in the north. There would be less than 1% black people in America if we weren't taken here by force. If you look at white people they have thinner noses than most black people and Asian noses are much smaller with small nostrils. That is obviously due to evolutionary adaptation to not take in cold air as easily as wide noses. Yes there are some thin nosed Africans. But why didn't the many wider nosed African albinos populate the North? answer: you are stupid and ignore science. If a polar bear's skin is black how did their fur become white? Evolutionary adaptation idiot. People don't have fur idiot. Animals in cold climates have all sorts of differences to animals in tropical climates. Why is that Mike?
If black people continue to live in the Northern hemisphere after thousands of years they will start to turn into white people.
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What happened here?
How quickly you change your story when faced with FACTS!
Listen carefully; Skin cancer is a result of one being exposed to UV radiation for which your body is not adapted. In your native environment, if your genetics are intact, and uncompromised, [/QB]
would you advise white people not to lay out on the beach so much?
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Listen carefully; Skin cancer is a result of one being exposed to UV radiation for which your body is not adapted. In your native environment, if your genetics are intact, and uncompromised,
would you advise white people not to lay out on the beach so much? [/QB]
No, that would be devastating to the free market system, particularly the skin lotion and sun screen markets. In this economy, we need all the sun burnt and peeling white people we can get. Remember, what starts as skin burn will develop into melanoma at a later date. This provides much needed business to the medical industry, hospitals and surgeons. Literally, tens of billions of dollars per year in the USA alone. Therefore, all cave people should sun bath as often and as frequently as possible!
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Listen carefully; Skin cancer is a result of one being exposed to UV radiation for which your body is not adapted. In your native environment, if your genetics are intact, and uncompromised,
would you advise white people not to lay out on the beach so much?
No, that would be devastating to the free market system, particularly the skin lotion and sun screen markets. In this economy, we need all the sun burnt and peeling white people we can get. Remember, what starts as skin burn will develop into melanoma at a later date. This provides much needed business to the medical industry, hospitals and surgeons. Literally, tens of billions of dollars per year in the USA alone. Therefore, all cave people should sun bath as often and as frequently as possible! [/QB]
would you say that black people are not really that well suited to Africa because they are so vulnerable to mosquitoes?
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So-called white people are not white like the polar bear or the snow fox.
Those animals clearly have white furs.
So-called white people are pink in their skin pigmentation. Why do you call them white?
Why you call them pink brown man?
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No Lioness. I am not colour blind read this then go look again more carefully at your so-called white skin:
Human skin color is quite variable around the world. It ranges from a very dark brown among some Africans, Australians, and Melanesians to a near yellowish pink among some Northern Europeans. There are no people who actually have true black, white, red, or yellow skin. These are commonly used color terms that do not reflect biological reality.
See Jablonski NG, Chaplin G. 2000. The evolution of skin coloration
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