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Knowing full well that this is the domain of Egmond Codfried, I tread here reluctantly, and hoping that Egmond will follow up with his own investigations, which will hopefully produce some artifacts.
But the rather ridiculous explanations for the "Coat of Arms" of the current Pope: Pope Benedict XVI, who is of German extraction, amused and bemused me no end. I therefore felt compelled to investigate further.
Example of explanation found at Wiki
The crowned blackamoor
A legend tells of Abraham of Freising travelling one night through the Poljanska dolina valley with his black servant. While walking through a dark thicket they came across a huge bear. Abraham stopped, terrified; the quick-thinking servant aimed an arrow from his bow and shot the bear dead. The bishop embraced him and proclaimed: "You have saved my life, servant. I shall reward you, so that future generations may know what a hero you were." He showed his gratitude by depicting his servant's head (caput aethiopis) in the bishopric's and the town's coat of arms. The "Freising blackamoor" was demonstrably first utilized in 1284 by Bishop Emicho of Wittelsbach. An inscription on the outer part of a 14th century seal reads SIGILLUM CIVITATIS LOK - seal of the town of Škofja Loka.
Even when they try to be serious about it, the one credulous explanation is nullified with a lie. See Saint Corbinian below.
* Prester John, a legendary (possibly semi-mythical) Christian priest and king whose realm shifted in folklore from India to, eventually, Ethiopia * Balthazar, one of the Magi, by some legends a Moor * Saint Maurice, a Roman-Egyptian martyr popular in Germany as a defender of the Faith and presumed to be a Moor * Saint Zeno, frequently shown as a Moor * Saint Sigismund, often confused historically with Saint Maurice * Saint Corbinian, founder of the Diocese of Freising, mistakenly thought to have been a Moor
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What makes all of this particularly hilarious is that Whites already know, and it has been widely disseminated, that the White inhabitants of Germany are recent arrivals (circa 300-600 A.D. ((look-up Germanic Peoples).
They also know that Blacks were the original inhabitants of Europe. And for the truly dense, there are German tapestries depicting the invading Whites attacking the castles of indigenous Blacks.
This one is entitled "Wild Men and Moors"
(Note who the "Wild Men" are)
Also note the Black King and Queen in the front window.
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So what it really comes down to, is the White Mans "Psyche". What is it about Black people, or non-Whites in general, which causes him to completely loose it! No matter the evidence, no matter the logic, when it comes to Black people, the White man becomes a babbling lying idiot, with the strangest concepts of reality.
Though it seems off-topic, I found this porcelain reveling as to the White mans perceptions relating to race.
THE FOUR QUARTERS OF THE GLOBE': FOUR MASSIVE CHELSEA PORCELAIN FIGURES EMBLEMATIC OF EUROPE, AMERICA, AFRICA AND ASIA Circa 1758-60.
Each modelled as a child standing on a rocky flower-encrusted base, Europe as a girl, wearing a six-pointed gilt diadem and a jewel on her forehead, draped in a pink-lined blue and gilt flowered cloak and turquoise-lined yellow dress with trailing oriental flowers and blue strapped sandals, her left arm raised and holding a loop, standing beside a cornucopia of fruit, a banner, a scroll-moulded silvered and gilt helmet, a red-bound gilt-edged book and a musical score inscribed Allelujah, a set-square and batons between her feet;
America as a blackamoor, wearing a feathered headdress, draped in a pale yellow-lined pink gilt-flowered cloak falling to his waist above a feathered chiton, a dark red and gilt scroll-moulded quiver suspended from his right shoulder on a turquoise strap, standing before a brown and black mottled crocodile curled about a tree-stump, two arrows between his feet;
This is interesting - America as a land of Blacks.
We know that in the Spanish viceroyalty of New Granada, corresponding mainly to modern Panama, Colombia, and Venezuela, the free black population in 1789 was 420,000, whereas African slaves numbered only 20,000.
From other sources we know that the Black populations of the Americas were very large (remember they WERE the original settlers).
But this depiction from 1758 suggests that the whole hemisphere was dominated by Blacks. (For the dim-wits, remember our knowledge of the people and populations, are provided by the White man). So there is undoubtedly much that remains hidden.
Africa as a blackamoor in elephant headdress, a string of red and a string of white beads around his neck, scantily draped in a turquoise-lined pink gilt-flowered cloak suspended from his right shoulder on a strap and fallen to his waist, holding a scorpion in his outstretched left hand, standing before a pink cornucopia filled with corn and entwined with two sinous serpents;
Asia as a girl with a wreath of fruit and flowers in her hair, in a pale-blue-lined pink cloak with purple flowered gilt branches over a pale-yellow-lined robe joined by a gilt jewelled clasp over a white underdress with a gilt flowered girdle, holding a fruiting branch and flowers in her extended right hand and a gilt-flowered and scroll-moulded flaming baluster urn in the crook of her left arm, fruiting and flowering branches at her feet (damages and restoration)
Asia as a White entity - This also is very interesting, and speaks to the White mans Psyche. Please note the reality.
China - 1,330,141,295 || Japan - 126,804,433 || Korea, North - 22,757,275 || Korea, South - 48,636,068 || Taiwan - 23,024,956.
So as we can see, the White Mans Psychosis concerning Blacks and other non-Whites is consistent.
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Since my entries that will follow, relate to Britain, here is a little background on Britain.
BBC article - Sunday, 30 June, 2002
English and Welsh are races apart
Gene scientists claim to have found proof that the Welsh are the "true" Britons. The research supports the idea that Celtic Britain underwent a form of ethnic cleansing by Anglo-Saxons invaders following the Roman withdrawal in the fifth century.
Genetic tests show clear differences between the Welsh and English It suggests that between 50% and 100% of the indigenous population of what was to become England was wiped out, with Offa's Dyke acting as a "genetic barrier" protecting those on the Welsh side. And the upheaval can be traced to this day through genetic differences between the English and the Welsh.
Academics at University College in London comparing a sample of men from the UK with those from an area of the Netherlands where the Anglo-Saxons are thought to have originated found the English subjects had genes that were almost identical.
But there were clear differences between the genetic make-up of Welsh people studied. The research team studied the Y-chromosome, which is passed almost unchanged from father to son, and looked for certain genetic markers.
Ethnic links: Many races share common bonds They chose seven market towns mentioned in the Domesday Book of 1086 and studied 313 male volunteers whose paternal grandfather had also lived in the area.
They then compared this with samples from Norway and with Friesland, now a northern province of the Netherlands. The English and Frisians studied had almost identical genetic make-up but the English and Welsh were very different. The researchers concluded the most likely explanation for this was a large-scale Anglo-Saxon invasion, which devastated the Celtic population of England, but did not reach Wales.
Dr Mark Thomas, of the Centre for Genetic Anthropology at UCL, said their findings suggested that a migration occurred within the last 2,500 years.
Genetic links It reinforced the idea that the Welsh were the true indigenous Britons. In April last year, research for a BBC programme on the Vikings revealed strong genetic links between the Welsh and Irish Celts and the Basques of northern Spain and south France.
It suggested a possible link between the Celts and Basques, dating back tens of thousands of years. The UCL research into the more recent Anglo-Saxon period suggested a migration on a huge scale. "It appears England is made up of an ethnic cleansing event from people coming across from the continent after the Romans left," he said.
Celtic Britons Archaeologists after the Second World War rejected the traditionally held view that an Anglo-Saxon invasion pushed the indigenous Celtic Britons to the fringes of Britain. Instead, they said the arrival of Anglo-Saxon culture could have come from trade or a small ruling elite. But the latest research by the UCL team, "using genetics as a history book", appears to support the original view of a large-scale invasion of England.
It suggests that the Welsh border was more of a genetic barrier to the Anglo-Saxon Y chromosome gene flow than the North Sea. Dr Thomas added: "Our findings completely overturn the modern view of the origins of the English."
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If everyone keeps the White Mans Psychosis concerning Blacks and other non-Whites in mind (as evidenced by the article above) when reading the posts that will follow, you will no doubt gain new knowledge.
For additional fun and amusement, some might want to read the explanations for The Drake Jewel 1586.
HAMILTON, JOHN, second LORD BEL- HAVEN (1656-1708), born 5 July 1656, was eldest son of Robert Hamilton (d. 1696), lord Presmennan, one of the judges of the court of session, by Marion Denholm, and elder brother of James Hamilton of Pencaitland, who was appointed a lord of justiciary in 1712 (BRUN- TON and HAIG, Senators of College of Justice, pp. 447, 493). John Hamilton married Mar- garet, daughter of Sir Robert Hamilton of Selverton Hill, and granddaughter of John Hamilton, first lord Belhaven (d. 1679), who in 1675 obtained a settlement of his title on his granddaughter's husband. He succeeded to the peerage in 1679.
In the Scotch parliament of 1681 he opposed the measures of the government, and during the debate on the test he spoke of it as failing Ho secure our religion against a popish or fanatical successor to the crown '(FOUNTAIN- HALL, ii. 307-8), a remark obviously aimed, though he disclaimed any such intention, at the Duke of York, afterwards James II, who was then the king's commissioner in Scot- land. As a punishment he was imprisoned
by order of the parliament in Edinburgh Castle, and there was some talk of indicting him for treason, when having ' on his knees at the bar craved pardon ' (Acts of Parliament of Scotland, viii. 247 a), he was restored to his seat in parliament. After the revolution of 1688 he was one of the members of the Scotch aristocracy who met in London in January 1689, and invited the Prince of Orange to assume the government and to summon a convention of the estates of Scot- land. In that convention he contributed to the settlement of the crown of Scotland on William and Mary.
In June 1689 he was appointed one of the commissioners for exer- cising the office of clerk of register. In the preceding April he had succeeded Andrew Fletcher of Saltoun (1655-1716) [q. v.] as captain of the troop of horse raised in Had- dingtonshire (ib. ix. 27 b}, and in command of it he was present at the battle of Killie- crankie, 27 July 1689, on which day he was appointed a member of the Scotch privy council.
In 1693 he was one of the farmers of the poll-tax in Scotland, and from 1695 to 1697 of the excise. He was a warm sup- porter of the Darien scheme, being one of the few subscribers of 1,000/. to the funds of the South African Company.
On the accession of Queen Anne, Belhaven was continued a member of the Scotch privy council. In the new Scotch parliament of 1703 he was a strenuous advocate of the Act of Security, and a spirited speech of his on it delivered in that year was printed for popular circulation. He was accused, to all appearance unjustly, of having taken part in the so-called 1 Scotch plot ' of the same year for a Stuart restoration. Belhaven was appointed a com- missioner of the Scotch treasury in the ministry of 1704, and was removed when it was dismissed in 1705.
He was a passionate opponent of the union. Another speech published at the time of delivery was made, 21 July 1705, in support of a resolution pro- testing against the nomination of a successor to Queen Anne to the crown of Scotland without limitations of its regal authority. On 2 Nov. 1706 he denounced the proposed union in a famous speech, the only specimen of Scotch parliamentary oratory which has found its way into English collections of rhetorical masterpieces.
Lord Marchmont replied that a short answer to this long and terrible speech would suffice. ' Behold he dreamed, but lo ! when he awoke, behold it w r as a dream' (DEFOE, Abstract of Proceedings, p. 44). Hence the title of 'The Vision' given to some contemporary doggerel verses ridi- culing Belhaven's speech, which, according to the catalogue of the British Museum, may have been written by Thomas Hamilton, sixth earl of Haddington [q. v.] ' The Vision ' was published as a broadsheet at Edinburgh, 1706 (reprinted in London the same year as by a person of quality), and with a reply to it, ' A Scot's Answer to a British Vision,' is given in the second series of ' Various Pieces of Scot- tish Fugitive Poetry ' (1823 ?).
Belhaven's Vision ' is also the title of a superior metrical piece warmly eulogising him (London, 1729), but probably published much earlier. The famous speech of 2 Nov. 1706, with another delivered by Belhaven on the 16th of the same month, was printed as a broadside at Edinburgh and reprinted in London in 'a pamphlet cried about the streets,' according to Defoe, who has given both speeches in his history of the union, and who attacked Belhaven in his ' Eeview ' for 12 March 1707.
Belhaven with other opponents of the union was imprisoned at Edinburgh, and in April 1708 brought in custody to London, as sus- pected of favouring the attempted French invasion [see FLETCHER, ANDREW, 1655- 1716]. He was examined by the English privy council and admitted to bail, dying a few days afterwards, 21 June 1708, of inflamma- tion of the brain, caused or aggravated, it has been surmised, by wounded pride (cf. BOYER, Appendix, p. 44, and A. CUNNINGHAM, Hist, of Great Britain, 1787, ii. 159). A eulogistic ' elegy ' on him in doggerel verse was printed as a broadside at Edinburgh soon after his death. Lockhart of Carnwath accuses him of want of fixity of principle, and charges him with making * long premeditated harangues,' but admits that he was a ' well-accomplished gentleman in most kinds of learning, well acquainted with the constitution of Scotland, and a skilful parliamentary strategist.'
Macky (Memoirs, p. 236) caricatures him as 'a rough, fat, black, noisy man, more like a butcher than a lord.' In the obituary notice of him in Boyer (/#.) he is described as of 'a good stature, well set, of a healthy constitution, black complexion and graceful manly pre- sence,' as having a quick conception, with a ready and masculine expression,'and as being steady in his principles both in politics and religion.'
There is a portrait of him, with a brief and valueless memoir in Pinkerton's ' Scottish Gallery,' 1799. Belhaven was the author of ' An Advice to the Farmers of East Lothian to Labour and Improve their Grounds.' One of its monitions is quoted in the ' Edinburgh Review ' for November 1814 (p. 87), art. 'Agriculture of Scotland.'
By his wife Belhaven left two sons, John, third lord, who was appointed governor of Barbadoes, but was drowned on his way out off the Lizard, 17 Nov. 1721, and James (d. 1732), an advocate.
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anguishofbeing - You typify the White Boy Psychosis that I spoke about. You started off fronting as a Black kid; and you never have produced anything other than the occasional silly comment.
I know you don't see anything wrong with that, but believe me, there IS something wrong with that.
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My apologies to the newbies, I neglected to establish the Ancient Black presence in Britain.
Cheddar Man
Note Here the Psychosis evident in the White mans evaluation.
TRENTON W. HOLLIDAY a1 and STEVEN E. CHURCHILL a2
Stature, body mass, and body proportions are evaluated for the Cheddar Man (Gough's Cave 1) skeleton. Like many of his Mesolithic contemporaries, Gough's Cave 1 evinces relatively short estimated stature (ca. 166.2 cm [5′ 5′]) and low body mass (ca. 66 kg [146 lbs]). In body shape, he is similar to recent Europeans for most proportional indices. He differs, however, from most recent Europeans in his high crural index and tibial length/trunk height indices. Thus, while Gough's Cave 1 is characterized by a total morphological pattern considered ‘cold-adapted’, these latter two traits may be interpreted as evidence of a large African role in the origins of anatomically modern Europeans.
Wetwang Woman 300 B.C.
Just for fun, ask a White person "Who built Stone Henge"
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The material that will soon follow is taken from:
The Scottish nation; or, The surnames, families, literature, honours, and biographical history of the people of Scotland (1877)
PREFACE.
The work which is now presented to the world assumes, by its comprehensively national title, that the various and diversified information it contains is so illustrative of the Scottish nation, and of the origin and constitution of modern Scottish society, as to justify the adoption for it of a designation so conspicuous. Of any other country, it is true, an account of its surnames, families, and honours, would cast little or no light over the constitution of the society existing therein. Such an account would probably tell next to nothing of the earlier races out of which society was formed, because, in the case of any other nation, whatever might elsewhere be found to illustrate that part of its history, few indications in the^names now borne by individuals or families, or in its titles of honour, will be found to mark the tribes or institutions whence they sprung, or to be otherwise identified with the commencement of its national unity. This is a result to be found in Scotland alone; not uniformly, indeed, nor always without admixture of doubt, but certainly in a greater degree than in any other kingdom or state.
Modern Scottish society, and Scottish nationality in its proper sense, may be said to have come into existence together. Hereditary monarchy, hereditary surnames, families, and honours, hitherto unknown among its peoples, were their common instruments for consolidation, for conservation, and for progress. To the Cumbrian, the Pict, the Scot, Norwegian, Dane, or Saxon, who, at various times and in various degrees, were spread over its soil, these distinctions were exceptional and comparatively unknown.
In the early part of the twelfth century, the greater part of the country now constituting Scotland was in a state little better than that of chaos, and worse than that of anarchy. A contemporary document of a solemn character describes the southern portion (and it may be held as equally true of the northern) as having till then been occupied rather than inhabited " by diverse tribes of diverse nations coming from diverse parts; of dissimilar language, features, and modes of living, not easily able to hold converse among themselves, practically Pagans rather than Christians, living more like irrational animals than as worthy of the name of a people,"0 and even deducting from this picture for the exaggerations of a Churchman, enough remains to confirm the foregoing remark. The arrival of a new people of polished manners, military discipline, and Christian zeal, by giving new institutions and, for a time, a new language to this incongruous mass, created a nation and a nationality, yet without a so-called revolution or even a change of dynasty. The new race, whose presence was so beneficially felt in Scotland, came through England, yet were not of it. They were the Normans,—a people of the same original stock as many of the tribes above referred to, but refined and instructed by familiarity with the institutions of the South.
This new order of things, however, might have attained to no permanence, or even if permanent, to no historic significance—at least in the sense which our title assumes—had not the silent but ceaseless immigration of the new race continued without interruption for nearly two centuries, in the course of which they identified their fortunes with those of a dynasty which, although sprung from an elder settlement of the population, was led by sympathy, education, and the necessities of their position, to cherish, enrich, and lean upon this new people for the preservation of their crown and prerogatives, and to cement their union by numerous family alliances. A revolution, which placed first one and then another family of the new race upon the throne of Scotland, completed the solidarity of the social union of races in Scotland, while it prevented fresh admixtures of foreign blood; and lastly and chiefly the practice of bestowing hereditary surnames and honours, and of holding all lands from the Crown, which obtained generally throughout
• Diversse tribus, diversarum nacionum, ex diversis partibus affluentes, regionem prefatum habitaverunt. Sed dispari gente et dissimuli lingua, et varia more viventes, haut facile (inter) sese consencientes, gentilitatem potius quam fidei cnltum tenuerunt. Jquos infelices et damnate habitaeionis, habitatores, more pecudnm irrationabiliter degentes, dignatus est Dominus, . . . visitare.— Tnqvisition by David Prince of Cumbria {circa 1116).
this period, and found a permanent and faithful record in charters and other public deeds, many of which are still in existence, insured to Scotr land the integrity and continuity of its social annals.
The surnames traceable to immigrant Norman chiefs, or to the lands bestowed upon their retainers, constitute by far the greater portion of those peculiar and pertaining to vast numbers of individuals forming modern Scottish society. Under those derived from lands, not a few Danish and Norwegian names are to be found, which, in like manner as those of Celtic and Norman origin referring to personal or local distinctives, are to be recognised by their composition; yet, while of this latter class, even in the remote North we find in the names Fraser, Grant, Cameron, and others, undeniable proofs, notwithstanding their present use of the Celtic tongue, of a Norman or French immigration, the composition of the southern population is singularly manifested when the distinctive of an individual of the more ancient lineage is there, as in the case of a Fleming or an Inglis, expressed by the simple name of Scott. Anaceount of the origin or of the original holders of these surnames of the forefathers of the present Scottish people, cannot fail to be highly interesting to all classes at the present day.
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Knowing that the White Mans Psychosis is ever present, I was not surprised to see that at the surname "Black" the author felt compelled to make the qualifying statement.
Black, a name, like Brown, White, &c., originally given, when surnames began to be first used, which in Scotland was not till about the beginning of the twelfth century, to persons in the middle or lower ranks who had no lands, from the colour of the visage or hair, or some peculiarity in he mental or personal character, and when the surname was not assumed from a trade or occupation, as Smith, Cook, Hunter, &c, or from the name of the father, with the addition of son, as Williamson, Johnson, Robertson,
So people named "Black" weren't named Black because they WERE Black, rather they were named "Black" because what, they had Black hair?
So what then are we to make of names like the following which clearly show that when skin color was NOT the descriptor, they clearly indicated so by adding a suffix.
BTW - How many ways can you bullsh1t BLACKBOURN (Black Born) or Blacke.
Anyway, knowing that surnames with Black in them would just slow the thread down with needless arguments, I have steered clear of them.
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CAMERON, Sik Ewen, or Evan, of Lochiel, a chief of the clan Cameron, distinguished for his chivalrous character, was born in February 1629. He was called by his followers Mac'onnuill Dhu, or the son of Black Donald, according to the custom of their race, after his father Donald, the chief who preceded him ; also Ewen Dhu, or Black Evan, from his own dark complexion. He was brought up at Inverary castle, under the guardianship of his kinsman the marquis of Argyle, under whose charge he was placed in his tenth year, being regarded as a hostage for the peaceable behaviour of his clan. Argyle endeavoured to instil into his mind the political principles of the covenanters, but it is said that he was converted to the side of the king by the exhortations of Sit Robert Spottiswood, formerly president of the Court of Session, who had been taken at the battle of Pliiliphaugh in September 1645, and was afterwards executed. At the age of eighteen ho quitted Inverary castle, with the declared intention of joining the marquis of Montrose, who, however, had previously disbanded his forces, and retired to the Continent. Although the royal cause seemed lost, Lochiel kept his clan in arms, and was able to protect his estate from the incursions of Cromwell's troops.
In 1652 he was one of the first to join the insurrection under the earl of Glencairn when that nobleman raised the royal standard in the Highlauds, and for nearly two years greatly distinguished himself at the head of his clan, in a seriea of encounters with General Lilburne, Colonel Morgan, and others of Cromwell's officers. In a sharp skirmish which took place between Lord Glencairn and Colonel Lilbnrne at Braemar, Lochiel gallantly maintained a pass with the defence of which he had been intrusted, and thereby saved Glencairn's army. His services were rewarded by a letter of thanks from Charles the Second, dated at Chantilly, the 8d of November, 1653.
In 1654 Lochiel continued to aid Glencairn in a fresh insurrection headed by him. Being himself opposed to Morgan, a brave and enterprising officer, Lochiel was often hard pressed, and sometimes nearly overpowered, but by his courage and presence of mind, he was always able to extricate himself from positions of the utmost difficulty and danger.
Morgan was now commander-in-chief of the parliamentary forces in Scotland, and he resolved to establish a garrison at Inverlochy, now Fort William, with the view of reducing the royalist clans in the neighbourhood. Lochiel lay in wait on a hill to the north of the fort, with thirty-eight of his clan, and observing a body of men about to land at a place called Achdalew, to cut down his woods, and to carry off his cattle, he proceeded along in a line with the vessels, under cover of the woods, until he saw the English soldiers disembark, one hundred and forty of them having axes, hatchets, and other working implements, while the rest remained under arms, to protect their operations. Notwithstanding the disparity of their forces, Lochiel at once gave orders to advance. He ordered his brother Allan to be bound to a tree, to prevent his taking any part in the conflict, and so not deprive his clan of a chief, should he himself be cut off. But Allan prevailed on a little boy, who was left to attend him, to unloose his, cords, and soon plunged into the thickest of the fight.
The Camerons rushed on the enemy, discharged against them a destructive shower of shot and arrows, and before they could recover from their surprise attacked them with their broadswords. The combat was long and obstinate. At last the English, retreating slowly, yet contesting every step of ground, and with their faces towards their assailants, were giving way when Lochiel sent two men and a piper round the flank, to sound the pibroch, raise the war-cry of the clan, and Are their muskets, as if a fresh party ol Camerons had arrived, hoping thereby to create a panic among the English soldiers. But this only rendered the latter more desperate, and instead of throwing down their arms they fought more resolutely than before, as they expected no quarter. They were, at length, completely borne down, and fled, pursued to the sea, when those who had been left in the boats received the fugitives, and firing at the Camerons drove them back, the chief himself advancing till he was chindeep in the water.
In the course of the struggle an English officer of great size and strength singled out Lochiel, and as they were pretty equally matched, they fought for some time apart from the general battle. Lochiel succeeded in knocking the sword out of his adversary's hand, but the Englishman closing on him, bore him to the ground, and fell upon him, the officer being uppermost. The latter was in the act of reaching for his sword, which lay near, but when extending his neck in the same direction, Lochiel, collecting his energies, grasped his enemy by the collar, and springing at his throat, seized it with his teeth, and gave so sure and effectual a bite that the officer died almost instantly. Of the English the number killed in this encounter exceeded that of Lochiel's men engaged in it, in the proportion of three to one, whilst only seven of the Camerons fell.
By this and similar attacks, now on the garri son at Inverlochy, now in conjunction with General Middleton, he harassed the forces of the Protector with general success. After the defeat of Middleton in July 1654, and his retreat to the continent, Lochiel was the only chief who remained opposed to Cromwell. The English, desirous to have peace with this formidable chief, made various overtures to him to that effect, but without success, until ho was informed that no express renunciation of the king's authority or oath to the existing government would be required of him, but only his word of honour to live in peace. An agreement on this basis took place about the end of that year. Reparation was made to Lochiel for the wood cut down by the garrison of Inverlochy, and to his tenants for all the losses they had sustained from the troops; while a full indemnity was granted for all acts of depredation and for all crimes committed by his men. All tithes, cess, and public burdens which had not been paid, were remitted to his clan.
In 1680 the last wolf known to have existed wild in Great Britain was slain by the hand of this brave and hardy chief in the district of Lochaber. In 1681, when the dnke of York, afterwards James the Second, was residing at Holyrood, as commissioner to the parliament of Scotland, Lochiel took a journey to Edinburgh to solicit the pardon of one of his clan, who, while in command of a party of Camerons, had fired by mistake on a party of Athole men, and killed several. The duke received him with great distinction, and granted his request. On this occasion he was knighted by the duke. After knighting him, the duke presented his sword to Sir Ewen, to keep as a remembrance.
In 1689 Sir Ewen joined the viscount of Dundee when he raised the standard of King James. General Mackay had, by the orders of King William, offered him a title and a considerable sum of money, apparently on the condition of his remaining neutral, but this offer he rejected with disdain. Though then far advanced in years, he distinguished himself with his usual licroism, and had a conspicuous share in the victory at Killiecrankie. Before the battle commenced he spoke to each of his men individually, and took their promise that they would conquer or die. On first seeing Dundee's force, General Mackay's army had raised a kind of shout, on which Lochiel exclaimed, " Gentlemen, the day is our own; I am the oldest commander in the army, and I have always observed something ominous or fatal in such a dull, heavy, feeble noise as that which the enemy has just made in their shout." Encouraged by this prognostication of victory, the Highlanders, with their usual impetuosity, rushed on the troops of Mackay, and in half an hour gained the victory.
In this battle Lochiel was attended by the son of his foster brother, who followed him everywhere like his shadow. Shortly after the commencement of the action the chief missed this faithful adherent from his side, and turning round to look for him, he saw him lying on his back in a dying state, with his breast pierced by an arrow. With his last breath he informed Sir Ewen that observing an enemy, a Highlander, in General Mackay's army, aiming at him with a bow and arrow from the rear, he sprang behind him to cover him, and thus, like his father, received in his own body the death-wound intended for hit chief.
After the battle of Killiecrankie, Sir Ewen Cameron retired to Lochaber, leaving the command of his men to his eldest son. He survived till the year 1719, when he died at the age of ninety. Notwithstanding all the battles and personal encounters in which be had been engaged, he never lost a drop of blood, or received a wound. He was thrice married, and had four son and eleven daughters.—Stewart's Sketches of the Highlanders and Highland Regiments.—Browne's History of the Highlands and Highland Clans.
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CAMERON, Donald, of Lochiel, grandson of the preceding, is celebrated in history for the important part he took in the rebellion of 1745 Though called young Lochiel by the Highlanders, from his father being still alive, he was at that period rather advanced in life. His father, John Cameron of Lochiel, eldest son of Sir Ewen, had joined the earl of Mar, when that nobleman raised the standard of the Chevalier in 1715, for which he was attainted. He died in Flanders in 1748.
Donald, his eldest son, succeeded, in consequence of the attainder of his father, to the estate, on the death of his grandfather, in 1719. He was styled captain of the clan Cameron, a title given to the leader or next in succession who commands a clan in absence, or during the minority, of the hereditary chief. Previous to the landing of Prince Charles in the Highlands, the Chevalier de St. George, sensible of the great influence which young Lochiel possessed among the clans, had opened a correspondence with him, and invested him with full powers to negotiate with his friends in Scotland, on the subject of his restoration. He was one of the seven chiefs and noblemen who, in 1740, signed a bond of association to restore the Chevalier. Upon the failure of the expedition of 1740 he had urged the prince to get another fitted out, but was against any attempt being made without foreign assistance. On the prince's landing, Lochiel was summoned with other chiefs to meet Charles at Borodale
As the prince had brought neither troops nor arms with him, Lochiel went to the interview determined to dissuade him from making any rash attempt. On his way he called at the house of his brother, John Cameron of Fassifern, who, on being told the object of his journey, advised him not to proceed to Borodale, but to impart his mind to tie prince by letter. "No," said Lochiel, "I ought at least to wait upon him, and give my reasons for declining to join him, which admit of no reply." " Brother," said Fassifern, " I know you better than you know yourself. If this prince once sets eyes upon you he will make you do whatever he pleases." Finding all his arguments ineffectual to prevail on Lochiel to take up arms in his cause, Charles declared his firm determination to take the field, how small soever might be the number of his adherents. " Lochiel," said he, " who, my father has often told me, was our firmest friend, may stay at home, and from the newspapers learn the fate of his prince." This appeal was irresistible. " No!" exclaimed Lochiel, " I'll share the fate of my prince, and so shall every man over whom nature or fortune has given me any power." Had Lochiel remained steadfast in his determination not to join the Pretender without foreign aid, the other chiefs would have also refused, but his yielding led to their collecting with their followers round the prince's standard, and thus he may he said to have been the chief cause of the insurrection that followed.
Although possessed of an estate which at that time yielded scarcely seven hundred pounds ayear, Lochiel brought fourteen hundred of his clan into the rebellion, and during his brief campaign he displayed much of the heroism and bravery of his grandfather, Sir Ewen Cameron. He acquired the respect of both parties, and obtained the name of the "gentle Lochiel." On all occasions he was honourably distinguished by his endeavours to mitigate the severities of war, and deter the insurgents from acts of vindictive violence, or insubordination.
As an example to the rest he even ordered one of his own men, caught in the act of theft, to be shot. He led on his clan with great gallantry at the battle of Preston, as he subsequently did at the battle of Falkirk. He accompanied Prince Charles in his march into England and during the retreat from Derby, and was severely wounded in both ankles at the battle of Culloden, when he was borne from the field by his two henchmen. After that disastrous defeat, ho skulked in his own country for about two months, and then sought an asylum among the Braes of Rannoch, where he was attended by Sir Stewart Thriepland, an Edinburgh physician, for the cure of his wounds.
He afterwards lurked for some time in Badenoch with Cluny MacPherson, and some other fugitives. Here in the course of his wanderings he was joined by the prince, though not without great risk and danger on both sides. They took up, for a time, their residence in a hut called the Cage, curiously constructed in a deep thicket on the side of a mountain called Benalder, under which name is included a great forest or chase, the property of Cluny. In this Cage they lived in tolerable security and enjoyed a rude plenty, which the prince had not hitherto known during his five months' wanderings.
On the 20th September 1746 two French frigates having appeared off the coast, Lochiel embarked along with the prince, as did nearly a hundred others of the relics of his party, and safely arrived in France, where the king gave him the command of the regiment of Albany, formed of his expatriated countrymen, with the power of naming his own officers. He was thus enabled, though his estate was forfeited, to live according to his rank. He died in 1748, and a tribute to his memory appeared in the Scots Magazine for December of that year. He married Anne, daughter of Sir James Campbell, fifth baronet of Auchinbreck, by whom he had three sons and four daughters. His eldest son Charles, who returned to Scotland in 1759, obtained the restoration of the family estate, which is now in the possession of his descendant.
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John Cameron, bishop of Glasgow and chancellor of the kingdom in the latter part of the reign of James I. was of the family of Lochiel. In 1422 he was official of Lothian, afterwards confessor and secretary to the earl of Douglas. In 1424 he was provost of Lincluden, and in the same year " Secretario Regis." In February 1425 we find him keeper of the great seal, and soon after keeper of the privy seal.
In 1426 he was elected bishop of Glasgow, and in 1428 he was appointed lord chancellor, an office which he held until the end of that reign. He built the great tower at the episcopal palace on which his coat armorial and ecclesiastical was placed.
He established two commissary courts, Hamilton and Campsie, the jurisdiction of which extended over parts of the counties of Dumbarton, Renfrew, Stirling, Lanark, and Ayr. He is said to have died on Christmas eve, 1436, but his name appears in a safe conduct (inserted in Rymer) dated 30th November 1437, and his successor in the tee of Glasgow was appointed in 1446.
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Charles Cameron, son of the Lochiel of the '45, was allowed to return to Britain, and lent his influence to the raising of the Lochiel men for the service of government. His son, Donald, was restored to his estates under the general act of amnesty of 1784. The eldest son of the latter, also named Donald, born 25th September 1796, he obtained a commission in the Guards in 1814, and fought at Waterloo. He retired from the army in 1882, and died 14th December 1858, leaving two sons and four daughters. His eldest son, Donald, succeeded as chief of the clan Cameron.
The family of Cameron of Fassifem, in Argyleshire, possesses a baronetcy of the United Kingdom, conferred in 1817 on Ewen Cameron of Fassifern, the father of Colonel John Cameron, of the 92d Highlanders, shot at the battle of Quatre Bras, 16th June 1815 while bravely leading on his men, for that officer's distinguished military services, with two Highlanders as supporters to his armorial bearings, and several heraldic distinctions indicating the particular services of Colonel Cameron. On the death of Sir Ewen in 1828, his second son, Sir Duncan, succeeded to the baronetcy.
General Sir Alexander Cameron, K.C.B., who died in 1850 at his seat of Inverralort house, Inverness-shire, was also an eminent officer, having first entered the army in 1799, when he served under the duke of York in Holland. He was the eighth son of Donald Cameron, Esq. of Murlugan, by the daughter of Alexander M'Donald, Esq. ot Achtrichtan, and was born in 1778. In 1800 he was with his regiment at Ferrol; in 1801, in Egypt, where he was severely wounded in the arm and side; in 1807 at Copenhagen; in 1808 at Vimicra; in that and the following year in Spain; in 1813 at Vittoria, till wounded; and in 1814 in Holland.
At Waterloo he was severely wounded in the throat. In 1828 he was appointed deputy-governor of St. Mawes, and in 1838 major-general in the army, in which latter year he was created a knight commander of the bath. In 1846 he became colonel of the 74th foot. He received a medal and two clasps for his services in command of the rifle brigade at Ciudad Rodrigo, Badajoz and Salamanca, and had a pension of five hundred pounds a-year in consideration of his long services and wounds. He married in 1818 the only daughter of C M'Donnell, Esq. of Barisdale.
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CAMERON, John, one of the most famous theologians of the seventeenth century, was born, at Glasgow, about 1579. He received his education in his native city, and after completing the ordinary course of study, he read lectures on the Greek language, that is, he taught Greek, in Glasgow university, for a year In 1600 he went to Bordeaux in France, and having made the acquaintance of two protestant clergymen of that city, one of whom was his countryman, Gilbert Primrose, lie was, through their recommendation, appointed a regent or professor in the then newly founded college of Bergerac, as teacher of the learned languages. He was so deeply skilled in the Greek especially, that one of his pupils, the learned Cappel, affirms that he spoke it with as much fluency and elegance as any other person could speak Latin. Soon after his settlement at Bergerac, he was, by the duke de Bouillon, appointed a professor of philosophy in the university of Sedan, where he remained for two years. He then resigned his professorship, and visited Paris; after which he returned to Bordeaux, with the intention of studying for the ministry.
In the beginning of 1604, Mr. Cameron was nominated one of the students of divinity who were maintained at the expense of the protestant church at Bordeaux, and who for the period of four years were at liberty to prosecute their studies in any protestant seminary. During this time he acted as tutor to the two sons of Calignon, chancellor of Navarre. After spending one year with them at Paris, they went to Geneva, where they remained the next two years, and thence removed to Heidelberg, in which city they resided for nearly twelve months. A series of theses, ' De triplici Dei cum Homine Foedere,' which he publicly maintained in this university, on 4th April 1608, have been priuted among his works. In the same year a vacancy having occurred in the protestant church at Bordeaux, by the dbath of one of the ministers, he was recalled to that town, and appointed colleague to his friend and countryman Primrose.
In 1617 two sea captains were at Bordeaux condemned to death for piracy; as they professed the reformed faith, Cameron attended them in their last moments, and afterwards published a letter entitled 'Constance, Foy, et Resolution a la mort des Capitaines Blanquet et Gaillard,' which by the parliament of Bordeaux, in its popish animosity to protestantism, was ordered to be burnt by the hands of the common executioner. In the following year he was appointed professor of divinity in the university of Saumur, the principal seminary of the French protectants, where he had for a colleague Dr. Duncan, another of his learned countrymen, who were then very numerous in France.
The high reputation which he had acquired by such of his works as had already been published, was now increased by his academical lectures. In 1620 he engaged in a formal disputation which lasted for four days, on the doctrines of grace and free will, with Daniel Tilenus, a native of Silesia, who had adopted the theological opinions of Arminius. An account of this Arnica Collatio was printed at Leyden in the subsequent year. The theological faculty of that university were not satisfied with some of Cameron's explanations ; and when Rivet, as dean of the faculty, communicated to him their dissent, he defended his opinions in a brief answer.
The civil wars in France in 1620 had the effect of dispersing nearly all the students of the university of Saumur, on which Cameron, with his family, removed to England. For a short time he read private lectures on divinity in London, and in 1622 he was appointed by King James principal of the university of Glasgow, in the room of Robert Boyd of Trochrig, removed in consequence of his firm adherence to presbyterianism. Cameron, on the other hand, was more inclined to favour episcopacy, and it seems that among other doctrines taught by him was the dangerous one of passive obedience,-which was not calculated to render him popular wifh the presbyterian students of those days. After teaching divinity for about a year, he resigned his situation. According to Calderwood, he " was so misliked by the people, that he was forced, not long after, to remove out of Glasco." [Hist. vol. vii. p. 667.] He returned to Sanmur, where he was only permitted to read private lectures.
The province of Anjou, in 1623, made an application to the national Synod of Charenton, that he might be reinstated in his professorship, but the king, in a letter to the commissioner to this synod, declared against his appointment to any ministerial or academical office in France, and the request was, in consequence, not granted; but on a representation by Cameron to the same synod, that he was then without employment, and destitute of any adequate means for the support of his family, the synod voted him a donation of a thousand livrcs. In the following year (1624) he was permitted to accept of the professorship.
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Mike you know very well that the lady was from Africa directly and non native.
Steve Bird Archaeologists have discovered that wealthy black Africans lived in Roman Britain in one of the country’s earliest examples of multiculturalism.
Scientific research techniques have established that a lavish grave containing a woman’s skeleton, an ivory bangle, perfume bottle, mirror and jewellery, belonged to a North African member of York’s high society in the 4th century.
Scientific analysis of isotopes from the teeth revealed that water she drank during her childhood had contained minerals likely to have been found in North Africa. http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=15;t=002630 You just throwing up her reconstruction leaves the un-suspecting that the Ivory Bangled lady was an original Brit..regardless of what an original Brit may have looked like.
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I usually don't post in these threads because I know nothing good can come of these strange and quite foolish discussions. I posted only because you seem to be the only voice of reason.
Was there Africans in Rome? Yes were they the Norm? No.
What needs to be understood is that the Ancients were not really caught up in skin color chauvinisim. We Know that there were Africans in Greece also but that does not mean the Majority were African. All this talk about Africans being Killed off by Invading Whites is just nonsense and should not be taken seriously. All you have to say is that How come these Blacks were killed off so easily even though they had all these advanced weaponry?
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Middle-ton, earl of, a title now extinct, in the peerage of Scotland, conferred in 1660, on John Middleton, the elder son of John Middleton of Caldhame, Kincardineshire, who was killed sitting in his chair, by Montrose's soldiers in 1645 He was a descendant of Malcolm the son of Kenneth, who got a charter from William the Lion of the lands of Middle- ton in that county, confirming a donation of King Duncan of the same, and in consequence assumed the name.
(This sentence moved up from the bottom of the article) (J/acfo/'s Memoirs, p. 238.) He is described as having been a black man, of middle stature, with a sanguine complexion.
The first earl was from his youth bred to arms. He at first "trailed a pike" in Hepburn's regiment in France, but in the civil wars of 1642, he entered into the service of the parliament of England as commander of a troop of horse, and lieutenant-general under Sir William Waller. He afterwards returned to Scotland, and got a command in General Leslie's army. At the battle of Philiphaugh, 13th September 1645, he contributed so much to the defeat of Montrose, that the Estates voted him a gift of 25,000 marks.
When Montrose, soon after, sat down before Inverness, General Middleton, with a small brigade, was detached from General Leslie's army and sent north to watch his motions. In the beginning of May 1646, he left Aberdeen, with a force of 600 horse and 800 foot, and arrived in the neighbourhood of Inverness, on the 9th of that month. Montrose immediately withdrew to a position at some distance from the town, but soon quitted it. Two regiments of cavalry, despatched by Middleton after him, attacked his rear, cut off some of his men, and captured two pieces of cannon, and part of his baggage. Retreating into Ross-shire, he was pursued by Middleton, who, as Montrose avoided an engagement, laid siege to the castle of the earl of Seaforth in the chanonry of Ross. After a siege of four days he took it, but immediately restored it to the countess of Seaforth, who was within the castle at the time.
Learning that the marquis of Huntly had seized upon Aberdeen, Middleton retraced his steps, and re-crossing the Spey, made him retire into Mar. He then returned to Aber- deen. When Montrose received orders from the king to dis- band his forces, Middleton was intrusted by the committee of Estates with ample powers to negotiate with him, and in order to discuss the conditions offered to the former, a con- ference was held between them on 22d July 1646, on a mea- dow, near the river Hay in Angus, where they " conferred for the space of two hours, there being none near them but one man for each of them to hold his horso." (Guthrifs Memoirs, p. 179). The conditions were that his followers, on making their submission, should be pardoned, and that Montrose and a few others of the principal leaders should leave the kingdom.
The following year, Middleton was occupied in pursuing the marquis of Huntly, who had appeared in arms for the king, through Glenmoriston, Badenoch, and other places in the north, till he was captured by Lieutenant-colonel Men- zies in Strathdon. Some Irish taken at the same time were shot by Middleton's orders in Strathbogie. In 1648, when the "Engagement" was formed for the rescue of the king, he was appointed lieutenant-general of the cavalry in the army ordered to be levied by the Scots Estates for that pur- pose. The levy being opposed by a large body of Covenant- ers and others at Mauchline in Ayrshire, on the 12th June, Middleton charged them, and put the whole to the rout, with the loss of eighty killed and a great many taken prisoners, among whom were some ministers.
He also dispersed some gatherings of the western Covenanters at Carsphairn and other places. He behaved with great gallantly at the battle of Preston in England, 17th August the same year, but his horse being shot under him, he was taken prisoner and sent to Newcastle. He soon made his escape, however, and with Lord Ogilvy attempted a rising in Athol in favour of the king. The party being dispersed by a force under the orders of General David Leslie, Middleton was allowed, on giving security to keep the peace, to return to his home.
When Charles II., in 1650, arrived in Scotland, General Middleton immediately repaired to him. Many small bodies of men were raised for the defence of the king in the north, and it was at one time proposed to have placed General Mid- dleton, who commanded a small division of the army, at the head of all the loyal forces that could be collected for the purpose of opposing Cromwell, but this was never earned into effect. For his conduct in support of the king the com- mission of the church summarily excommunicated him on the motion of James Guthrie, who pronounced the sentence from his pulpit at Stirling.
To compel the northern royalists to lay down their arms, General Leslie, by order of the committee of Estates, crossed the Tay on the 24th October with a force of 3,000 cavalry, with the intention of proceeding to Dundee and scouring An- gus. At this time Middleton was lying at Forfar, and, on hearing of Leslie's advance, he sent him a letter, enclosing a copy of a " bond and oath of engagement " which had been entered into by Huntly, Athol, Seaforth, and himself, with others, by which they pledged themselves not to lay down their arms without a general consent, and promised and swore that they would maintain the true religion as then estab- lished in Scotland, the national covenant, and the solemn league and covenant ; and defend the person of the king, his prerogative, greatness and authority, the privileges of parlia- ment, and the freedom of the subject.
Middleton stated that Leslie would perceive, from the terms of the document sent, that the only aim of himself and friends was to unite Scotsmen in defence of their common rights, and he proposed to join Leslie, and put himself under his command, as their objects appeared to be precisely the same. The negotiation was finally concluded on 4th November at Strathbogie, when a treaty was agreed to between Leslie and the chief royalists, by which the latter accepted an indemnity and laid down their arms.
On the 12th January 1651, Middleton was relaxed from his excommunication, and did penance in sackcloth in the parish church of Dundee. He commanded the horse in the royal army that marched into England on the 31st July; and at the battle of Worcester, 3d September, the chief resistance was made by him. He charged the enemy so vigorously that he forced them to recoil, but being severely wounded, he was taken prisoner after the battle, and sent to the Tower of London.
Cromwell was so incensed against him that he de- signed to get him tried for his life, as having formerly served in the parliamentary army, but he contrived to make his escape. After remaining for some time concealed in London he retired to France, and joined Charles II. at Paris. In 1653 he was sent home with a commission from the king, appointing him generalissimo of all the royal forces in Scot- land, and took the command of the troops at Dornoch.
Middleton soon found himself sorely pressed by General Monk, who had advanced into the Highlands with a large army. In an attempt to elude his pursuers he was surprised in a defile near Lochgarry, 26th July 1654, when his men were either slain or dispersed, and he himself escaped with great difficulty. After lurking for some months in the coun- try, Middleton again got over to the king, who was then at Cologne, and was excepted by Cromwell from pardon in his act of grace and indemnity the same year.
At the Restoration, he accompanied King Charles II. to England, and was created earl of Middleton and Lord Cler- mont and Fettercairn, by patent, dated 1st October 1660, to him and his heirs male, having the name and arms of Mid- dleton. He was also appointed commander-in-chief of the forces in Scotland, governor of Edinburgh castle, and lord high commissioner to the Scots parliament.
On the 31st December he arrived at Holvrood-house, having been escort- ed from Musselburgh by the nobility and gentry then in the capital, attended by a thousand horse. He was allowed 900 merks per day fur his table, and he lived in a style of great magnificence. He opened parliament 1st January 1661, with a splendour to which the Scots people had long been unac- customed. In this " terrible parliament," as it is well named by Kirkton, the king's prerogative was restored in its fullest extent, and a general act rescissory of the parliaments from 1633 was passed. Various other acts of a most unconstitu- tional nature also became law. On the rising of parliament in the following July, Middleton hastened to London, to lay an account of its proceedings before the king.
On his arrival at court, he assured his majesty and the Scottish privy coun- cil in London, that the majority of the Scottish nation de- sired the establishment of episcopacy, and it was accordingly agreed that " as the government of the state was monarchy, so that of the church should be prelacy." Middleton's ob- ject in thus recommending the establishment of the episcopal church in Scotland was that he might strengthen his own authority by that of the bishops, and thwart Lauderdale whom he hated, and who at that time was favourable to pres- byterianism.
He was again appointed lord high commissioner to the Scots parliament, which met 6th May 1662, and on 15th July following, he was nominated an extraordinary lord of session. In September of the same year, Middleton and the privy council made a progress through the west of Scotland and when at Glasgow, under the influence of drink, as Bur- net says, passed the act for depriving the covenanting minis- ters of their benefices, by which more than 200 were thrown out.
After proceeding through Ayrshire to Dumfries, they returned to Edinburgh. Having procured the passing of the famous act of billeting, by which Lauderdale and his friends were incapacitated, that unprincipled nobleman resolved upon his overthrow. He misrepresented all his actions to the king, and so prejudiced the royal mind against him that Middleton in 1663 was ordered up to London to give an account of his administration in Scotland. When the council met, Lauder- dale accused him of many miscarriages in his great office, and particularly of having accepted bribes from many of the presbyterians, to exclude them from the list of fines. Mid- dleton was defended by Clarendon, Archbishop Sheldon, and Monk, duke of Albemarle.
The Scottish prelates also wrote in his favour, and in vindication of his general policy. Their interposition, however, was in vain. He was declared guilty of arbitrary conduct as commissioner, and deprived of all his offices, to the great joy of the Scottish people, whom he had disgusted by the oppressive character of his measures, as well as by his open debauchery and intemperance, being, accord- ing to Burnet and Wodrow, most ostentatious in his vices. The former says that he was " perpetually drunk."
After his disgrace he retired to the friary near Guildford, to the house of a Scotsman named Dalmahoy, who had been gentleman of the horse to William duke of Hamilton, killed at the battle of Worcester, and who had married that noble- man's widow. There he built a bridge over the river which ran through Dalmahoy's estate, and was called Middleton's Bridge after him.
He afterwards, as a kind of decent exile, received the appointment of governor of Tangier, a seaport town of Fez In Africa, which made part of the dowry of the princess Catherine of Portugal, whom Charles II. married soon after the Restoration. He died there in 1673, having fallen in going down stairs, which in that hot climate pro- duced inflammation.
His only son, Charles, second and last earl of Middleton, was M.P. for Winchelsea, in the long parliament. He was bred in the court of Charles II., by whom he was appointed envoy extraordinary to the court of Vienna. On his return home he was constituted one of the principal secretaries of state for Scotland, 26th September 1682. On 11th July 1684 he was sworn a privy councillor of England, on the 15th of the same month was admitted an extraordinary lord of session in Scotland, and on 25th August same year appoint- ed one of the principal secretaries of state for England. His seat on the bench, however, he resigned in February 1686, in favour of his brother-in-law, the earl of Strathmore.
At the Revolution, though he had opposed the violent measures of King James, he adhered to him steadily. He refused all the offers made to him by King William, and af- ter being frequently imprisoned in England, he followed James to France, and was, in consequence, outlawed by the high court of justiciary, 23d July 1694, and forfeited by act of parliament, 2d July 1695.
Before the Revolution, we are told, he firmly stood in the gap, to stop the torrent of some priests who were driving King James to his ruin, and had so mean an opinion of converts that he used to say a new light never came into the house but by a crack in the tilting. Yet this man, who had withstood all the temptations of James' reign, and all the endeavours of that prince to bring him over, to the surprise of all who knew him declared himself a Roman Catholic on the king's death, and obtained the entire man- agement of the exiled court at St. Germains.
He had two sons and three daughters. Lady Elizabeth, the eld- est daughter, was the wife of Edward Drummond, son of James, earl of Perth, high-chancellor of Scotland. She was styled duchess of Perth, and died at Paris after 1773. The sons, Lord Clermont and the Hon. Charles Middleton, were taken at sea by Admiral Byng, coming with French troops to invade Scotland, in 1708, and committed to the Tower of London. They were soon released, when they returned to France
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WEDDERBURN, James, a poet of the 16th century, and an early friend of the Reformation, was born in Dundee about 1500. The eldest son of James Wedderburn, merchant in that town, lie was educated at St. Leonard's college, St. Andrews. and on leaving college he went to France, where he was for a time a merchant. On his return to Scotland he was instructed in the doctrines of the Reformed religion by James Ilewit, a Black friar at Dundee.
For the purpose of exposing the abuses and superstitions of the times, he composed some plays in the Scottish language, which, with Ii is poems and songs, had a good effect in stirring up the minds of many in favour of the new reli- gion. Three of his poems are inserted with his name in the Bannatyne Manuscript. Calderwood, in his ' Historie of the Kirk of Scotland,' (vol. i. p. 142,) says that he wrote a Tragedy on the be- heading of 'John the Baptist,' showing the cot* ruptions of the Romish church, which was acted at the West Port of Dundee, as was also a com- edy on the ' History of Dionysius the Tyrant,' in which he likewise attacked the Papists. He coun- terfeited so well "the conjuring of a ghaist," that the king, James V., was constrained to discharge his confessor, Friar Laing, who had practised the trick of conjuring up a ghost between Kinghorn and Kirkcaldy. Wedderburn was the principal author of the celebrated ' Buik of Godlie and Spir- itual Sangs, collected out of sundrie parts of Scrip- ture, with sundrie of uther Ballates, changed out of Profane Sangs for avoyding of Shine and Har- lotrie,' composed before 1549, in which it is sup- posed he was assisted by his two brothers, one of whom was vicar of Dundee.
In 1540 he was delated to the king for heresy, and letters of caption were ordered to be issued against him. In consequence he fled to France, and resided at Rouen or Dieppe till his death. While at the latter place, four Scottish merchants there, named John Meldrum, Henry Tod, John Mowat, and Gilbert Scott, accused him of heresy to the bishop of Rouen, but that prelate refused to interfere with him because they could prove no- thing against him. They insisted that he had been declared a heretic in Scotland, but the bishop desired them to send for the process, and if it were the case he would not be allowed to continue his residence at Dieppe. He is supposed to have died in 1564 or 1565. On his deathbed he said to his son, " We have been acting our part in the theatre ; you are to succeed ; see that you act your part faithfully." In the llarleian Catalogue the authorship of 'The Complaynt of Scotland,' published at St. Andrews in 1548, is ascribed to Wedderburn. It has also been attributed to Sir James Inglis and Sir David Lindsay.
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There was an ancient family named Blacader, or Blackadder, who possessed the lands of Tulliallan in Perthshire. The ruins of the old castle of Tulliallan, which formerly belonged to them, arc still standing. The modem castle of that name belongs to the baroness Keith, by marriage Countess Flahaut in France.
The original family was Blackadder of that ilk in Berwiikshire, who distinguished themselves in the Border feuds so early as the minority of James the Second, towards the middle of the fifteenth century. They received the lands whence they derived their name from that monarch, conferred as a reward for defending the eastern frontier against the incursions of the English. Beatrice, eldest daughter of one of the two portion of Robert Blackadder of Blackadder, married John Home, fourth of the seven sons of Sir David Home of Wedderburn, so well known in border song as " the seven spears of Wedderburn," and thereby got the estate of Blackadder.
This marriage, however, was brought about in a very violent manner on the part of the Homes, with the view of acquiring the lands of Blnckadder, having, by rapacity and fraud, appropriated to themselves, in course of time, the greater part of Berwickshire. The person on whom James the Second conferred the lands, and who from them took the surname of Blackadder, as a reward for military services, was named Cuthbert, styled the " Chieftain of the South." The royal grant is dated in 1452. On his expeditions against the English who crossed the borders for plunder he was accompanied by his seven sons who, from the darkness of their complexion, were called the " Black band of the Blackadders."
Writs of the Family, quoted in Crichton's Life of the Rev. John Blackadder,' When the country required to be put in a posture of defence against the preparations of Edward the Fourth, the Blackadders raised a body from among their kindred and retainers, the Elliots, Armstrongs, Johnstons, and other hardy and warlike borderers to the number of two hundred and seventeen men, all accoutred with jack and spear. Their castle, a fortress of some strength, was planted with artillery, and furnished with a garrison of twenty soldiers, Redpath's Border History."] Cuthbert and his sons joined the train of adventurers from Scotland, who had embarked in the wars of York and Lancaster, marshalling themselves under the banner of the Red Rose, and fighting for the earl of Richmond, afterwards Henry the Seventh, at Bosworth, where the father and three of his sons were left dead on the field.
Andrew, the eldest of the surviving brothers, succeeded to the barony of Blackadder. Robert and Patrick entered into holy orders. The former became prior of Coldingham, the latter was made dean sf Dunblane. The fourth brother, William, remained in England, where he obtained a title and opulent possessions. [ Writs of the Family of Blackadder.] In memorial of their services at Bosworth, King James granted the family permission to carry on their shield the roses of York and Lancaster. It was afterwards quartered with the house of Edmonstone; field, azure; cheveron, argent; upper left hand, gules; crest, a dexter hand holding a broadsword; motto, 1 Courage helps fortune/
Andrew Blackadder, the proprietor of the estate, married a daughter of the house of Johnston of Johnston, ancestor of the earls of Annandale, and had two sons, Robert and Patrick. Robert, the elder son, espoused Alison Douglas, fourth daughter of George, Master of Angus, and sister of Archibald, earl of Angus. He followed the standard of the Douglases at Flodden in 1513, and was slain with his father-in-law and two hundred gentlemen of the name of Douglas, on that disastrous field, leaving a widow and two daughters, Beatrix and Margaret, who, at the time, were mere children. put/i's Border History.]
Of Patrick, the younger son, described as a man of chivalry, who obtained by marriage the estate of Tulliallan in Perthshire, the succeeding paragraph gives an account. From the unprotected state of Robert's daughters, the Homes of Wedderburn formed the design of seizing the lands of Blackadder, and the way in which they succeeded in their villanous project is but too illustrative of the manners of those rude times to be omitted, especially as by it the patrimonial estate of the Blackadders was for ever wrested from the rightful owners. They began by cutting off all within their reach, whose affinity was dreaded as an hereditary obstacle. They attacked Robert Blackadder, the prior of Coldingham. at the village of Lamberton, while following the spoils of the chase, and assassinated him and six of his attendants. [I^eslie's Hist of Scotland, p. 389. History oj the Homes.]
His brother, the dean of Dunblane, shared the same fate. Various others were despatched in a similar manner. Patrick Blackadder, the cousin of the late prior endeavoured to obtain the priory of Coldingham; but on the active interference of the Homes, it was bestowed on William Douglas, brother of the earl of Angus. They now assaulted the castle of Blackadder, where the widow and her two young daughters resided. The garrison refused to surrender, but the Homes succeeded in obtaining possession of the fortress, and seized the widow and her children, compelling them to marriage by force.
Sir David Home of Wedderburn married the widow. The two daughters were contracted to his brothers, John and Robert, in 1518, and they were then only in their eighth year, they were confined, by John Home, in the castle of Blackadder till they came of age. [Douglas* Peerage, vol. ii. p. 174.] The estate, however, had been entailed in the male line, and should have passed to Sir John Blackadder, then baron of Tulliallan, the cousin and tutor of the ladies, as nearest heir.
But the Homes, who obtained the sanction of the Earl of Angus to marry his nieces, refused to quit possession of the lands, or deliver up the fortress. Sir John applied to the legislature for redress against them: but at that period there was no regular administration of justice in Scotland, and both parties had recourse to the sword. During the long minority of James the Fifth, they were involved in mutual hostilities. Sir John Blackadder was beheaded in March 1531 for the murder of James Inglis, abbot of Culross, "because, when he was absent at Edinburgh, the said abbot gave tack above his head to the Lord Erskine of the lands of Balgownie." Happening to meet with him on his return, he resolved to be avenged Both parties being of equal number, about sixteen horse, a rencontre took place, at the Lonhead of Rosyth, near Culross,' which ended in the slaughter of the abbot.
Patrick, archdeacon of Glasgow, succeeded his brother in Tulliallan. He held also, by the king's special commission, the wardenslup of Blackadder, to which he had been appointed, under warrant and command from the governor of Scotland. While archdeacon he had authority granted him by the Pope, in 1510, to visit all kirks and monasteries within the bounds of the see of Glasgow. He got also, in 1521, the priory of Coldingham, (which William Douglas had forcibly held,) by the King's seal, with consent of the duke of Albany, protector and governor of Scotland. In this office, ha was succeeded by his brother, Adam Blackadder, abbot of Dundrennan in Galloway; the first worth two thousand pounds, the latter one thousand pounds a-year. For bearing Sir Patrick's expenses in travelling to France to procure these appointments from Albany, who was there at the time, the said Adam bound himself to pay three thousand pounds; for which he gave in pledge two massy silver cups, till the debt was discharged.
Writs of the Family, quoted in Cricfitoris Life of the Rev. John Blackadder.] Sir Patrick renewed the process against the Homes, for the recovery of Blackadder. Under pretence of submitting the dispute to friends, to have all differences settled in an amicable way, the Homes appointed a day to meet Sir Patrick at Edinburgh. Thither accordingly he repaired, without suspicion of treachery, having received warrant of safe convoy from Archibald, earl of Angus, under the great seal, and accompanied by a Binall retinue of domestics, fifteen or sixteen horsemen, who usually rode in his train, but was clandestinely waylaid by a body of fifty horse, that lay in ambush near the Dean, within a mile of Edinburgh. Being well mounted, he made a gallant charge, and broke through the ambuscade, killing several with his own hand.
Overpowered with numbers he fled, taking the road towards the West Port, fiercely pursued. On approaching the city, he was surprised by a fresh troop of horse, secretly posted in a hollow, where St. Cuthbert's church now stands. These joining in the pursuit, he made the best of his speed to gain the entrance by the Nether Bow, or the Canongate; but before he could reach the ford of the Loch a party of foot sallied out from another place of concealment to intercept him. Finding himself beset on all hands, he ventured to take the North Loch, near to the place called Wallace's tower (properly Well-house tower) on the Castle brae, when his horse becoming embogt;ed, he and all his attendants were basely murdered. This was in the year 1526. Hume of Godscroft has recorded this affray, (Mist, of Mouse of Angus, vol. ii. p. 86,) but he makes the archdeacon the aggressor. This was the last attempt that the Blackadders made to obtain redress. The estate of Blackadder, of which they were thus fraudulently dispossessed, remained in the family of Home. Both llmuc and Buchanan, mistakenly, call Patrick archdeacon of Dunblane instead of Glasgow, and the brother of Robert heir of Blackadder, whereas he was his nephew.
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Moray had a chief command in the army under the earl of Mar. at Duplin, 12th August the same year, and was killed at the first alarm. Dying unmarried, twenty-three days after succeeding to the title, it devolved on his brother, John, third earl and last of the male line of his heroic family.
Though quite a youth at the time, he at once took arms in behalf of his youthful sovereign and cousin, David Brace, and surprised and defeated Baliol at Annan in December 1332. At the battle of Hallidon Hill, 19th July 1333, he command- ed the first division of the Scots army, supported by Lord Andrew Fraser and his two brothers, Simon and James. Escaping from the carnage of that dreadful day, he retired to France, where the young king, David II., and his queen, had been sent for security, but returned to Scotland the fol- lowing year, when he and the high steward were chosen joint regents of the kingdom.
He was successful in taking prisoner Comyn, earl of Athol, commander of the English forces in Scotland, but, on his swearing allegiance to David Bruce, he set him at liberty. Comyn, however, disregarding his oath, repaired to the English camp, and resumed his hostili- ties to his lawful sovereign. The earl of Moray next, in Au- gust 1335, with a chosen party, attacked, near Edinburgh, a body of foreign auxiliaries in the service of the English king, under Count Guy of Namur, and forced them to surrender, but escorting the count to the borders, he fell into an ambush and was made prisoner by William de Pressen, warden of Jedburgh.
He was confined first at Nottingham, and after- wards in the Tower of London. On 25th July 1340, he was removed to Windsor castle. He was allowed to go to France, and even to visit Scotland, which he did in 1341. The same year he was exchanged for the earl of Salisbury, a prisoner with the French. In February 1342 he invaded England, his sovereign David II. serving as a volunteer under him. At the battle of Durham, 17th October 1346, the earl of Moray, with Douglas, the knight of Liddesdale, commanded the right wing of the Scottish army, and was killed at the first attack of the English.
He married his cousin, Isabel, only daughter of Sir Alexander Stewart of Bonkyl, widow of Donald, earl of Mar, slain at Duplin, but had no issue.
On his death, his sister, Lady Agnes, countess of Dunbar and March, commonly called, from her dark complexion. " Black Agnes," and celebrated in history as the successful defender of the castle of Dunbar in 1337-8, against the earls of Salisbury and Arundel, succeeded to the vast estates of the earldom, and her husband, in her right, assumed the addi- tional title of earl of Moray. The countess died about 1369, leaving two sons, George, tenth earl of Dunbar and March, and John, who became earl of Moray in his mother's right.
The title of earl of Athol was conferred, about 1457, on Sir John Stewart of Balveny, the eldest son of Sir James Stewart, the Black Knight of Lorn, and the queen Joanna, dowager of James the First, who had chosen him for her second husband. The earl of Athol's father, the Black Knight of Lorn, was the third son of Sir John Stewart of Lorn and Innenneath, descended from Sir James Stewart, fourth son of Sir John Stewart of Bonkill, who was second son of Alexander, high steward of Scotland.
This earl of Athol was, with the earl of Crawford, appointed in 1475 to the command of the armament employed in suppressing the rebellion of the carl of Ross, on which occasion he assumed the motto, still borne by the Athol family, of " Forth fortune and fill the fetters," and had a grant of many lands that had belonged to that nobleman, on his resignation of the earldom of Ross and the lands of Kintyre and Knapdale. He also acted a prominent part in the attempt made in 1480 to reduce to obedience Angus of the Isles, the illegitimate son of the Lord of the Isles, the new title of the earl of Ross.
Some time after the battle of the Bloody Bay, fought in that year in the Isle of Mull between the Island factions, in which Angus was victorious, occurred the event known in history as the ' Raid of Athol.' The earl crossing privately to Islay had carried off the infant son of Angus, called Donald Pubh, or the Black, whom he placed in the hands of his maternal grandfather the earl of Argyle
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CULEN, king of Scotland, son of Indulf, succeeded to Odo, surnamed by the Celtic part of his subjects, Duff, or the Black, in 965, and after a reign of five years, was slain in battle by the Britons of Strathclyde.
Angus Dow Mackay, or Black Angus, as he was called.
Olave the Black, king of Man.
Magnus, king of Man, son of Olave the Black.
Godred the Black, king of Maa.
Edward the Black Prince.
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quote:Originally posted by Brada-Anansi: Mike you know very well that the lady was from Africa directly and non native.
Steve Bird Archaeologists have discovered that wealthy black Africans lived in Roman Britain in one of the country’s earliest examples of multiculturalism.
Scientific research techniques have established that a lavish grave containing a woman’s skeleton, an ivory bangle, perfume bottle, mirror and jewellery, belonged to a North African member of York’s high society in the 4th century.
Scientific analysis of isotopes from the teeth revealed that water she drank during her childhood had contained minerals likely to have been found in North Africa.
You just throwing up her reconstruction leaves the un-suspecting that the Ivory Bangled lady was an original Brit..regardless of what an original Brit may have looked like.
Brada-Anansi - I chided you in another thread about your lack of thoughtfulness. I see that you didn't take it to heart.
Nonetheless I will try to explain, please pay close attention.
Your confusion may stem from the conventions of dates denoted as B.C. and A.D.
In B.C. dates the Bigger number is the oldest. While in A.D. dates, the Bigger number is the Newest.
Therefore the Wetwang Woman's dating of 300 B.C. is actually BEFORE the Roman occupation of Britain.
The first Romans to campaign extensively in Britain were the forces of Julius Caesar in 55 and 54 BC, but the first significant conquest did not begin until AD 43, under Claudius. The Romans established a provincial government and steadily extended their control north, but were never able to exert firm control over Caledonia.
Following the conquest of the native Britons, a distinctive Romano-British culture emerged. Roman Britain was the part of the island of Great Britain controlled by the Roman Empire between AD 43 and about 410.
To explain further:
In England, chariot burials are characteristic of, and almost confined to, the Iron Age Arras culture associated with the Parisii tribe. Finds of such burials are rare, and the persons interred were presumably chieftains or other wealthy notables.
The Wetwang chariot burial of ca. 300 BC is an exception in that a woman was interred with the chariot. Some 21 British sites are known, spanning approximately four centuries, virtually all in the East Riding of Yorkshire. The Ferrybridge and Newbridge chariots are unusual in Britain as they are the only ones to be buried intact. The burial custom seems to have disappeared with the Roman occupation of Britain.
In Europe, chariot burial was mainly an Iron Age Celtic custom. A tomb from the 4th century BC was discovered in La Gorge-Meillet (Marne, France). The only Etruscan find dates to ca. 530 BC, and is preserved in pristine quality.
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Brada-Anansi quote: "Scientific analysis of isotopes from the teeth revealed that water she drank during her childhood had contained minerals likely to have been found in North Africa."
Brada-Anansi, I can only hope that when Dr. Hella Eckardt, or any other White scientist tells you something that SHOULD go against your common sense, you will take the time to check it out, instead of swallowing it, hook-line-and-sinker.
BTW - You did say you were Black - didn't you? Seems like you were just a little TOO quick to jump on that bullsh1t.
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King - I understand your confusion, and I will try to explain. To my credit, I did post an article in my first post that SHOULD have sufficed, but apparently it didn't.
Quote: The research supports the idea that Celtic Britain underwent a form of ethnic cleansing by Anglo-Saxons invaders following the Roman withdrawal in the fifth century.
Genetic tests show clear differences between the Welsh and English It suggests that between 50% and 100% of the indigenous population of what was to become England was wiped out.
So lets break it down.
A Mulatto has one White parent and one Black parent. But Mulatto's are easily identified as being of mixed race.
Next is a Quadroon - which is a racial category used to describe a person of mixed-race with one-fourth African and three-fourths Caucasian ancestry.
But Quadroon's are NOT easily identified as being of mixed race.
Next is a Octoroon - which refers to a person with one-eighth African ancestry; that is, someone with family heritage of one biracial grandparent, in other words, one African great-grandparent and seven Caucasian great-grandparents.
THERE IS NO WAY TO TELL A Octoroon FROM ANY OTHER WHITE PERSON!!!!
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So you see, in just three generations, a Black person became a White person.
Now lets add everything up.
Anglo-Saxons killed off many or most of the original Blacks. (I'm not saying that, the White scientists are saying that).
England's population reached an estimated 5.6 million in 1650, up from an estimated 2.6 million in 1500. Lets assume that half of them were Black people in 1500 - that makes 1.3 million Blacks.
Today, Britain's population is about 70 million people. That is a ratio of about 70 to 1.
As you might recall from our admixture example, it only takes a ratio of 4 to 1, to make a White person from a Black person.
The numbers say that White Britain's had the numbers to do that 17 times over what was needed - no wonder they are so pale!
Hope that clears it up for you.
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Thanks for the breakdown. I understand about the mixture of ethnicities and what Biracial, Octoroon etc mean.
It seems your right that England had people who had no relations to the Ancient Population, Can't dispute this. I just find it hard to believe these people were all Black and killed off. Your basically saying that these Blacks were too weak to protect themselves.
Mixing is something again I can see happening, But you would at least see a strain of African in some of the people. Genes have to be checked to see really if these people carry African Genetics. We also have the story of an Black women being Born from two White parents, meaning these parents had African genes in there blood line. Can we say the same for the English or the Welsh?
Mike you could do very well to respect Sub-Saharan Africans because these are the people who would of been in these areas, if your theory is true.
Peace
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King - As more and more Whites came into Europe, the ratio between Blacks and Whites kept expanding in the Whites favor.
If you have two Black women and twenty White men, it won't be long before her genes are lost in the White gene pool. That's just the way it works.
But if you had been paying attention to Egmonds posts, you would have seen that Black genes were still discernible until the 1800s.
On many occasions you have chided me for my harshness concerning White people. So lets play a little game, below are five pictures of Queen Charlotte, but in only one, does she look like a mixed race Black Woman, which she was. Can you explain that?
BTW - Charlotte is a Mulatto, her daughters are Quadroons. As you can see in the last picture, there is no way to tell her daughters from any other White Children.
Since I respect you I will play along and say the 1st pic has her looking mullato.
Also we should be able to establish IF Europeans have genes from Africans easily. Look at the Greeks, they have 25% E3b and they look like anyother Europeans we know they have African Genes. All I ask is be patient with people Mike. The TRUTH will come out regardless of the coverups. Insulting Whites is no way to show the TRUTH. White people and Black people are working together to fix wrongs done during the days of slavery. Hence the TRUTH about Greeks with 50% African and Asian genes. Things are changing and moving Nice.
Peace
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King - As you recall, I was moved to start this thread because of White mans lies concerning Black German royalty.
Here is some info on the mixed race Queen Charlotte:
Charlotte of Mecklenburg-Strelitz (19 May 1744 – 17 November 1818) was a Princess of Mecklenburg-Strelitz and Queen of the United Kingdom as the consort of King George III. She was also the Duchess of Brunswick-Lüneburg and electress of Hanover in the Holy Roman Empire until the promotion of her husband to King of Hanover on 12 October 1814, which made her Queen consort of Hanover.
Charlotte's father was Duke Charles Louis Frederick of Mecklenburg, Prince of Mirow (Germany).
Charlotte's mother was Princess Elizabeth Albertine of Saxe-Hildburghausen (1713–1761), daughter of Ernest Frederick I, Duke of Saxe-Hildburghausen (Germany).
Therefore the mixed race Charlotte was German royalty through and through.
Yet there were no Black German Kings?????
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Mike you were the one that posted the Wetwang Woman 300 B.C.with the profile of the Ivory bangled lady in tow just scroll up,the article stated Her grave the Ivory Bangled lady that is.. dates back to the second half of the 4th Century. The Ivory bangled lady was a completly different find, She was buried with items including jet and elephant ivory bracelets, earrings, beads and a blue glass jug. Article* Her sarcophagus, which was made of stone, a sign of immense wealth in Roman Britain, was discovered in 1901 in Bootham, York. The city was then a legionary fortress and civilian settlement called Eboracum, founded by the Romans in AD71. In another thread I complained to you that you are no great respecter of time but like to lump everything together..you didn't take heed ..so either you are gonna admit you were wrong make the necessary changes on your site or ignore it and yell white-mans bull sh!tt all day.
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^ LOL, go pester the white man to change all of his lying ass ****. Of all the contradicting data presented on this board about white lies and deceit and never see ya writing da white man to change his lying ****.
Tired of all you, "Play by white rules Negroes." Take a back seat to the Asians, serve then some food and STFU!
Mike, keep doing what you doing and ignore these ignorant fools.
quote:Originally posted by Brada-Anansi: Mike you were the one that posted the Wetwang Woman 300 B.C.with the profile of the Ivory bangled lady in tow just scroll up,the article stated Her grave the Ivory Bangled lady that is.. dates back to the second half of the 4th Century. The Ivory bangled lady was a completly different find, She was buried with items including jet and elephant ivory bracelets, earrings, beads and a blue glass jug. Article* Her sarcophagus, which was made of stone, a sign of immense wealth in Roman Britain, was discovered in 1901 in Bootham, York. The city was then a legionary fortress and civilian settlement called Eboracum, founded by the Romans in AD71. In another thread I complained to you that you are no great respecter of time but like to lump everything together..you didn't take heed ..so either you are gonna admit you were wrong make the necessary changes on your site or ignore it and yell white-mans bull sh!tt all day.
Brada-Anansi - I did mix up the photos of Wetwang and Bangle lady. And it's good that you let me know. But your original post said nothing about a mix-up. Rather, your original post implied that Africans in Europe were brought there by the Romans.
If that was indeed your point, please note the following.
As you can see, the Black Wetwang Woman's skull, especially in the nasal attributes, is quite different from the White Woman's skull.
But thanks for the heads up!
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quote:Originally posted by MelaninKing: ^ LOL, go pester the white man to change all of his lying ass ****. Of all the contradicting data presented on this board about white lies and deceit and never see ya writing da white man to change his lying ****.
Tired of all you, "Play by white rules Negroes." Take a back seat to the Asians, serve then some food and STFU!
Mike, keep doing what you doing and ignore these ignorant fools.
Ahhh, Brada im glad you are starting to see the true side of Afrocentrism as it has been hijacked by Afronazi's. No one can question or confront them with their lies...its like a sacrilidge to the Afronazi.
Good work Brada in exposing them...as Afronut would say...Kuddos.
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quote:Originally posted by Mike111: [QB] Knowing full well that this is the domain of Egmond Codfried, I tread here reluctantly, and hoping that Egmond will follow up with his own investigations, which will hopefully produce some artifacts.
But the rather ridiculous explanations for the "Coat of Arms" of the current Pope: Pope Benedict XVI, who is of German extraction, amused and bemused me no end. I therefore felt compelled to investigate further.
Mike 111 dear,
You have made my dream of pan-Africanism on this site come true. Is it me, or has something changed on this forum. Have some terrible destructive forces been driven out? Anyway, I know myself well; I’m more for the innovation part, the opening of doors, the breaking down of barriers, and love to have others go and search the minutiae. This research is not mine, it is ours and I’m most grateful for you coming about. We just pool our resources. Remember that you were very sceptic in your first responses and said you know nothing about the Modern Age.
But I have prevailed and you are today confirming my findings. Like Dorothy Blacks always had it, but our imagination was killed off, so we have a problem imagining these thrones and palaces filled with black lords and their black ladies. Europe was a Black Civilisation and blackness is everything we today perceive as whiteness. Jane Austen was Black and she wrote out of love for her Black nation, about to be obliterated, due to their own folly. Do we need a conference, DNA analysis and skull measurements to decide whether Jane Austen was Black? Hell, no! She has all these Black protagonists in her works, she discusses problems related to Blacks who live among whites, she discusses race-mixing, skin-bleaching, mulattoes and pale skinned Blacks who choose dark skinned wives to inject some health, beauty and class into their off-spring. Then she herself is described as dark brown with bright hazel eyes. As she gives the sallow skinned Blacks equal opportunity with the jet blacks, she confirms that blackness is not decided by how black you look, but how black oriented your identity is.
So it’s silly and contra productive for Blacks discriminating among them selves who is Blacker. Why, coming from Surinam, I observe the house nigger today might be pitch-black and just brownnosing away like there is no tomorrow. And again coming from Surinam and not the US, I can say we are a very much mixed nation with African, Indian, Chinese, Indonesian blood in one person.
A word of warning.
The image with the black king and black queen at the window of their castle is fake. Just look and compare the style within the same image. The people who make up this fake stuff are harming Blacks.
How to identify historical Blacks?
We identify people as black from their identity, their description and finally the images which might have survived. Blacks are used to mixed families where some members are darker then others, or show stronger classical African features, or straighter hair etc. These Blacks freely intermarry and any combination of looks can come out. Charlotte-Sophie of Mecklenburg’s brothers, from the images I find on the internet, do not seem to have classical African looks, but these could be altered portraits, while the truly African ones have been destroyed or kept hidden. Her niece was identified as the woman with a thousand faces, because every portrait shows a different woman. I understand that they amended her African face for propagandistic reasons, and every artist would come up with his own ideal. The true African portraits are lost or more likely kept hidden. We never get to see the mother of Charlotte Sophie, she is not fit to be seen; I have surmised! Her father shows some lips. She was described as a ‘true mulatto face’ and ‘brown,’ but not that she was a mulatto. The Blackness was in all her ancestors, but in her case, the classical African typed prevailed, she showed ‘pure blood.,’ I have learned from Jane Austen. Her beauty was ‘peculiar,’ because she looked African.
The white response
There is no way you can present your research to them and have them acting in a rational way. They freak out at the idea of having been worshipping a black woman like Jane Austen. You cannot get them to read a line from Austen and discuss it with you. They turn red in the face; because they cannot tell you in your black face how sickened they are by the idea of a black Jane Austen. From the thirty something scholarly works on Jane Austen I have read so far, not one takes notice of her black, brown, very brown and sallow heroines, or the race mixing going on in Emma and Mansfield Park too.
Fanny Price is a mulatto as her mother greatly offended her family by marrying a man 'without education, fortune and connection' and white too. Fanny herself is scolded by an aunt 'to remember who she is and what she is.' And the rich and accomplished, gentlemanly Mr. Crawford, the centre of this novel, is of course ‘absolutely plain, black and plain.’
Thank you, and god bless
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quote:Originally posted by Just call me Jari: Ahhh, Brada im glad you are starting to see the true side of Afrocentrism as it has been hijacked by Afronazi's. No one can question or confront them with their lies...its like a sacrilidge to the Afronazi.
Good work Brada in exposing them...as Afronut would say...Kuddos.
Brada-Anansi - Is that what you were doing?
If so, it didn't really work very well did it?
But the subject does seem to bring out all the White Boys who were fronting Black.
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I cant speak for Brada but as I said Im glad he is not bowing to the two resident Afronazi's, Im glad he has his own mind and is man enough to show your blatant lies and fabrications. Most folks excapt Afronut, Anuish/Akoben and me just take your lies for face value.
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quote:Originally posted by Just call me Jari: I cant speak for Brada but as I said Im glad he is not bowing to the two resident Afronazi's, Im glad he has his own mind and is man enough to show your blatant lies and fabrications. Most folks excapt Afronut, Anuish/Akoben and me just take your lies for face value.
Come, come White Boy. Above you is EVIDENCE!!
If you wish to refute MY evidence, you need to produce YOUR counter EVIDENCE!!
What, the White boy says it's so, therefore it IS so.
That is what we call "White Boy Dreaming"
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quote:Originally posted by Just call me Jari: I cant speak for Brada but as I said Im glad he is not bowing to the two resident Afronazi's, Im glad he has his own mind and is man enough to show your blatant lies and fabrications. Most folks excapt Afronut, Anuish/Akoben and me just take your lies for face value.
Come, come White Boy. Above you is EVIDENCE!!
If you wish to refute MY evidence, you need to produce YOUR counter EVIDENCE!!
What, the White boy says it's so, therefore it IS so.
That is what we call "White Boy Dreaming"
Mike YOU HAVE NO EVIDENCE...LOL..Just picture spams buddy. Also it seems you ran away from here
You are a worthless fly, you don't scare me you Afronazi. And keep calling me white boy, it seems Afronazi's love to pick on white people, but Im a black man who has been made blacker this summer by over exposure to the Sun(meaning I have plenty of Melanin). Im a black man standing up to you you little coward, quit the Childish High School "You act White" non sense already and grow up...
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The image with the black king and black queen at the window of their castle is fake. Just look and compare the style within the same image. The people who make up this fake stuff are harming Blacks.
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Egmond - That picture was taken from Wikimedia Commons, Category: Wild man in art.
I have NEVER known of White people faking a historical artifact by ADDING Black people.
They REMOVE Black people!!!
But if you have some evidence of forgery, please let me know.
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: Egmond quote: A word of warning.
The image with the black king and black queen at the window of their castle is fake. Just look and compare the style within the same image. The people who make up this fake stuff are harming Blacks.
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Egmond - That picture was taken from Wikimedia Commons, Category: Wild man in art.
I have NEVER known of White people faking a historical artifact by ADDING Black people.
They REMOVE Black people!!!
But if you have some evidence of forgery, please let me know.
Looking at this detail, and information, I may have to retract. Provenance not stated. But I do not care for the hair treatment on the queen, compared to the other hair-do's and this would be a wholly unprecedented image, as far as I know.
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Egmond - You have to remember that the point of the tapestry was NOT to glorify the Black original nobility of Germany.
It was to show what they (the Whites) had to go through in order to conquer the lands, and to bring gifts and pay homage to what appears to be a depiction of a White Mary and Jesus.
The full tapestry
Wild Men and Moors, Warp: linen Wefts: wool; tapestry weave, 100 x 490 cm, Date - about 1400 A.D.
Source - Charles Potter Kling Fund, Museum of Fine Arts, Boston, Boston, Massachusetts, USA
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^Same person who appointed you mouthpiece of What: Manners, niceness, whatever you think it is.
BTW - where is all of that historical info. that you previously claimed to have researched. So far all I have seen is these pop-in chidings. If you want to play Mama, have children.
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quote:Originally posted by Mike111: ^Same person who appointed you mouthpiece of What: Manners, niceness, whatever you think it is.
BTW - where is all of that historical info. that you previously claimed to have researched. So far all I have seen is these pop-in chidings. If you want to play Mama, have children.
There is a big difference between expecting adults- especially grown men- to act like adults/grown men, and calling into question another's Blackness because there is disagreement and/or a next Black Man/Woman's thoughts/opinions are not identical, or dam near identical, to your own...
btw, I don't have to "play Mama"...my youths are all grown men...and I apparently did a better job than your mumma did because they do know how to address others with some form of manners....you're just UNnecessarily rude...as I said before...it's sad and dismaying that it was that 'WHITE' MAN on these forums the other day that shows a Black Woman more respect than her Kings/Brothas round 'ere....which says nuff bout YOU as a Black Man- since you love chat bout ones' Blackness or lack thereof so much....as I've said before....save that unwarranted fukry you hand out to the Sistas for the Beckys round here that have no sense! If you can't do that well then...betta yuh use yuh mout fe guh labbajuice yuh gyal...
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mi ah beg yuh fe hexcuse mi language towards the yankee dem ina this and a couple odda threads ....mi nuh like fe cuss fuss and gwansuh dem ways deh fe true... ..but true when smaddy flex like pus*yhole and brite up demSelf fe noting...wha fe duh....
btw, Brada...yuh noh memba alla di informative threads dem mi didah post up early dis year when mi first come pon dis ya site- before me left....OH!
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quote:Originally posted by Mike111: ^Same person who appointed you mouthpiece of What: Manners, niceness, whatever you think it is.
BTW - where is all of that historical info. that you previously claimed to have researched. So far all I have seen is these pop-in chidings. If you want to play Mama, have children.
There is a big difference between expecting adults- especially grown men- to act like adults/grown men, and calling into question another's Blackness because there is disagreement and/or a next Black Man/Woman's thoughts/opinions are not identical, or dam near identical, to your own...
btw, I don't have to "play Mama"...my youths are all grown men...and I apparently did a better job than your mumma did because they do know how to address others with some form of manners....you're just UNnecessarily rude...as I said before...it's sad and dismaying that it was that 'WHITE' MAN on these forums the other day that shows a Black Woman more respect than her Kings/Brothas round 'ere....which says nuff bout YOU as a Black Man- since you love chat bout ones' Blackness or lack thereof so much....as I've said before....save that unwarranted fukry you hand out to the Sistas for the Beckys round here that have no sense! If you can't do that well then...betta yuh use yuh mout fe guh labbajuice yuh gyal...
htp
Yes!! YESSS!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA Im glad you see too the mental state of the Afronazi, Im glad you too see just how the people operate when you disagree them, the same people who you uphold...HAHAHAHAHAHA
and to think a white man(King, Markellion) treat you with more respect than a black man...
Welcome to the true side of Afronazi Afrocentrism...HAHAHAHA
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quote:Originally posted by Mike111: ^Same person who appointed you mouthpiece of What: Manners, niceness, whatever you think it is.
BTW - where is all of that historical info. that you previously claimed to have researched. So far all I have seen is these pop-in chidings. If you want to play Mama, have children.
There is a big difference between expecting adults- especially grown men- to act like adults/grown men, and calling into question another's Blackness because there is disagreement and/or a next Black Man/Woman's thoughts/opinions are not identical, or dam near identical, to your own...
btw, I don't have to "play Mama"...my youths are all grown men...and I apparently did a better job than your mumma did because they do know how to address others with some form of manners....you're just UNnecessarily rude...as I said before...it's sad and dismaying that it was that 'WHITE' MAN on these forums the other day that shows a Black Woman more respect than her Kings/Brothas round 'ere....which says nuff bout YOU as a Black Man- since you love chat bout ones' Blackness or lack thereof so much....as I've said before....save that unwarranted fukry you hand out to the Sistas for the Beckys round here that have no sense! If you can't do that well then...betta yuh use yuh mout fe guh labbajuice yuh gyal...
htp
Yes!! YESSS!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA Im glad you see too the mental state of the Afronazi, Im glad you too see just how the people operate when you disagree them, the same people who you uphold...HAHAHAHAHAHA
and to think a white man(King, Markellion) treat you with more respect than a black man...
Welcome to the true side of Afronazi Afrocentrism...HAHAHAHA
1) Nothing new to me...the IMMATURE fukry and LACK OF reasoning skills and LACK of manners is why I left earlier this year even though it was not directed at me more time....it jus sick mi belly to see grown ass people acting like school yard children... 2) you have NO idea of who I uphold versus who I do not....I uphold Truth- and as I said, like Nature it knows no color line....so move! and 3) you've been told bout your ASSUmptions before you know....I was referring to ONE person- and that person was the one calling himsSelf "INSERTNAMEHERE".....so move!
@ the next one calling himSelf Mike111-
pig-latin? but ah wha dis? lol...Black Man if I laugh I dead...I may speak the language of my HOME HERITAGE PEOPLE whenever I so choose and to whom I choose...and I dam sure don't have to work at it...lol....
Furthermore....how are YOU, a BLACK MAN, gonna be bawlin out alla this Afrocentric this and that and the 'white' man evil this and that and rae tae tae.....and.... you can't even show YOUR BLACK EMPRESSES/QUEENS/WOMEN some simple respect.....so TYPICAL of SO MANY Black men these days....sad/disgusted to see you're one of them...BUT I LOVE MY BLACK KINGS/MEN anyway...ones like you can't run me away into the arms of pale-skinned frownsy 'white' men UNlike some sistas... no sah....so move! jancrow.... You give jus what the 'white' man want....Black Man vs. Black Woman...they don't want to see BLACK UNITY....
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quote:Originally posted by Mike111: TruthAndRights - Take a look at what I was doing while you were working on perfecting your pig-Latin.
What you need to do is "Produce" something.
Show your right! He/She must mistakenly believe that crap somehow looks/sounds cool. Instead, it really amplifies the LACK of any real or significant contribution anywhere on the site. I hates these white boys coming on here pretending to be black. They realize we can quickly see through their BS, so nor they trying to hide behind Haiti and Island masks. Fools!
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quote:You just throwing up her reconstruction leaves the un-suspecting that the Ivory Bangled lady was an original Brit..regardless of what an original Brit may have looked like.
Now had you taken the time to double check instead of slinging non sense about melanin content of ones skin we could have move past this with the necessary corrections.
And yes I am saying that the Ivory Bangled Lady came directly from Africa as The scientific analysis of isotopes from the teeth revealed that water she drank during her childhood had contained minerals likely to have been found in North Africa Mike people can do mineral analysis to determine where in the world a particular mineral hails from it is used in other areas out side bio-anthropology ask any geologist.
But you went further than that Mike for on your site you have this
Accurate Mock-up Bust of Wetwang lady by the University of Reading. http://realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancient/Etruria_the_Etruscans_celts.htm Which you rejected^ based on the morphological make up on the reconstructed image and inserted the Ivory Bangled lady because it was the right morphological fit to make your case Now you had to have known that those were two separate reports because you !! posted artifacts from both and conflate the two making them non distinct.
Melanin King get beyond mindless cheer-leading and ad hominem please.
TruthAndRights mi memba wen wi jump all ova dat fool fool bwaay pon di Moorish tread and mi book mark some a yu a posting like Albert Churchward. But nuh pay dem too much mind yaa, just do weh yu a do. Respect.
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^ Nothing I do is mindless, but I'm certain you and I are not the same. In fact, there are hundreds of your mindless posts those of us with conscious can point to where you are so busy defending whites/Asians but NEVER questioning them on the millions of inaccuracies or out right LIES they propagate. This is a perfect example of Negroes attempting to correct blacks who create, even though these "correcting" Negroes have created nothing of their own. You and that ignorant ramblings TruthNRights remind me of the Island blacks who leave the backdoor open for the white man because you have never created anything on your own. Even that pig-latin you mumbling as if it's a language is something created for you. I could go back and speak like a 1800s slave (AmosAndAndy) if I wanted also. I see no need for it though since black Americans have progressed from that nonsense.
Instead of Attempting to weakly attack Mike or Dr. Winters, why don't you instead try to create your own research or website. LOL, fools be fools no matter what color.
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Brada-Anansi - That site is of no consequence. The fact is that I did mixed-up the pictures, and when you pointed THAT out to me, I corrected it, and thanked you for the heads-up.
But that is NOT what you are talking about, if it were, a simple word would have sufficed. And I am just smart enough to know that one does not use that tone and technique when one is trying to be helpful. There are no fools here, like T&R, you need to take that simple sh1t somewhere else.
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Yes MelaninKing it is mindless cheer-leading for if you ever go over some of the exchanges we have had between Mike, Dr.Winters, Jeri and others we dis-agree in some instances and reach the same conclusion on others sometimes the disagreements may boil down to language for example I would say Black Asians are Blacks but non Africans others will say based on looks they are Africans,and we hash things out to find who is closer.
And speaking for myself I rarely attack someone personally unless provoked or just having a friendly back and forth.
There is no pig in our speech and we are not Hispanic so there are no Latin in how we converse our dialect is African at it's accent with English as it's base but with a generous amount of African words(mainly Akan) peppered through-out in which we are very proud.
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Mike I did not go any further in my original post as a matter o facts I am not making any argument against the possibility of very ancient European blacks we have reports of them from very early times after-all
You just throwing up her reconstruction leaves the un-suspecting that the Ivory Bangled lady was an original Brit..regardless of what an original Brit may have looked like. That was it!!
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quote:Originally posted by Brada-Anansi: Yes MelaninKing it is mindless cheer-leading for if you ever go over some of the exchanges we have had between Mike, Dr.Winters, Jeri and others we dis-agree in some instances and reach the same conclusion on others sometimes the disagreements may boil down to language for example I would say Black Asians are Blacks but non Africans others will say based on looks they are Africans,and we hash things out to find who is closer.
And speaking for myself I rarely attack someone personally unless provoked or just having a friendly back and forth.
There is no pig in our speech and we are not Hispanic so there are no Latin in how we converse our dialect is African at it's accent with English as it's base but with a generous amount of African words(mainly Akan) peppered through-out in which we are very proud.
Brada you a cool dude, we have had our debates but honestly you are dealing with mentally defuncts here. Notice how this corner store moor has the NERVE to talk about you and your Jamaican creole when this black Alladin follows a doctine ripped off the teaching of Madam Blavoski a White Jewess..LOL. Don't let these freaks play the blacker than thou game because I have yet to see one Moor go back to their homeland in Morocco. Good work pointing our Mike111's lies and fabrications...
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